Fantasia on Blu-Ray!

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I have never seen it, and the wife collects disney movies.

So we all sat down the kids ect with popcorn and started watching it... Oh My God, I wanted to blow my brains out, and the kids were acting like I was showing them a horror movie... Turn it off dad turn it off!!

It was so boring, I thought it was a movie with micky mouse and him being a wizard. But no its just some guy that has a very annoying dull voice talking about music and how it works on the cartoons.

Also the whole film is on 4:3 with black lines down the side, but that didnt bother me as much as this classic that should have stayed in the walt disney classic vault and someone should have thown away the key.

Oh also for a blu-ray the video was terrible as well

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Oh really?? I was just about to start spending my Christmas pressie money on this! I had expected the Blu-Ray to be re-mastered and wonderful. Should I just re-watch the VHS then?
 
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Like I said never seen it before

I guess if you like classical music then you will like this, but the transfer from what I seen of other disney movies, this is garbage
 

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I clearly remember my mother taking me to see Fantasia in the early 50's, when I was about 7 or 8. I vividly remember that at that time I thought it was the most magical thing I'd ever seen or heard. I still remember it with great fondness, as I think it was possibly that film that first introduced me to classical music.
 

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Some people don't deserve to own a TV...

It's 4:3 because most films were in those days and the Mickey bit (The Sorcerer's Apprentice) is just one small vignette. The "guy talking about music in cartoons" is also just one small part but I guess you'll never discover that.

I'd stick to the Michael Bay films if I were you, no attention span required.
 

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So, the_lhc; should I spend out on this, do you think? I consider it a masterpiece but as I said, I already own it on VHS. Or maybe buy the DVD on ebay now the re-issue has forced the (previously ridiculous) price down?
 

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the_lhc:Some people don't deserve to own a TV...

It's 4:3 because most films were in those days and the Mickey bit (The Sorcerer's Apprentice) is just one small vignette. The "guy talking about music in cartoons" is also just one small part but I guess you'll never discover that.

I'd stick to the Michael Bay films if I were you, no attention span required.

I agree with you more than I can possibly express here. (Without recourse to language that would get me banned!)
 

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Petherick:So, the_lhc; should I spend out on this, do you think? I consider it a masterpiece but as I said, I already own it on VHS. Or maybe buy the DVD on ebay now the re-issue has forced the (previously ridiculous) price down?

I couldn't comment, I haven't seen the Blu-ray to judge the quality I'm afraid.
 

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the_lhc:Some people don't deserve to own a TV...

It's 4:3 because most films were in those days and the Mickey bit (The Sorcerer's Apprentice) is just one small vignette. The "guy talking about music in cartoons" is also just one small part but I guess you'll never discover that.

I'd stick to the Michael Bay films if I were you, no attention span required.

I agree with you more than I can possibly express here. (Without recourse to language that would get me banned!)

Yes, I had to re-write it a couple of times...
 

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Considering its age it's a brilliant piece of animation. Drawing the animation to match the music rather than making a soundtrack to fit the picture was groundbreaking. The picture imo is very good considering the source is 70 years old, Disney have not as far as I can see applied any artificial effects (dnr etc) to it but just done a restoration which is as it should be. Soundtrack is excellent, again considering they are using the original.

As the-lhc has pointed out the picture is 4:3 because thats the original aspect ratio it was done in.

It really is something that needs to be watched properly to be appreciated.
 
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Maybe I was just dissapointed that I spent 20.00 on it, and its not even a movie, its just classical music.

Oh well, I guess I have offended most on here, but I got to say, to watch this for the first time, compaired to EVERY disney moive I have seen, I think it was a huge let down.

Also they could have converted it to full screen or 16:9, they have with all other disney blu-ray releases.
 

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canada16:Also they could have converted it to full screen or 16:9, they have with all other disney blu-ray releases.

Ok, I get it now.

This must be a deliberate 'wind-up'.
 

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chebby:

canada16:Also they could have converted it to full screen or 16:9, they have with all other disney blu-ray releases.

Ok, I get it now.

This must be a deliberate 'wind-up'.

Snow White is done in 4:3 as well so best not get that one

But hey you can always stick the free dvd in that came with the bd. Full screen I think.
 

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I find fantasia interesting from a history of animation point of view but thats all. Never rated it as a piece of entertiainment when i was a child in the 70s and still don't.
 

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strapped for cash:Hmm, a few examples of horrible, po-faced snobbery on this thread...

Apart from wanting to blow his own brains out, the OP expressed a wish that Disney lock away 'Fantasia' in a vault and throw away the key. That is an explicitly expressed wish that he could deny 'Fantasia' to anyone who might enjoy it...

canada16:...the whole film is on 4:3 with black lines down the side, but that didnt bother me as much as this classic that should have stayed in the walt disney classic vault and someone should have thown away the key.

Such a desire to control other people's access to movies (rather than just criticise them) makes me wonder who the 'snob' really is.
 

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canada16:
I have never seen it, and the wife collects disney movies.

So we all sat down the kids ect with popcorn and started watching it... Oh My God, I wanted to blow my brains out, and the kids were acting like I was showing them a horror movie... Turn it off dad turn it off!!

It was so boring, I thought it was a movie with micky mouse and him being a wizard. But no its just some guy that has a very annoying dull voice talking about music and how it works on the cartoons.

Also the whole film is on 4:3 with black lines down the side, but that didnt bother me as much as this classic that should have stayed in the walt disney classic vault and someone should have thown away the key.

Oh also for a blu-ray the video was terrible as well

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I have this on Bluray and the kids love it like I did when I was little. Watching The Sorcerer's Apprentice in 16:9 would be like watching It's A Wonderful Life in colour (yes, that version is just wrong). As has been mentioned, you really need to watch the whole film or skip parts that don't interest you.

And the video being of terrible quality - I doubt that a vast amount of money was spent on the original film and therefore, miracles are not possible. You can't turn a grainy picture into a Pixar style image - and in any case, after seeing the original, it would spoil the whole essence of the film.
 

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canada16:

Oh well, I guess I have offended most on here,

Not offended at all. You expressed an opinion, as did I.

We're all entitled to our own opinions, you think your right as much as I think I'm right.

But still just opinions.
 

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Fantasia is a bit like Marmite. I really like it (Rite of Spring, what's not to like?) but I have come across canada16's opinion a lot. People are expecting Bambi and it comes as a bit of a shock.
 

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strapped for cash:Hmm, a few examples of horrible, po-faced snobbery on this thread...

Apart from wanting to blow his own brains out, the OP expressed a wish that Disney lock away 'Fantasia' in a vault and throw away the key. That is an explicitly expressed wish that he could deny 'Fantasia' to anyone who might enjoy it...

canada16:...the whole film is on 4:3 with black lines down the side, but that didnt bother me as much as this classic that should have stayed in the walt disney classic vault and someone should have thown away the key.

Such a desire to control other people's access to movies (rather than just criticise them) makes me wonder who the 'snob' really is.

I didn't cite any specific posts as examples of snobbery, Chebby, though you deduced I was commenting on your contributions to this thread, rather than the contributions of others (an example of hubris, perchance?).
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I'm not looking to ruffle anybody's feathers (so to speak), but it always intrigues me how certain systems of aesthetic judgement are privileged within particular communities (like this one); meaning those failing to conform to conventions are summarily chastised...
 
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canada16.

You are far from alone. While I can appreciate the artistry and technical ability it took to make, I dont find it particularly great to watch. But I'm not a huge classical music fan.

If a modern version was done but with a soundtrack by someone like Air or Daft Punk, (have you heard the Tron soundtrack?), I would probably like it alot more.

That would be seen, probably rightly so, as sacrilege mind you. I'd love to see it though. I might have a bash myself!
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chebby:
strapped for cash:Hmm, a few examples of horrible, po-faced snobbery on this thread...

Apart from wanting to blow his own brains out, the OP expressed a wish that Disney lock away 'Fantasia' in a vault and throw away the key. That is an explicitly expressed wish that he could deny 'Fantasia' to anyone who might enjoy it...

canada16:...the whole film is on 4:3 with black lines down the side, but that didnt bother me as much as this classic that should have stayed in the walt disney classic vault and someone should have thown away the key.

Such a desire to control other people's access to movies (rather than just criticise them) makes me wonder who the 'snob' really is.

That isn't really what annoyed me, it was a) Complaining that a SEVENTY year old film hasn't been filmed in the latest aspect ratio, which is a bit like complaining that Snow White wasn't CGI animated and b) that, because the OP didn't bother to find out what the film is actually about (just reading the basic description on the box or whatever webpage it was listed on would have told you enough), that that somehow makes the film rubbish because it wasn't what he was expecting, an expectation based on almost zero knowledge of the actual content of the film, which is a bit like buying Brokeback Mountain without knowing what it's about and then complaining that you didn't know it was about cowboys...

But really it's just the irritation caused by someone shelling out 20 quid for something they know nothing about, without doing a scrap of basic research and then trying to blame everyone else but themselves because they've wasted their money, take some responsibility for your actions, it's your fault, stop griping, take it like a man and then send it back and get a refund, like anyone else would.
 
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Letme try explain myself again...LOL

Ok maybe I was a bit harsh when I said I wanted to blow my brains out and walt disney should have thrown this in the vault.

Yes I agree it must have been great back in the day, if this film is 70 years old.

I am only trying to provide a prospective on the film, from someone that is 33 and never seen it, and a 5 year a 32 year old and a 3 year old.

We all sat down and started watching it, and the kids first started saying turn it off im bored, I gave it a chance so continured to watch and it never got any better, some guy with a mundane dull voice saying about the music, and some cartoons dancing to the music.

All I am saying is I thought it was a movie, and I feel from ALL of disney's films I just dont know why they released this as a full lenght movie..

Sorry to offend the people that seen this movie when they were kids, I am sure back in the day when it was in the cinema it was great.

I am a huge fan of the classics, I love Its a wonderful life and I agree colour ruins it.

Anyway, does anyone know if I buy a 100.00 and a 10.00 HDMI would it make a difference? .............. What were we talking about again?
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You're not making things any better, basically what you're saying is (again), despite 70 years (released in 1940, you do the maths) of critical acclaim, despite being hailed as one of the landmarks of animation, despite being the first film to feature multi-channel sound, despite showing the world that animation doesn't just have to be for kids (even back then Mickey Mouse was waning in popularity, he's never been a strong enough character to sustain an entire feature film) because YOU don't like it, the film should never have been released. Now that is the height of arrogance, not to mention ignorance. I'm only 36 and I know about this film so your age is no excuse.

Incidentally Disney had thought about filming Fantasia in widescreen and also doing some parts in 3-D but with a production cost of well over $2million it didn't happen.
 

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canada16:Sorry to offend the people that seen this movie when they were kids, I am sure back in the day when it was in the cinema it was great.

I first saw Fantasia in it's entirety (rather than excerpts) in 2000. Our kids - who would have been 15 and 8 - both loved it and still do. We are able (like most people are) to make the necessary adjustments to things like it's age, and the screen format, just as we are able to appreciate an old black and white film, or something like an old Tom & Jerry cartoon, without wanting to blow our brains out or needing to scream for a parent to take away the 'horror' of exposure to a bit of classical music!
 

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