Fantasia on Blu-Ray!

[Petherick]

Ha, ha, nice recovery! Seriously, mate, though I described it as a classic, I can understand if you were a little dissapointed as it's not 'standard' Disney stuff, is it? And your opinion is as valid as everyone else's. Still can't decide whether to buy it though, maybe I'll think about this one a little longer!

 

[bigboss]

canada16:
Also they could have converted it to full screen or 16:9, they have with all other disney blu-ray releases.

The whole purpose of restoration is not to damage the picture in the process. Converting a 4:3 picture to 16:9 aspect will only distort it. Check out the Friends series & compare it on HD & non-HD channels for example. Otherwise, buy a DVD which will convert the picture to 16:9.

 

[laserman16]

canada16:

and some cartoons dancing to the music.

They actually tell a story, but you've got to sit down and watch it .

Imo its not really something for a 3 year old to watch , I think "night on bald mountain " might be a bit to much.

 

[cram]

the_lhc:You're not making things any better, basically what you're saying is (again), despite 70 years (released in 1940, you do the maths) of critical acclaim, despite being hailed as one of the landmarks of animation, despite being the first film to feature multi-channel sound, despite showing the world that animation doesn't just have to be for kids (even back then Mickey Mouse was waning in popularity, he's never been a strong enough character to sustain an entire feature film) because YOU don't like it, the film should never have been released. Now that is the height of arrogance, not to mention ignorance. I'm only 36 and I know about this film so your age is no excuse. Incidentally Disney had thought about filming Fantasia in widescreen and also doing some parts in 3-D but with a production cost of well over $2million it didn't happen.

ihc - If he doesn't like the film, then he doesn't like it. He's not alone in his view. The fact that it was the first to have multi-chanel sound etc. doesn't in itself make it a good film. He's already admitted his comments were a bit of an exaggeration but still you go on calling him arrogant and ignorant, makes for a lovely forum.

 

[Clare Newsome]

Stop squabbling, the lot of you

Anyway, counter-culture history would tell you that Fantasia is for stoners, anyhow

 

[The_Lhc]

laserman16:canada16:

and some cartoons dancing to the music.

They actually tell a story, but you've got to sit down and watch it .

Imo its not really something for a 3 year old to watch , I think "night on bald mountain " might be a bit to much.

I can't think of too many feature length films that many 3 year olds would sit through without getting bored. Not many 5 year olds either come to think of it.

 

[Clare Newsome]

Or indeed 15-year olds (without having to check Facebook/IM/texts every two minutes).

My stepson really wanted to see Inception - we said only if the laptop and phone were shut in the other room before we began to watch.

If I want people fidgeting/chatting etc while they watch a movie, I can go to the cinema

 

[chebby]

I remember when our eldest was about 5 or 6 years-old she loved to sit through old WW2 films - like Dambusters and 633 Squadron - with my camera tripod (operating the pan lever as if she were flying the planes) and wearing my old Sennheiser HD-414s. (My present set of Grado SR60i headphones would have been more authentic looking.)

 

[The_Lhc]

cram:
the_lhc:You're not making things any better, basically what you're saying is (again), despite 70 years (released in 1940, you do the maths) of critical acclaim, despite being hailed as one of the landmarks of animation, despite being the first film to feature multi-channel sound, despite showing the world that animation doesn't just have to be for kids (even back then Mickey Mouse was waning in popularity, he's never been a strong enough character to sustain an entire feature film) because YOU don't like it, the film should never have been released. Now that is the height of arrogance, not to mention ignorance. I'm only 36 and I know about this film so your age is no excuse. Incidentally Disney had thought about filming Fantasia in widescreen and also doing some parts in 3-D but with a production cost of well over $2million it didn't happen.

ihc - If he doesn't like the film, then he doesn't like it. He's not alone in his view.

I suspect he's alone in not liking it simply because a) it's old and b) it isn't about what he thought it was about, neither of which is actually a legitimate reason for not liking a film.
Although having said that a colleague's girlfriend won't watch any film older than she is. She's 26. I'd suggest that isn't a philosophy anyone should aspire to however.

The fact that it was the first to have multi-chanel sound etc. doesn't in itself make it a good film.

Yes, because that's the only thing that makes it a classic. It's a landmark in animation, showing that it's not just for kids, it's arguably created the music video 40 years before pop music did it but it does require a little thought.

He's already admitted his comments were a bit of an exaggeration

And then repeated them anyway!

but still you go on calling him arrogant and ignorant, makes for a lovely forum.

The truth hurts sometimes. He twice called for the film not to be released simply because he doesn't like it, in what way is that not arrogance? Sounds like the dictionary definition to me but hey, if that makes me the bad guy, I'll live with it.

 

[cram]

ihc - Don't think he actually ever said anything along the lines of old films are not worth watching.

 

[f1only]

Before i buy any film I rent first, or see it at the cinema. Fantasia has been on TV though.

So my question is this: Why buy a film on any format, then complain about it without watching it previously?

 

[cram]

I think the Op said his wife collects disney films.

I would certainly purchase films without having seen them before. If the film looked like it would interest me or was recommended by a source that I trusted then I would certainly purchase it unseen. Sometimes you end up with stuff you don't like - you take your chances etc. I certainly wouldn't deliberately rent a film that I thought I may want to purchase - that just drives the purchase price up.

 

[The_Lhc]

cram:
ihc - Don't think he actually ever said anything along the lines of old films are not worth watching.

He complained the film was in 4:3 ratio, when that was the ratio it was filmed in, as were the majority of films at the time.

 

[cram]

And from that you extrapolated that he dislikes all old films. Well done!

 

[f1only]

cram:

I think the Op said his wife collects disney films.

I would certainly purchase films without having seen them before. If the film looked like it would interest me or was recommended by a source that I trusted then I would certainly purchase it unseen. Sometimes you end up with stuff you don't like - you take your chances etc. I certainly wouldn't deliberately rent a film that I thought I may want to purchase - that just drives the purchase price up.

Well thats entirely up to you of course. For me i prefer to audition 1st before i buy whether its films, music, or equipment, especially as tastes vary, life would be so boring if they didnt.

 

[The_Lhc]

cram:
I think the Op said his wife collects disney films.

I would certainly purchase films without having seen them before.

Yes, so would I but I wouldn't buy one (especially not at 20 quid!) that I knew absolutely nothing about. If I was a parent I daresay I also wouldn't put a film on in front of small children I hadn't checked out first but that's a different argument.

If the film looked like it would interest me or was recommended by a source that I trusted then I would certainly purchase it unseen. Sometimes you end up with stuff you don't like - you take your chances etc. I certainly wouldn't deliberately rent a film that I thought I may want to purchase - that just drives the purchase price up.

One good thing from this thread, I think I'll go and buy Fantasia now! Especially as, good news for some, the 2010 blu-ray release will be deleted in March 2011...

 

[The_Lhc]

cram:And from that you extrapolated that he dislikes all old films. Well done!

No I didn't. He dislikes the ratio that the film (this film, this ONE film, yes?) has been released in, which is a direct function of the film's age. Ergo, he doesn't like THIS film, partly because of its age.

Is that clear enough?

 

[Anonymous]

the_lhc You act like your the one that made it, I did say sorry about wanting to blow my brains out.
And yes I love old movies, I love its a wonderful life, and back to the future

I would like to put a close to this as I dont like people calling me arrogant ect.. Just because I state I dont like Fantasia and it bored me to death.

I thought it was a movie, it wasnt, I was dissapointed...... END OF

Sorry about the bold up the top, couldnt get rid of it.

 

[cram]

the_lhc: If I was a parent I daresay I also wouldn't put a film on in front of small children I hadn't checked out first but that's a different argument.

Are you now trying to imply he's a bad parent for putting on a U rated film?

 

[Deleted member 2457]

canada16:
the_lhc You act like your the one that made it, I did say sorry about wanting to blow my brains out.

And yes I love old movies, I love its a wonderful life, and back to the future

I would like to put a close to this as I dont like people calling me arrogant ect.. Just because I state I dont like Fantasia and it bored me to death.

I thought it was a movie, it wasnt, I was dissapointed...... END OF

Sorry about the bold up the top, couldnt get rid of it.

Much better bold anyway

 

[Anonymous]

cram:
the_lhc: If I was a parent I daresay I also wouldn't put a film on in front of small children I hadn't checked out first but that's a different argument.

Are you now trying to imply he's a bad parent for putting on a U rated film?

Oh no maybe I should check out dora now, thats U rating and I might be a bad parent.. LOL

 

[The_Lhc]

canada16:the_lhc You act like your the one that made it, I did say sorry about wanting to blow my brains out.

I'm not worried about that bit (don't, obviously, it's not that important...), it's the locking the film away bit that grates.

And yes I love old movies, I love its a wonderful life,

But that's 4:3 isn't it?

I thought it was a movie, it wasnt,

I don't even understand that comment. It's not a "story", sure but of course it's a movie.

Sorry about the bold up the top, couldnt get rid of it.

Remove the "h4" tags, it's a height modifier, not a bold one.

 

[The_Lhc]

cram:
the_lhc: If I was a parent I daresay I also wouldn't put a film on in front of small children I hadn't checked out first but that's a different argument.

Are you now trying to imply he's a bad parent for putting on a U rated film?

Warning, Fantasia contains scenes of nudity (female topless centaurs, caused a big hoohaa when it was first released).

 

[Clare Newsome]

OK, I asked for the squabbling to stop, but it hasn't. Locksville....