Expecting too much ?

[vonchief]

After reading the latest Big Question im a little surprised.

With a £4500 TV, £2000 Amp and three 5 star Blu-ray players ranging from£150- £900 the performance seems a bit rubbish.

System one described as 'virtually unwatchable'

System two was juddering & system three had picture blocking on par with system two.

It was said 'there were juddering issues with the picture on all of them'

Is this normal ?

How much would you need to spend to get an acceptable performance on Blu-ray ?

My old DVD player has none of these issues.

Would a better HDMI cable help

 

[kinda]

I suppose it's all perception, but ibn terms of RRP I have a £350 BluRay player, a £550 receiver, a £1500 projector, and the picture is cracking. It's only unacceptabke if the cinema is unacceptable, as it's on a par or maybe better.

It's all subjective but I think people get caught up in looking out for certain picture problems and then focus on them.

 

[DandyCobalt]

Just got my copy of the mag, and as I was one of the vbolunteers, hopefully I can add a bit more to what eventually was included in the mag. Too much was said for just two pages.

As I also own a Sony BDPS570 and a Cambridge Audio BD751, perhaps I can add some perspective.

With such a big television (65" I think) it will ruthlessly expose any image/video differences between the players, just as a HD Projector would.

In the same way, the excellent KEF surround system that was used should (and did) demonstrate differences in the audio processing of the blu-ray players.

However, a much smaller television, or a more humble surround sound system, will probably bring all three players much closer together.ie. perhaps don't bother with a much more expensive blu-ray player, unless you want to upgrade the rest of your system in the future.

My Sony BDPS570 is great with my 28" Sony Bravia tv for the kids and soaps, and my CA BD751 (similar, but not identical to OPPO 95 in the test) is fabulous through an HD projector and B&W surround system.

Horses for courses, but bigger screens and sound systems willl reveal the differences that might not be obvious on smaller systems.

 

[Sliced Bread]

Just got my copy of the mag, and as I was one of the vbolunteers...

I thought that was you from the system description :clap:

 

[Big Chris]

I thought that was him from the username.

 

[vonchief]

With such a big television (65" I think) it will ruthlessly expose any image/video differences between the players, just as a HD Projector would.

In the review for the TV used for this, it says, ' Fast-moving objects are tracked fairly securely'

No mention of juddering, so which Blu-ray player was used for this ? Why wasn't this player used in the Big Question ?

Why make such large TV's if even a £900 player does not give a picture without motion problems,or is this why it only got 4 stars ?

However, a much smaller television, or a more humble surround sound system, will probably bring all three players much closer together.ie. perhaps don't bother with a much more expensive blu-ray player, unless you want to upgrade the rest of your system in the future.

Does this mean all Blu-ray players have this poor motion and it shows up more the lager the TV ?

Horses for courses, but bigger screens and sound systems willl reveal the differences that might not be obvious on smaller systems.

I appreciate the larger screen will show up more defects,

A Blu-ray test on more standard sized TV's would be more informative,say 32"-42" . Is it worth paying more for a player with a TV of this size and at what TV size does this motion problem become unacceptable ?

I would like to know if it is the screen or players that cause the juddering.

 

[moonfly]

I thought that was him from the username.

And dont we have to read past the bit where he says he was in there first anyway, to get to the kit list in his sig

 

[DandyCobalt]

I thought that was him from the username.

I should have worn a hat as disguise