Just looking at my options with future upgrades - learnt that I can't but still worth getting people's thoughts. Thanks.spiny norman said:
At the end of the day its what each individual is happy with that is all that matters - so if your happy fair play
I have heard £100k+ Steinway system blast out movies to a standard that once you hear that quality it shows you the reality of where a system is to where a movie sound tracks can actually go - and the difference between the playback can be vast. By this I mean it can get vastly better than what people think is good on average.
Stepping back into reality
I heard a Kef CI Install series system atmos system recently with Marantz Processor and Power amps - only very briefly but it was excellent and again that showed the level that is attainable with a big step down from Steinway level pricing but still how high the bar goes.
Then down again a recent demo of Arendal speakers and subs a 5.2 setup with average priced electronics and amps etc, no money spent on cabling at all was still a really good demo.
One thing all these systems had in common was the setup of them was done properly with attention to speaker placement.
I have heard £100k+ Steinway system blast out movies to a standard that once you hear that quality it shows you the reality of where a system is to where a movie sound tracks can actually go - and the difference between the playback can be vast. By this I mean it can get vastly better than what people think is good on average.
Stepping back into reality
I heard a Kef CI Install series system atmos system recently with Marantz Processor and Power amps - only very briefly but it was excellent and again that showed the level that is attainable with a big step down from Steinway level pricing but still how high the bar goes.
Then down again a recent demo of Arendal speakers and subs a 5.2 setup with average priced electronics and amps etc, no money spent on cabling at all was still a really good demo.
One thing all these systems had in common was the setup of them was done properly with attention to speaker placement.
buzz_lightclick
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gel said:
It's funny how as soon people start suggesting you move your current equipment around to position it better and off your beloved stand - (rather than spending 1000s on new equipment), that you suddenly decide you like it how it is!
buzz_lightclick
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bigboss
Moderator
What are you looking for? If audio improvement, why are you not even considering the helpful advice you've received so far for simple measures to vastly improve sound? Or are you looking to buy just to spend money?
Don't know really, just looking at options and seeing which systems go together. I can't really change my current setup, and any future system would've the same limitations to be fair.bigboss said:
bigboss said:
Have to say that when I get the compulsion to spend some money, I usually find a new album does the job.
Gel why cant you change the current setup - doing so is so easy its not even difficult.
You would have to buy a new stand - and it might have to be a custom size so you wont be able to return it the next day but it wont be difficult to do.
Tape measure - make a plan - buy the correct bits only for the plan - set back up again - see how things sound now
Analyse the strength and weakness of the current system then make improvements.
Its easy and it guarantees a tangible improvement,
EDIT - reason for putting the screen central and speaker either side is so that the soundstage can fill the room and beyond, not just be in half of the room with one side sounding different to the other as its so close to a wall.
It will put you right in the middle of the stage and I think those speakers would be ok, if not limited in bass output so looking at the bass would likely improve the overall sound more than changing the speaker - bearing in mind you look like the top floor and tons of deep bass will likely upset your parents so concentraing on 50 - 150hz for tactile and tangible bass and a more full range sound.
Not a bad tactic for anyone
You would have to buy a new stand - and it might have to be a custom size so you wont be able to return it the next day but it wont be difficult to do.
Tape measure - make a plan - buy the correct bits only for the plan - set back up again - see how things sound now
Analyse the strength and weakness of the current system then make improvements.
Its easy and it guarantees a tangible improvement,
EDIT - reason for putting the screen central and speaker either side is so that the soundstage can fill the room and beyond, not just be in half of the room with one side sounding different to the other as its so close to a wall.
It will put you right in the middle of the stage and I think those speakers would be ok, if not limited in bass output so looking at the bass would likely improve the overall sound more than changing the speaker - bearing in mind you look like the top floor and tons of deep bass will likely upset your parents so concentraing on 50 - 150hz for tactile and tangible bass and a more full range sound.
Not a bad tactic for anyone
buzz_lightclick
Well-known member
bigboss said:
Because for Gel it is a lot easier to order more stuff on the Internet with a few clicks than it is to move equipment around and do DIY jobs like wall mounting, cable hiding and room layout changes etc.
Gel with all due respect you say your not working at the moment and it doesn't seem like you have kids taking up precious av setup time like me for example. Trying to get any listening or setup time at the minute with work and family it's just not there for me. So time is not a constraint for you to do a new setup plan and put it into action
However if your not confident taking on the project there are companies that will do it for you. But you will need to be on board with what they will do but that would be an awesome thing to have done as it would be designed for your space.
You have been on the end of a lot of pressure to make changes and if you don't want to its fine.
It's worth bearing in mind as your posting everything on here about the amount of stuff you buy that's no good and then goes back its way beyond normal. So people are keen to try and help you overcome the need to keep doing that - which will never happen as the train keeps coming with new stuff and we will all keep buying it.
But people are actually just trying to help you make an actual positive difference as they see it based on experience some have a lot of it so that it's not a case of returning it as it's no good scenario for you everytime.
What is the point in buying something hearing about 10% of what it can do and then returning it as it's no good.
There is none but that is what will happen if you start just buying boxes we all feel.
However if your not confident taking on the project there are companies that will do it for you. But you will need to be on board with what they will do but that would be an awesome thing to have done as it would be designed for your space.
You have been on the end of a lot of pressure to make changes and if you don't want to its fine.
It's worth bearing in mind as your posting everything on here about the amount of stuff you buy that's no good and then goes back its way beyond normal. So people are keen to try and help you overcome the need to keep doing that - which will never happen as the train keeps coming with new stuff and we will all keep buying it.
But people are actually just trying to help you make an actual positive difference as they see it based on experience some have a lot of it so that it's not a case of returning it as it's no good scenario for you everytime.
What is the point in buying something hearing about 10% of what it can do and then returning it as it's no good.
There is none but that is what will happen if you start just buying boxes we all feel.
ellisdj said:
Unfortunately, most of the pressure on gel to make changes appears to come from within.
I have said about making changes before to my parents but they on not on board. With speaker positioning if I had wall mounted the speakers they would be in the same position now but higher up. What can I do without my constraints? Cheers.ellisdj said:
There is a few problems though, I have had it setup to be where the speakers are now by a professional and I still think it sounds amazing.
bigboss
Moderator
Can you change your room layout as per this diagram? This will mean your TV can stay where it is, yet the speaker position will be much better.
I could possibly do that, but my speakers have been setup to be where they are though?bigboss said:
I used to have it like that in our old house though and I can't tell the difference between the sound?bigboss said:
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