I was an expert with mccac and wrote long guides on here of how to use it.
It's very simple actually and that's all a "pro" would have done. Most pros don't know as much as me.
What won't your parents let you do. Move the bed and take the fire out??
Surely they will allow that. That's about all you need to do.
You might even be able to leave the fire in depending on the clearance of it and still make it work if that is a stopper for them
Other than that it's just a furniture move.
For such an AV enthusiast with a lot of time available you could start to learn these simple processes and develop your own knowledge and skills.
EDIT - It would be a far more constructive way to spend your time than constantly shopping. You would get sound improvement for the best money spent - none because the pro who set your system up doesn't look like he has done it right to me but I have not seen it in the flesh. The speakers look the wrong spot in relation to each other and so is the sub imo
It's very simple actually and that's all a "pro" would have done. Most pros don't know as much as me.
What won't your parents let you do. Move the bed and take the fire out??
Surely they will allow that. That's about all you need to do.
You might even be able to leave the fire in depending on the clearance of it and still make it work if that is a stopper for them
Other than that it's just a furniture move.
For such an AV enthusiast with a lot of time available you could start to learn these simple processes and develop your own knowledge and skills.
EDIT - It would be a far more constructive way to spend your time than constantly shopping. You would get sound improvement for the best money spent - none because the pro who set your system up doesn't look like he has done it right to me but I have not seen it in the flesh. The speakers look the wrong spot in relation to each other and so is the sub imo
One thing to consider which I bet you never have even thought of.
Where you sit now with it open behind you is good in a way for sound but actually poor for bass as it puts you in the middle ish of the room where there is the least bass.
If you moved to be where the bed is you would have a reflective surface behind which is a bit worse for sound but better for bass as you will be on a boundary increasing the bass output.
Pv1 are fast subs but limited in output and extension compared to other subs of half the price so you need to work with the kit to get the best from it.
Plus your speakers will likely not have anywhere near enough output in the critical range of 80 - 200hz range and a sub especially a pv1 would be ideal to do this range.
So you could run dual subs a higher crossover with bass management from dirac with an arcam avr 550 allowing a great setup with some skills
Then putting the speakers in the right spot couple with the above and all of a sudden you have probably x3 the sound quality and cinematicness of your current system.
I should be the doctor here not BB
Where you sit now with it open behind you is good in a way for sound but actually poor for bass as it puts you in the middle ish of the room where there is the least bass.
If you moved to be where the bed is you would have a reflective surface behind which is a bit worse for sound but better for bass as you will be on a boundary increasing the bass output.
Pv1 are fast subs but limited in output and extension compared to other subs of half the price so you need to work with the kit to get the best from it.
Plus your speakers will likely not have anywhere near enough output in the critical range of 80 - 200hz range and a sub especially a pv1 would be ideal to do this range.
So you could run dual subs a higher crossover with bass management from dirac with an arcam avr 550 allowing a great setup with some skills
Then putting the speakers in the right spot couple with the above and all of a sudden you have probably x3 the sound quality and cinematicness of your current system.
I should be the doctor here not BB
bigboss
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A sub is only ever pulled out of the corner to reduce a boom
While it might reduce the boom it's also reducing all the rest and making the bass timing and impact worse.
You don't need to do this with modern eq system so that is mistake number 1 but that pioneer receiver doesn't have any bass management
Nope the 750 doesnt have dirac that is a system not to miss if you can it's so versatile
While it might reduce the boom it's also reducing all the rest and making the bass timing and impact worse.
You don't need to do this with modern eq system so that is mistake number 1 but that pioneer receiver doesn't have any bass management
Nope the 750 doesnt have dirac that is a system not to miss if you can it's so versatile
That's my point sorry dude you don't know at all and could but that waste thousands and be dissapointed because the money spent against what you will end up with.
The Arcam 850 is a sound connoisseurs product because of class g amplification someone like me, who really cares and really cares about stereo performance
Mate that's not you that's why they sell the lesser models which will give up nearly no performance quality to the average guy in a multi channel only situation
If you read up on user opinion a guy recently demod both the 850 and 550 and couldn't tell the difference between them.
So I would say in your room the 550 will be more than enough and save you thousands to be better spent elsewhere
However you would have to do the same demo to tell for yourself if the 850 is 2 thousand better than the 550 to you but I already know the answer
The reason it was suggested with the B&W 800 range is because these are a connuosier product with stereo performance as a number 1 priority. You need the best quality pre amp and power amp stage for these speakers and the 850 is the only single box solution to do them any justice and really it's not enough by a fair margin.
The price of a product does not guarantee it will perform to its price unless you know what your doing and give it the chance to do so.
You won't be doing that even if you change the room around.
It's eyes bigger than belly situation dude and you will end up sending it back
The Arcam 850 is a sound connoisseurs product because of class g amplification someone like me, who really cares and really cares about stereo performance
Mate that's not you that's why they sell the lesser models which will give up nearly no performance quality to the average guy in a multi channel only situation
If you read up on user opinion a guy recently demod both the 850 and 550 and couldn't tell the difference between them.
So I would say in your room the 550 will be more than enough and save you thousands to be better spent elsewhere
However you would have to do the same demo to tell for yourself if the 850 is 2 thousand better than the 550 to you but I already know the answer
The reason it was suggested with the B&W 800 range is because these are a connuosier product with stereo performance as a number 1 priority. You need the best quality pre amp and power amp stage for these speakers and the 850 is the only single box solution to do them any justice and really it's not enough by a fair margin.
The price of a product does not guarantee it will perform to its price unless you know what your doing and give it the chance to do so.
You won't be doing that even if you change the room around.
It's eyes bigger than belly situation dude and you will end up sending it back
Pride of ownership wears off real quick if it's cost yii a fortune and not knocking your socks off - you know this better than anyone.
Cheers mate! I think I am going to give up on this super system, I can't get the products at discounted prices anyway and they are way out of my current budget!ellisdj said:
You don't need super expensive products to have a super sounding cinema system.
Go to Gecko cinema it will be the best cinema experience you have ever seen and heard running off an average av receiver because it setup so well. It will turn you upside in terms of expectation and show you true home cinema.
You will get to hear MK speakers as well
Or come here when I am fully setup it will do the same thing
Bloody samsung predictive text lol
Go to Gecko cinema it will be the best cinema experience you have ever seen and heard running off an average av receiver because it setup so well. It will turn you upside in terms of expectation and show you true home cinema.
You will get to hear MK speakers as well
Or come here when I am fully setup it will do the same thing
Bloody samsung predictive text lol
bigboss
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Gel, it's worth taking ellisdj's suggestions seriously. We know AV is your most favourite hobby. You should go deeper in it and look at learning audio and video calibration. I'm sure it'll be something you'll immensely enjoy. It will also help reduce your spending urges. Who knows, you may even end up being a professional calibrator in the future!!
Learning tv calibration will be brilliant for you to understand why crushed blacks is wrong...... 
bigboss
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buzz_lightclick
Well-known member
I see Gel has placed wanted ads on AV Forums for a Pioneer Susano amp and an LX91 Blu Ray player - he seems to be ignoring all the advice given here.
Of course more money wasted by him if he buys them.
He has owned or at least tried 6 or so blu ray players and never seen any difference in any so to buy a 10 + year old model that is designed mostly for multi channel output ie that is where the bulk of the investment in that player went makes perfect sense in Gel's world.
Then to buy a receiver he doesn't know how to setup so will have to pay someone to come and do it to get hardly any if any benefit also makes sense of course.
He has already had on trial the best blu ray and sent it back the oppo 103 as it made no difference.
He us obviously not 100% with the picture on the LG as it's not calibrated compared to the panny and is trying to fix it by changing blu ray player which will do nothing of course
He has owned or at least tried 6 or so blu ray players and never seen any difference in any so to buy a 10 + year old model that is designed mostly for multi channel output ie that is where the bulk of the investment in that player went makes perfect sense in Gel's world.
Then to buy a receiver he doesn't know how to setup so will have to pay someone to come and do it to get hardly any if any benefit also makes sense of course.
He has already had on trial the best blu ray and sent it back the oppo 103 as it made no difference.
He us obviously not 100% with the picture on the LG as it's not calibrated compared to the panny and is trying to fix it by changing blu ray player which will do nothing of course
I am trying out the 12 bit on the Pioneer 91 with my new TV, and keeping it for DVDs.ellisdj said:
I sold the Oppo 103 because I didn't think it was worth having two Blu Ray players. I bought the 91 before and liked it but didn't like the weight on my stand, now I know it will take it. Cheers.ellisdj said:
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