Do you think4k blu-ray be the last physical media films and TV shows come on?

[DougK1]

Optical media give studio broadcast quality pictures and sound, but sadly, many people will sacrifice a bit of quality to have their content streamed, or via Sky etc. It's more convenient and cheaper. I think this is the reason the optical format will die out fairly soon, even if there are many more titles out there every day. It's the same with SACD and DVD Audio. Many people settle for CD quality and don't want to invest in the hardware and still very expensive discs. I stream music and would do the same if I had a TV. My broadband is quick enough to watch stuff over WIFI and even though it's great quality, streaming always involves some sort of compression and can't compete with a 'fixed' perfect quality film on a 4k disc. The sound quality in particular, on Blu ray discs is incredible, but most people don't want the cost and clutter of a surround system, so much of this quality is never realised. I think 95% of people into TV, videos, film, music etc. don't really care about the quality available with Blu Ray and especially 4k, even though all TVs are now this resolution.

You are right Pod, but until streaming catches up with physical formats for sound and picture quality I will remain a physical media man

 

[usuariodenon3805]

Hola
,responiendo a la pregunta dire que....
El cine en streaming hd,4k se esta abriendo a pasos agigantados.

• Transmisión HD, 4K
• Netflix.
• AppleTV+
• HBO máx.
• Movistar Plus+
• Amazon Prime Vídeo.
• Disney+
• que sera mas rentable..
  Comprar reproductor blueray 4k,
  alquilar en bideoclub pelis 4k ,
  O comprar la peli grabada en disco

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Hello
, answering the question I will say that....
HD 4k streaming cinema is opening up by leaps and bounds.

• Transmission HD,4K
• Netflix.
• AppleTV+
• HBO máx.
• Movistar Plus+
• Amazon Prime Video.
• Disney+
• that we look more profitable.
  Buy blueray player 4k,
  rent in bideoclub 4k movies,
  or buy the movie recorded on disc

In English please, as per forum rules. Thanks!

 

[Jasonovich]

Hola
In answer to the question I will say that...
HD, 4k streaming cinema is opening up in leaps and bounds.

• HD streaming , 4K
• Netflix.
• AppleTV+
• HBO max
• Movistar Plus+
• Amazon Prime Video.
• Disney+
• which will be more profitable..
  Buy 4k blueray player,
  rent 4k movies at bideoclub,
  or buy the movie recorded on disc

Hello
In answer to the question I will say that....
HD, 4k streaming cinema is opening up in leaps and bounds.

• HD streaming , 4K
• Netflix.
• AppleTV+
• HBO max
• Movistar Plus+
• Amazon Prime Video.
• Disney+
• which will be more profitable..
  Buy 4k blueray player,
  rent 4k movies at bideoclub,
  or buy the movie recorded on disc

I agree absolutely, I ditched the BBC TV Tax over a year ago; all my TV viewing is via high quality streaming. No regrets.
Yesterday I watched the movie, Poor Things in 4K, extraordinary film, won some Oscars I believe.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Definitely feel as though the release calendar is filling up. Have Addams Family Values, The Sixth Sense, Terminator and Trainspotting on pre-order, as well as quite a few that I'll watch until prices become closer to what I'm prepared to pay.

 

[davidf]

Definitely feel as though the release calendar is filling up. Have Addams Family Values, The Sixth Sense, Terminator and Trainspotting on pre-order, as well as quite a few that I'll watch until prices become closer to what I'm prepared to pay.

Doesn't seem to be any letting up for new movies on physical, or even older, more obscure films getting the upgrade treatment. Prices are borderline, but I'd rather that than nothing at all. The compact disc is supposedly increasing sales wise, and hopefully this will transfer to movies too.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

I am baffled by the number of times some films get a 'new' 4k release though. Putting it in a posher box does nothing for me, personally.

 

[manicm]

Doesn't seem to be any letting up for new movies on physical, or even older, more obscure films getting the upgrade treatment. Prices are borderline, but I'd rather that than nothing at all. The compact disc is supposedly increasing sales wise, and hopefully this will transfer to movies too.

To get back to the original question though, since 4k sales are hardly at the level of Blu Ray, let alone DVD, I'm dead certain the 4k disc will be the last physical format. The logical thing to do would be official downloads, but of course that will never happen.

 

[Minkey1]

I am baffled by the number of times some films get a 'new' 4k release though. Putting it in a posher box does nothing for me, personally.

If it’s simply an existing 4k title re-released in a new box, or tin, I’d agree.

If it’s a title released on 4k for the first time, I’m paying for the enhanced picture and sound quality, not the box 🤷🏼

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

If it’s a title released on 4k for the first time, I’m paying for the enhanced picture and sound quality, not the box 🤷🏼

No, I mean ones that already have a 4k release but are getting another. Is the sound better than blu ray? (As someone with no height speakers, Atmos doesn't really matter to me. I'd been under the impression that sound quality was otherwise no different.)

 

[manicm]

No, I mean ones that already have a 4k release but are getting another. Is the sound better than blu ray? (As someone with no height speakers, Atmos doesn't really matter to me. I'd been under the impression that sound quality was otherwise no different.)

Sound won't necessarily be better - modern 1080p Blu-ray releases can output Dolby Atmos via bitstream, as does my 13 year old Cambridge player. But the main reason for buying 4K discs is the picture quality, that should be obvious?

Standard Blu-ray discs have a 25gb capacity - more than enough to hold uncompressed multi-channel audio, and video.

 

[davidf]

To get back to the original question though, since 4k sales are hardly at the level of Blu Ray, let alone DVD, I'm dead certain the 4k disc will be the last physical format. The logical thing to do would be official downloads, but of course that will never happen.

I'm sure it will be. I don't feel there's any need to move to 8K, which would need a completely redesigned disc anyway, as lengthy films on current 4K discs use a lower bitrate than the usual 90mins or so, because there's just not enough space - which is a bit of a p***er, as many of the best films are 2.5-4 hours long.

 

[Minkey1]

I'm sure it will be. I don't feel there's any need to move to 8K, which would need a completely redesigned disc anyway, as lengthy films on current 4K discs use a lower bitrate than the usual 90mins or so, because there's just not enough space - which is a bit of a p***er, as many of the best films are 2.5-4 hours long.

Who remembers “turn disc over” or “put Disc 2 in”? Or am I imagining that?

Which “best films” are 2.5 - 4hrs long? I’m an old guy, with a prostate. Two hrs is abt the maximum for me. Last two films I saw in a cinema were Oppenheimer and Golda; each could easily have dropped 30mins in the edit 🤷🏼

 

[davidf]

Who remembers “turn disc over” or “put Disc 2 in”? Or am I imagining that?

Which “best films” are 2.5 - 4hrs long? I’m an old guy, with a prostate. Two hrs is abt the maximum for me. Last two films I saw in a cinema were Oppenheimer and Golda; each could easily have dropped 30mins in the edit 🤷🏼

At home, you can pause it

The longest film I own is Dr. Mabuse which runs at 4 hours 41 mins, but you have Cleopatra (1963) at 4 hours 11 mins, Lawrence Of Arabia, Gone With The Wind, and Once Upon A Time In America both at just under 4 hours, many at around 3 and a half hours like Seven Samurai, Das Boot, Lost Highway, JFK, Doctor Zhivago, The Godfather Part 2, Spartacus. Around the 3 hour mark there's The Green Mile, Magnolia, Betty Blue, Salem's Lot, Kwaidan, The Deer Hunter, Apocalypse Now, The Wolf Of Wall Street, Oppenheimer, Inland Empire, Casino, American Gangster, The Batman, The Godfather, Cinema Paradiso, The Abyss, and Heat. 2 and three quarter hours there's the recent Django and Dune movies, The Hateful Eight, Once Upon A Time In The West, the original Solaris, Saving Private Ryan, IT Chapter Two, Intolerance, Munich, Scarface, The Dark Knight Rises, Blade Runner 2049, No Time To Die, Zodiac, Almost Famous, Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, Anatomy Of A Murder, Bridge Over The River Kwai, There Will Be Blood, Eyes Wide Shut, The Towering Inferno, etc etc.

And that's just running through my collection - there's a lot more out there.

As you can see, whether or not you like some of those movies, longer movies are generally quality movies, and for me, far more worthy of a high quality 4K disc release, but it's these movies that tend to get a lower bitrate in order to get the whole thing on the disc - two-discers don't seem to be a consideration for 4K discs for some reason. This would be the only benefit for 8K discs - they'd have the storage capacity to fit a 3 or 4 hour movie on it at the deserved bit rate.

 

[Minkey1]

……The longest film I own is Dr. Mabuse which runs at 4 hours 41 mins, but you have Cleopatra (1963) at 4 hours 11 mins, Lawrence Of Arabia, Gone With The Wind, and Once Upon A Time In America both at just under 4 hours, many at around 3 and a half hours like Seven Samurai, Das Boot, Lost Highway, JFK, Doctor Zhivago, The Godfather Part 2, Spartacus. Around the 3 hour mark there's The Green Mile, Magnolia, Betty Blue, Salem's Lot, Kwaidan, The Deer Hunter, Apocalypse Now, The Wolf Of Wall Street, Oppenheimer, Inland Empire, Casino, American Gangster, The Batman, The Godfather, Cinema Paradiso, The Abyss, and Heat. 2 and three quarter hours there's the recent Django and Dune movies, The Hateful Eight, Once Upon A Time In The West, the original Solaris, Saving Private Ryan, IT Chapter Two, Intolerance, Munich, Scarface, The Dark Knight Rises, Blade Runner 2049, No Time To Die, Zodiac, Almost Famous, Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, Anatomy Of A Murder, Bridge Over The River Kwai, There Will Be Blood, Eyes Wide Shut, The Towering Inferno, etc etc….

That’s me told then 😂

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Who remembers “turn disc over” or “put Disc 2 in”? Or am I imagining that?

Weren't they known as 'flippers'? Had only the one, which is now on 4k.

 

[DougK1]

At home, you can pause it

The longest film I own is Dr. Mabuse which runs at 4 hours 41 mins, but you have Cleopatra (1963) at 4 hours 11 mins, Lawrence Of Arabia, Gone With The Wind, and Once Upon A Time In America both at just under 4 hours, many at around 3 and a half hours like Seven Samurai, Das Boot, Lost Highway, JFK, Doctor Zhivago, The Godfather Part 2, Spartacus. Around the 3 hour mark there's The Green Mile, Magnolia, Betty Blue, Salem's Lot, Kwaidan, The Deer Hunter, Apocalypse Now, The Wolf Of Wall Street, Oppenheimer, Inland Empire, Casino, American Gangster, The Batman, The Godfather, Cinema Paradiso, The Abyss, and Heat. 2 and three quarter hours there's the recent Django and Dune movies, The Hateful Eight, Once Upon A Time In The West, the original Solaris, Saving Private Ryan, IT Chapter Two, Intolerance, Munich, Scarface, The Dark Knight Rises, Blade Runner 2049, No Time To Die, Zodiac, Almost Famous, Once Upon A Time In Hollywood, Anatomy Of A Murder, Bridge Over The River Kwai, There Will Be Blood, Eyes Wide Shut, The Towering Inferno, etc etc.

And that's just running through my collection - there's a lot more out there.

As you can see, whether or not you like some of those movies, longer movies are generally quality movies, and for me, far more worthy of a high quality 4K disc release, but it's these movies that tend to get a lower bitrate in order to get the whole thing on the disc - two-discers don't seem to be a consideration for 4K discs for some reason. This would be the only benefit for 8K discs - they'd have the storage capacity to fit a 3 or 4 hour movie on it at the deserved bit rate.

Some cracking films there David