Denon 1910 vs 2310 Is the extra £300 worth it ?

[admin_exported]

Ok i have just sold my Denon 1909 so now its time to pick one of the above .

This will be going with my B&W speakers . Is the Denon 2310 worth the extra £300 over 1910 ?

lead me in the righ direction chaps 🙂

 

[Hems]

going by comments made by other ppl and a review on another website it seems like its worth the extra 300

 

[Clare Newsome]

Pistol Pete on these forums auditioned the '1910 and the '2310 and went for the latter...

We're still trying to get a review model of the '2310 - Denon has samples of every receiver except this one!

 

[wireman]

Clare Newsome:

Pistol Pete on these forums auditioned the '1910 and the '2310 and went for the latter...

We're still trying to get a review model of the '2310 - Denon has samples of every receiver except this one!

Either it's so good that Denon can't get supplies shipped quickly enough, or maybe it's a make-weight range filler that they just didn't think would sell! It did take 3 weeks for Denon to supply mine, and, by the way this one sounds, I'd suggest it's probably the former rather than the latter.

PS: Don't the staff at What Hi-fi ever go home?

 

[Anonymous]

I have also demo'd both the 1910 & 2310, and am very happy to say i own the 2310.

I would also agree that the 2310 is worth the extra £300 to the person with the right setup.

I demo'd both on a set of Monitor Audio RS6's (my own floorstanders) in Richer Sounds and the difference to me was quite significant as i had also been using a 2307 for 2 years on the RS6's.

The 2310 made them feel a fair bit more alive at the same volume.

Also the 2310 has Anchor Bay ABT-2010 video processing, which seems to be the cutting edge of de-interlacing with five-field motion adaptive and edge adaptive processing and a whole host of other features.

Having said that, you should really demo them for yourself.

 

[Pistol Pete1]

Clare,

It wasn't just me who thought the 2310 was worth the extra £300.........

The wife did too

.......that is praise indeed, as she was expecting me to only spend £399 that day, rather than the £699......

Wireman: Don't you like your 2310 then?

 

[Pistol Pete1]

Jasonsony735,

Judging by your equipment list, and the fact that you can't get Denon via mail order, I'd contact a shop and have fun deciding for yourself if it's worth the extra money....

We both(wife and I) agreed the 2310 was definitely a big step up from the 1910, so felt it was worth it, rather than craving another upgrade 6 months later.......

I have to admit that both our faces 'lit up' within seconds of hearing the 2310, which we auditioned after listening to the 1910 for about 20 mins (to give our ears a chance to get used it the sound the 1910 produced.)

As you have arguably better speakers than I do, the improvement might be better, but then again the sound of the 2310 may 'clash' with B&W speakers (but doubt it)........

The difference between the way they sound can be described by this:

The 2310 had far more upper frequency detail on show, so therefore had better clarity and definition. The bass was definitely more refined, with plenty of drive and more punch, but again the clarity had improved over the 1910, and the midrange was right in the middle of it all........the 2310 was a far more mature sound, in my opinion, with bags of detail and omph behind it.

This added up to be a more realistic reproduction of the sound and movie effects, in my view....

Hope that helps...and enjoy auditioning them.....

 

[Anonymous]

Nice one pistol pete , I think i will go get one in 2 weeks time 🙂

Also where did you get one for £700 ? as this is a good price.

 

[Andrew Everard]

wireman:PS: Don't the staff at What Hi-fi ever go home?

Oh, we go home, but then it's straight back on the Forums...

 

[Anonymous]

I got mine for £749 in RS in-store.

On their website it was £849.

 

[Pistol Pete1]

In store at Creative Audio, they sell for £699.....

 

[Big Aura]

sound-wise it's the same spec as the 1910, except for an extra 10w per channel?

You're just paying for a marginal increase in punch, and the anchor bay video processing.

 

[Pistol Pete1]

I disagree with you, Big Aura,

The sound between the two is more than a bit extra wattage and punch.....as described above in this thread.....

 

[j4mm3r]

Big Aura,

Notice u have sony kdl40w4500, im looking to getting tv and pixmaina are selling a couple of these for £750, how do u rate it/get on with it?

cheers

 

[Anonymous]

Big Aura:

sound-wise it's the same spec as the 1910, except for an extra 10w per channel?

You're just paying for a marginal increase in punch, and the anchor bay video processing.

I disagree.

From what i heard of both, the increase was significant over the 1910 as i wouldn't throw an extra £300 for nothing.

 

[Big Aura]

j4mm3r:

Big Aura,

Notice u have sony kdl40w4500, im looking to getting tv and pixmaina are selling a couple of these for £750, how do u rate it/get on with it?

cheers

at the time I bought, I looked at a lot of screens. I was fixed on a panny plasma, but on SD picture, the Sony seemed better. While the contrast was marginally better on the panny, the Sony handled motion MUCH better. As a screen, I think it's really good, although the newer LCD backlit screens seem much better.

You will need to tweak the settings to get the best out of (I've turned the backlight right down).

Some users have had issues with "clouding" but other than very minor uneven lighting in the corners of the screen, I'm happy with the set. One thing I would be concerned about is, if there is a problem with your set, I understand Pixmania have a rather agressive customer service record, so you might struggle to return a duff set...

 

[j4mm3r]

Cheers big boy!

 

[Anonymous]

Hi all!

I was thinking of asking the very same question as this thread! 🙂

I was originally aiming at the 1910 with Kef 2005.3 speaker package but I'm swaying more towards the 2310 after reading great things about it. Do you think think the Kef's would be enough to run with the 2310 or would it be too much amp for the speakers? If not, what is the 'minimum' speakers you would pair with the 2310?

Thanks alot for your help!

 

[Anonymous]

I found this from a web site so i think it explains why the 2310 is better 🙂

Product Information
The Denon AVR-2310 follows on from the 1910 with a range of additions designed to appeal to the true home cinema buff.

First off is a thoroughly revised power amp section. This not only gives a 15% increase in power to 105 watts per channel, but also shows marked improvements in terms of quality, too. A new high current transistor design working in conjunction with an additional two power supplies gives the AVR2310 a cleaner, more dynamic sound that its little brother. Noticeable with either music or movies, the AVR-2310 raises the game in terms of sound quality.

Yet, the improvements don't end, there; far from it, in fact. The solitary 32-bit Digital Signal processor is joined by a second one and the AVR-2310 greatly benefits from Denon's famous ALPHA processing circuit. In addition to an extra 3 DSP modes, the upshot of this enhanced processing is a greater level of accuracy and control. User control is very much the name of the game with the AVR2310, too. Audyssey Auto Room and MultEQ set-up systems are upgraded to XT level for even more precise room matching. For the enthusiast there's a wide range of video and picture adjustment facilities. A Graphical User Interface (GUI) via HDMI makes all these new parameter controls easier to use. Like the AVR-1910, the AVR-2310 features a new High bit i/p converter and scaler up to 1080p; it gives this Denon AV receiver the very best picture quality from any source input.

When it comes to connecting up the AVR-2310, it offers a class-leading array of sockets. No fewer than 5 HDMI inputs are provided to satisfy even the most complex of HD home cinema systems. Adding to the AVR1910's passive second-zone system is a more advanced system with the choice of passive or active control and great deal more assignment functions. To reflect this enhanced flexibility, the remote control has also been upgraded with macro functions.

if you find home cinema more than casual entertainment and want as much control as possible, then the Denon AVR-2310 will prove a richly rewarding experience.

 

[Pistol Pete1]

Nice find, jasonsony735........but according to Big Aura, there are no differences between the two? (I wonder who I'll believe!!)

Set up a demo of the 1910 vs 2310 yet.........

Or just going to order one?

 

[Anonymous]

I've got the 2309 which is the previous model.

Not sure what the technical differences are - I paid 500 for mine in Jan and you can get it for about that now.

I also run it with B and W 685 fronts, 686 rears - the Home Theatre package except that I upgraded the centre channel to a CM 1.

I deomoed the denon alongside the Yamaha 863 which WHF fixate on ! I still can't work out what the one star difference is between these models . But I imagine that the 2310 may well get the max rating when reviewed .

For me the Denon had/ has more overall umph and in pure direct stereo mode a bit more detail than the Yammy , IMO.

I think it could do with more transparency but suggest that you'd need to go a far way up the food chain to get what you may really be after.

One other benefit for me of the Denon has been the addition of the brilliant AS3DW network dock- wireless internet radio which also plays my videos and films from the Itouch on to the big screen .

Pana bd35 , B AND W 685 theatre BI AMPED fronts, Denon 2309, denon AS3DW,

 

[Anonymous]

Had the 1910 for the weekend, upgraded it to the 2310 on the monday for the additional upscaling / downscale features (see my post). It definately has more welly too. Another bonus was the phono stage (for one who stills plays records). imho definately worth the extra

 

[giggsy1977]

Am I correct in thinking the 1910 has the same upscaling anchor bay processing as the 2310? Was looking at the Onkyo 876 for its upscaling but if the 1910 does a good job shall look at that. Can't afford the 2310 really:-(

 

[Pistol Pete1]

Just an update...now I have had my Denon 2310 for a few weeks.

Initially, I enjoyed cd playback using the 'Stereo' mode, and found the 'Pure Direct' lifeless and dull.

Well, I have just done a comparsion with the two again, as I wondered if 'Pure Direct' would be at it's best after a bit of 'running in' time for the receiver....and well.....

'Pure Direct' kicks the 'Stereo' modes completely........

'Stereo' mode now sounds muddled, with a lack of detail in comparsion to 'Pure Diect'.......also the vocals sounded like they are coming out of a 'box', rather than being loud and clear.....

'Pure direct' is the way to go, in my opinion.....but if any other 2310 owners discarded the 'Pure Direct' mode initially......go and re-listen once the receiver has had time to be 'run in'......

 

[Pistol Pete1]

Just tested it......

The 'Pure Direct' mode works well with blu ray/dvd's too. Improves it the same way it did with cd playback......

Wow, it sounds so good now!!!