Denon 1910 vs 2310 Is the extra £300 worth it ?

[wireman]

Pistol Pete1: ...now I have had my Denon 2310 for a few weeks....would be at it's best after a bit of 'running in' time for the receiver... and well... go and re-listen once the receiver has had time to be 'run in'......

Out of the box, leave it on all the time (to hell with your electricity bill and the environment), and give it a good thrashing for several tens of hours (leave a disc playing on repeat or play the radio whilst you're at work at moderate volume is a good way), then re-run the room calibration, then sit down and listen to it. As with most electronics, it'll take at least that long to settle and start to give of its best. It's completely pointless trying to fine-tune these things before it's been thrashed for a goodly period of time.

Speaker systems are even worse... how people take their new speaker sets out of the box, wire them up, and instantly feel qualified to give an opinion on how good they think they sound without even thrashing them for at least 10-20 hours is beyond me - the fundamental character will change radically even with 10-20 hours (for that reason alone, it's worth re-running your room correction again)... by about 100 hours, they should be sounding as good as the designer intended (and re-run your room correction yet again!).

 

[Anonymous]

Pete,

I have had the 2310 for a couple of days now, and without reading these forums discovered that the audyssey mode is very unclear, so totally agree with you.

My question is, do you know if it's possible to chose 'pure direct' or even 'direct' and have it output to the subwoofer as well? I can only run the sub in 'stereo' mode.

Cheers

 

[Pistol Pete1]

Welcome steeps,

Is this to listen to cd playback?

I assume it is, and would imagine that if you choose 'Pure Direct', it will output only what channels are inputted into the receiver. In other words, if the display on the left only shows left and right channels coming into receiver, you will only get that coming out on 'Pure direct' (like you would with a cd player using analogue input)......

Whereas, if you use blu ray, and use 'Pure Direct' the sub channel is inputted into receiver from blu ray player, so will be outputted to the sub...

Hope that makes sense....

 

[Pistol Pete1]

steeps,

Look at page 45 in manual......Direct and Pure Direct suggest no sub, yet stereo mentions 'left and right speakers and sub'..........

What speakers are you using?

 

[Pistol Pete1]

Hi again.....

Looking at page 31 in manual, you will see '2CH DIRECT/STEREO' setting information...

Just quickly looking at it, I think you can set it up so the sub works on 'Direct' mode, but not 'Pure Direct'.....

I think you will have to set it up in the 'Custom' section......

Hope that helps you........let me know.......

 

[cloud7]

How about the performance of the Dolby Prologic IIz for these AVRs1910 and 2310 ?? Are they exactly the same??

 

[Pistol Pete1]

No idea.......will not be using the feature........

 

[Anonymous]

Hi Pete,

Thanks for the quick reply...

Yes, it is for CD playback...

I've added my system to the signature now. The speakers are all bookshelf size, so when running direct and pure direct, the bottom-end bass is missing.

Funny enough, after running the audyssey test, it set some of the speakers to large...not very accurate.

Now, after looking at pg 31 in the manual, I set it up so that the sub is present, and the speakers are small...

But, this must be for the '2CH Stereo' part of it, as the input/output side of the display still only shows the 2 front speakers and no sub/LFE. When playing a dvd in surround mode, the direct function works fine.

I suppose 'direct' really means direct

Just odd that you can't pass the low freq on to the sub in this mode.

Cheers for your help anyways

 

[activebass]

Hi guys,

my virgin post on these boards,

I bought the AVR 2310 two weeks ago and haven't been able to enjoy it, as my wife and I are moving into our new apartment in three weeks.

The reason I bought this AV Receiver was that it was within my budget, had good reviews and sounded really well in the showroom. It handles movies very well and it's a pleasure to listen to acoustic music on this amp. I demoed this for quite a while in the showroom and at first thought that music didn't sound as good on it as on Yamaha and Pioneer amps, but with a bit of tweaking you can get this bad boy to handle various music genres well.

As part of a promotion Denon was giving away a free Boston Acoustic CS2310 5.1 speaker system for free with the Denon AVR-2310, so I went for it.

While I was out shopping for a projector today, I saw that there was an in-house promo for the AVR1910 and the same BA speaker system at 200SGD less, which is abut 100 pounds.

At first I was feeling a bit of buyer's remorse, since my new living room will be rather small and the AVR1910 ould have done a great job, but then I joine the people who were testing the AVR1910 and by chance they were watching Transformers 2 and Iron Man on BlueRay (seem to be popular DVDs for testing..) and the free CS2310 speakers.

The sales man was requested to switch between the 1910 and 2310 and the 2310 just sounded more lively, handled busier scenes with lots of explosions or gun sounds better and the subtle sounds were more audible.

All in all I was happy with my purchase and as mentioned the difference here in Singapore is 100 pounds between the two, so my buyer's remorse was quickly extinguished.