CD player upgrade

[tonky]

Cd (whether so-called sacd or just plain cd) is a superior listen compared to any compressed file.

I can hear a difference - I'm sure many others can too.

cheers tonky

 

[gasolin]

Cd (whether so-called sacd or just plain cd) is a superior listen compared to any compressed file.

I can hear a difference - I'm sure many others can too.

cheers tonky

Also between tidal hifi and cd using the same dac and cable?

 

[tonky]

I don't know anything about tidal. But I can only say that (inmho - based on what I have heard) There is a hearable difference between compressed music (even 320 kbps - as good as I know it can be) and uncompressed wav type files. I listen to internet radio and enjoy listening to all sorts of compressed stuff.

But none of it is as good as uncompressed wav . cheers tonky

fwiw I am thinking of getting spotify sometime in the near future just to see/hear how good many people find it as a convenient and decent source of music

 

[emperor's new clothes]

Hi Major,

Yes, i bought that original release on cd and used it to audition my Cyrus2/psx in 1987

It had better dynanic range, especially bass definition, than most of those awful early cds. The 20th aniversary edition then blew the original into the weeds. Why? no idea hence my view of a cynical music industry that doesn't much care for SQ. Having bought Led Zep 1&2 on release in 1969, I have yet to hear a cd version that comes close - the recent remasterd version being particularly nasty IMHO. The remasterd Pink Floyd series, however, are excellent. Shame you have to buy 5 versions of the same music to finally get one that satisfies. Whatever the reason BIA on SACD sounds stunning on my system and should on the OP's as he has an identical setup. Look forward to his view.

PS. Recently read a report from vinyl lovers in the USA saying that their versions were compressed compared to the European album.

 

[gasolin]

I don't know anything about tidal. But I can only say that (inmho - based on what I have heard) There is a hearable difference between compressed music (even 320 kbps - as good as I know it can be) and uncompressed wav type files. I listen to internet radio and enjoy listening to all sorts of compressed stuff.

But none of it is as good as uncompressed wav . cheers tonky

fwiw I am thinking of getting spotify sometime in the near future just to see/hear how good many people find it as a convenient and decent source of music

Spotify is free to use

 

[MajorFubar]

Shame you have to buy 5 versions of the same music to finally get one that satisfies. Whatever the reason BIA on SACD sounds stunning on my system and should on the OP's as he has an identical setup. Look forward to his view.

Indeed, it's ridiculous really. I'm still waiting to find a really good (stereo) digital version of DSotM; I was disappointed with the most recent remaster, it sounds just like the version I already owned except louder, including the "Ticket To Ride" print-through at the end, which isn't on my vinyl copy but is on my 1990s CD, and so comes from whatever nth generation copy was used for the the original A-D transfer, carried out in the 80s. This in turn proves they didn't go back to the original tapes to produce the latest remaster, just as far back as whichever nth-generation copy had the Ticket To ride print-through on it.

With regards to BIA there's no reason why it shouldn't sound as good on CD as it does on SACD seeing as it was recorded at 16/44.1 PCM, and neither DSD nor hi-res playback can add anything to it which wasn't there to start with. The fact you say the SACD sounds better (and I'm not doubting you) just proves it's all about the master, rather than the format in most cases. Certainly that must be true for BIA, and countless other albums from the same period which have only existed as 16/44 digital recordings to start with.

PS. Recently read a report from vinyl lovers in the USA saying that their versions were compressed compared to the European album.

Yeah it's not uncommon for EU and US to be completely different mixes or different masters of the same song. It's been going on years, as far back as the Beatles if not further.

 

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I upgraded to 8005 from cd 6004. I was using irdac with the cd6004. Altough both the cd player have same dac i am not using the irdac with 8005. 8005 sounds better on its own. On sq it does reflect the price difference. I posted a review here u might be able to find it.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

I upgraded to 8005 from cd 6004. I was using irdac with the cd6004. Altough both the cd player have same dac i am not using the irdac with 8005. 8005 sounds better on its own. On sq it does reflect the price difference. I posted a review here u might be able to find it.

hi I found your review on the sa8005 CD player and see you had the arcam irdac but thought that the CD player sounded much better without the ir dac being connected . I only got the irdac in the first place Improve the marantz pm6005 and the 6005 CD players sound and running Dali 3s at the time which the irdac did Improve the sound . But when I upgraded to the marantz pm8005 amp I still carried on using the dac and then I upgraded my speakers which are the best speakers I have ever hard in my life which then made me think to finish the final upgrade would be the matching CD player to go with the 8005 amp so I was thinking that the arcam dac would be better then the dac inside the marantz that's why I have carried on using it but now starting to think that now I have a good setup i do not need the arcam dac anymore so now I can not wait now to try it without the dac . But I always thought that the arcam blur brown was the best you could get as a dac

 

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I upgraded to 8005 from cd 6004. I was using irdac with the cd6004. Altough both the cd player have same dac i am not using the irdac with 8005. 8005 sounds better on its own. On sq it does reflect the price difference. I posted a review here u might be able to find it.

hi I found your review on the sa8005 CD player and see you had the arcam irdac but thought that the CD player sounded much better without the ir dac being connected . I only got the irdac in the first place Improve the marantz pm6005 and the 6005 CD players sound and running Dali 3s at the time which the irdac did Improve the sound . But when I upgraded to the marantz pm8005 amp I still carried on using the dac and then I upgraded my speakers which are the best speakers I have ever hard in my life which then made me think to finish the final upgrade would be the matching CD player to go with the 8005 amp so I was thinking that the arcam dac would be better then the dac inside the marantz that's why I have carried on using it but now starting to think that now I have a good setup i do not need the arcam dac anymore so now I can not wait now to try it without the dac . But I always thought that the arcam blur brown was the best you could get as a dac

when is the cd player? You will soon know for yourself.

let us know your impressions.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

i should get my sa8005 today or tomorrow as i orderd it from peter tyson on line but still running cd 6005 and irdac an till it comes

 

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i should get my sa8005 today or tomorrow as i orderd it from peter tyson on line but still running cd 6005 and irdac an till it comes

i got mine from peter tyson too, infact all my electronics are from PT. Nigel is a very good gentle man to do business with.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

i should get my sa8005 today or tomorrow as i orderd it from peter tyson on line but still running cd 6005 and irdac an till it comes

i got mine from peter tyson too, infact all my electronics are from PT. Nigel is a very good gentle man to do business with.

hi yes i got the sa8005 from Peter Tyson but on the Amazon site but maybe I should of gone to him directly then I would of got it sooner . I have not had a demonstration on this sacd player as I no it will be good so it was worth taking the risk as no one round here were I come from got one so it was impossible to get a demonstration done even on the pm8005 no one stocked it only the pm6005 & cd6005 that they seem to stock and now the new reference marantz amps & CD players they are starting to stock now but with a price tag of £1700 for the starting amp of the reference range and the same with the cd play I think that's about £2000 to buy