audio cable ...help

[Mrcrazer]

Has any one used both below audio cables for arcam cdp ? they are almost the same price.

-analysis chocolate oval

-QED reference

please share your advice on them .

thanks,

 

[Hi-FiOutlaw]

Here we go again... :?

all my cables are QED reference, very happy with it!

 

[TrevC]

Has any one used both below audio cables for arcam cdp ? they are almost the same price.

-analysis chocolate oval

-QED reference

please share your advice on them .

thanks,

Any cable will work well in that application.

 

[Covenanter]

"analysis chocolate oval" sounds like a biscuit.

Chris

 

[davedotco]

"analysis chocolate oval" sounds like a biscuit.

Chris

Nah, it's a beer, dark, slightly sweet with chocolate overtones.

Very similar to the Jack Black IPA I had at the weekend. Mrs DDC loves chocolate beer........ 8)

 

[CnoEvil]

"analysis chocolate oval" sounds like a biscuit.

Chris

Sounds like a medical procedure to me. :twisted:

 

[Mrcrazer]

Thanks for the advice.

I have heard that QED cable is made in China. Is there any possibility that the quality is not the same ( lower than) made in UK / EU ?

Best regards,

 

[Steve Reichert PR Manager ArmourHome]

Hello Mrcrazer

Thanks for expressing an interest in QED cables.

All QED's research and development takes place in the UK. Every cable is completely designed by QED and nothing is 'off the shelf'.

All the cables are then manufactured for us in China. They are made to the highest possible standards and we have complete confidence in them - which is why every cable comes with a Lifetime Guarantee.

The new Reference Audio 40 inteconnect is a perfect match for Arcam CD players. (Arcam kindly lent us some CD players, amps and DACs for our dem room and we use them to demonstrate both QED cables and Q Acoustics loudspeakers)

I expect you've seen the recent WHF Five Star review of this cable: http://www.whathifi.com/review/reference-audio-40

Best regards

Steve Reichert - PR Manager, Armour Home (QED)

 

[Alec]

...nothing is 'off the shelf'...All the cables are then manufactured for us in China.

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From the review you cite:

"Bass notes appear to plunge deeper and there’s a meaty, mature tone to music, but not at the expense of control or agility."

Nonsense, clearly.

 

[Mrcrazer]

Hello Mrcrazer

Thanks for expressing an interest in QED cables.

All QED's research and development takes place in the UK. Every cable is completely designed by QED and nothing is 'off the shelf'.

All the cables are then manufactured for us in China. They are made to the highest possible standards and we have complete confidence in them - which is why every cable comes with a Lifetime Guarantee.

The new Reference Audio 40 inteconnect is a perfect match for Arcam CD players. (Arcam kindly lent us some CD players, amps and DACs for our dem room and we use them to demonstrate both QED cables and Q Acoustics loudspeakers)

I expect you've seen the recent WHF Five Star review of this cable: http://www.whathifi.com/review/reference-audio-40

Best regards

Steve Reichert - PR Manager, Armour Home (QED)

Hello Steve,

Thank you very much for the information.

Does QED have a quality control process for those cables made in China ? Not just only have confidence or trust ....really not enough ...

Does QED apply Lifetime guarantee for authorised dealer outside of UK/ EU ?

Regards,

 

[hifikrazy]

...nothing is 'off the shelf'...All the cables are then manufactured for us in China.

.

From the review you cite:

"Bass notes appear to plunge deeper and there’s a meaty, mature tone to music, but not at the expense of control or agility."

Nonsense, clearly.

Another proud member of the Nonsense Brigade. Every utterance of the word nonsense directly increases one's feeling of self worth... but only if one suffers from inferiority complex.

 

[TrevC]

...nothing is 'off the shelf'...All the cables are then manufactured for us in China.

.

From the review you cite:

"Bass notes appear to plunge deeper and there’s a meaty, mature tone to music, but not at the expense of control or agility."

Nonsense, clearly.

Another proud member of the Nonsense Brigade. Every utterance of the word nonsense directly increases one's feeling of self worth... but only if one suffers from inferiority complex.

We're trying to educate you. It's a really tough job.

 

[TrevC]

Thanks for the advice.

I have heard that QED cable is made in China. Is there any possibility that the quality is not the same ( lower than) made in UK / EU ?

Best regards,

The sound quality will be exactly the same.

 

[Alec]

...nothing is 'off the shelf'...All the cables are then manufactured for us in China.

.

From the review you cite:

"Bass notes appear to plunge deeper and there’s a meaty, mature tone to music, but not at the expense of control or agility."

Nonsense, clearly.

Another proud member of the Nonsense Brigade. Every utterance of the word nonsense directly increases one's feeling of self worth... but only if one suffers from inferiority complex.

Nonsense.

 

[Anderson]

Hello Mrcrazer

Thanks for expressing an interest in QED cables.

All QED's research and development takes place in the UK. Every cable is completely designed by QED and nothing is 'off the shelf'.

All the cables are then manufactured for us in China. They are made to the highest possible standards and we have complete confidence in them - which is why every cable comes with a Lifetime Guarantee.

The new Reference Audio 40 inteconnect is a perfect match for Arcam CD players. (Arcam kindly lent us some CD players, amps and DACs for our dem room and we use them to demonstrate both QED cables and Q Acoustics loudspeakers)

I expect you've seen the recent WHF Five Star review of this cable: http://www.whathifi.com/review/reference-audio-40

Best regards

Steve Reichert - PR Manager, Armour Home (QED)

Hi Steve, can you explain what you mean when you say designed? Do you specify every final detail, like how the individual conductors where made, what they were made from, how they're weived etc? Do you specify where the ore for the metal comes from or who can make it for you? Do you design the plastic wrap and specify the number of insulators etc?

Can you provide any insight at how your designers came to the choices that ended up in the final product and any testing that or research that helped you.

You mention that your Reference 40 is a good match for the Arcam players, can you explain how you have come to this conclusion?

WHF has a long history of questionable reviews regarding cables, to quote they review you've linked "Bass notes appear to plunge deeper and there’s a meaty, mature tone to music, but not at the expense of control or agility.", "Tunes are engaging and balanced with an impressive level of detail." & "You are made aware of a much broader and more expansive soundstage compared with Ecosse’s Baton Mk2."

The reviewer was so impressed with the cable that they couldn't even put their name to the page, makes you wonder.

 

[Vladimir]

Hi Steve,

Has QED done any ABX tests where it shows scientifically if its audibly better than the competition? That would instantly convince me to switch from Audioquest to QED.

:wave:

 

[ISAC69]

This is completely nonsense it's like asking if the Roksan Kandy done any tests where it shows scientifically if its audibly better than the competition?

 

[ReValveiT]

I have an older 0.5m Audioquest Jade cable from my more 'gullible' days. Cost me £40 in about '98 I think.

Just for giggles, I figured I'd hook it in to replace the 1m 'cheap'n'chearful' cable I've been using for the past 5 years or so.

So, Adjusting for inflation the Audioquest would be around a £50 to £60 cable today? So a £50 cable vs a £2 cable.

No difference. At all.

 

[TrevC]

I have an older 0.5m Audioquest Jade cable from my more 'gullible' days. Cost me £40 in about '98 I think.

Just for giggles, I figured I'd hook it in to replace the 1m 'cheap'n'chearful' cable I've been using for the past 5 years or so.

So, Adjusting for inflation the Audioquest would be around a £50 to £60 cable today? So a £50 cable vs a £2 cable.

No difference. At all.

The 'golden eared' brigade, AKA hifi religious, will be along shortly to call you deaf, or your equipment inadequate in some way........

 

[Vladimir]

This is completely nonsense it's like asking if the Roksan Kandy done any tests where it shows scientifically if its audibly better than the competition?

Actually I would like an ABX test done between the level matched Kandy K2 and the Caspian M2. The M2 has additional 3db gain in the preamp which gives it an edge in showroom comparisons. To our ears louder is better and amps that releive all their power early on the volume dial feel more masculine and powerfull. Comparing in controled enviroment might yield different results than showrooms.

If I produced my own brand of cables I would want to sell a product that has clear audible improvements over the competition verified in controled tests. I would promote my ABX results publicly to crush the skeptics spreading doubt about the benefit my product gives to the customer.

QED is such a great brand with EE designers, measuring equipment etc. Why wouldn't they do some tests to see what are the audible benefits of their product. Harman does it and it works great for their products and marketing. They even DBT speakers, would you believe it?

Great video, must watch! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56xPMqZmejU

 

[Covenanter]

This is completely nonsense it's like asking if the Roksan Kandy done any tests where it shows scientifically if its audibly better than the competition?

It's not nonsense! I bet you haven't done any blind testing and yet you appear to have spent a fortune on cables.

Chris

 

[spiny norman]

I bet you haven't done any blind testing and yet you appear to have spent a fortune on cables.

You say that like one is dependent on the other.

 

[Covenanter]

Well I wouldn't spend a lot of money on anything without doing some objective testing.

Chris

 

[Vladimir]

Isac's cables are just good decent hi-fi cables. They don't cost a fortune.

 

[spiny norman]

just good decent hi-fi cables

No such thing, it seems. Apparently wet string would do just as well.