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CES Hands On - Samsung HW-Q990F review
nopiano
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These look like my old HiFi Choice magazines, from the days when the amps were tested by Angus McKenzie or Martin Colloms. I have some indoors but fear a few are still lurking in a box in the garage. Only Paul Miller seems to test as thoroughly these days, though John Atkinson at Stereophile is good too.insider9 said:Much appreciated. Off to read them all be back soonVladimir said:
nopiano
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Yes! I think I told you that I once owned the AU-919. I’d love to hear it again. Beautiful layout and excellent MC phono stage.Vladimir said:
nopiano said:
Many vintage punters consider the 919's generation to be circuit design wise the best of Sansui, claiming its the period when the brand peaked. Then the 80's came and it started going downhill for most Japanese manufacturers.
Blacksabbath25
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as much as I like the classic amplifiers the A-S2100 is very good at jazz and guitar tracks but as you no matching the Yamaha with a good pair of speakers is important to get the best out of both .ivres said:
if you can get a demonstration done try other the Yamaha A-S801 , A-S1000 , A-S2100 with Dali opticon 6 just purely to listen take some CDs with you I bet you would like the sound .
I pulled the trigger and bought second hand yamaha a-s2000. I know it's risky to buy without listening myself.
I found it in a very good price and i hope I'll like it. If not i will sell it and start searching again.
I will share my impressions when I'll hook it up to the speakers.
I found it in a very good price and i hope I'll like it. If not i will sell it and start searching again.
I will share my impressions when I'll hook it up to the speakers.
Blacksabbath25
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Great ! I hope you like it as it’s very risky buying blind but I think your be impressed by its build quality and it’s sound quality
what did you pay for the Yamaha A-S2000 ? As the Yamaha A-S2100 is about £1800 new
what did you pay for the Yamaha A-S2000 ? As the Yamaha A-S2100 is about £1800 new
Blacksabbath25
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I spent a few hours listening this combo. It is ok but not something special!
The detail is present, the sound is wide but in higher volumes the speakers scream a little.
i dare to say that harman with monitor audio sounded better in my ears.
I’m gonna sell the yamaha and I wil try to hear the speakers either with harman or roksan kandy k2 which was another option available.
The detail is present, the sound is wide but in higher volumes the speakers scream a little.
i dare to say that harman with monitor audio sounded better in my ears.
I’m gonna sell the yamaha and I wil try to hear the speakers either with harman or roksan kandy k2 which was another option available.
insider9
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Try Roksan L3 not the K2 or KA-1 Mk3 (non L3 version). It's really nice and will match your speakers well. Lots of punch. Plus it will be much cheaper than K2.
Unfortunately it is not easy to try a second hand amp before you buy it.
After listening Focal and yamaha more extensively, I conclude that yamaha is a very capable amplifier with lots of detail, wide soundstage, tight bass that could be a little more present and i feel that indeed it is a little bit bright.
The result is good but since i notice this, i think i could do better.
Comparing with HK 990, harman produced much more bass (but very tight), again wide soundstage, it was not so detailed and was also a little bit restrained in high frequences.
So each amp is great in each own way. Personally, I prefer Harman. I wish i could have them side by side to make comparisons with my ears.
So, there are two ways. Either i try to find again harman or a more sweet sounding amp like harman (that's why i think of roksan kandy k2), or I could trade again my speakers for something that matches yamaha.
After listening Focal and yamaha more extensively, I conclude that yamaha is a very capable amplifier with lots of detail, wide soundstage, tight bass that could be a little more present and i feel that indeed it is a little bit bright.
The result is good but since i notice this, i think i could do better.
Comparing with HK 990, harman produced much more bass (but very tight), again wide soundstage, it was not so detailed and was also a little bit restrained in high frequences.
So each amp is great in each own way. Personally, I prefer Harman. I wish i could have them side by side to make comparisons with my ears.
So, there are two ways. Either i try to find again harman or a more sweet sounding amp like harman (that's why i think of roksan kandy k2), or I could trade again my speakers for something that matches yamaha.
Blacksabbath25
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I would say keep the Yamaha and change your speakers for something more better then the Monitor audio bronze
My current speakers are Focal aria 906. So If I'll follow that way, I have to change them for something better than these!
Blacksabbath25
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Sorry I was going by the beginning post where you said you had monitor audio bronze but I have found that the Dali opticon range sounds good with Yamaha but you may find that different with your ears
As i read Dali opticon is on the bright side so if I hook up the yamaha the result will not please me. Focal are not bright but i still find something annoying.
So I conclude that my preference in music is to hear sweet - warm/full sound. That's why I suppose that the combo Harman-MA bronze was more pleasant to my ears.
So I conclude that my preference in music is to hear sweet - warm/full sound. That's why I suppose that the combo Harman-MA bronze was more pleasant to my ears.
Blacksabbath25
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Well I’ve owned the opticon 6s And now the opticon 8s and I use a Yamaha A-S2100
i find the sound to be clean , smooth , detailed with very good bass control I wouldn’t say my opticon’s are bright sounding but I guess someone else would look at them as bright as we all hear different things in sound quality .
i find the sound to be clean , smooth , detailed with very good bass control I wouldn’t say my opticon’s are bright sounding but I guess someone else would look at them as bright as we all hear different things in sound quality .
ivres said:
Someone call a Doctor sharpish, somewhere out in the world Vlad is having some kind of seizure!
Vladimir please tell me your opinion.
Would you trade yamaha for harman or roksan kandy k2 or i should give more time to this combo?(yamaha-focal)
Today after listening about 3-4 hours I liked a little more this combination. So, either I got used to it or day by day the speakers play better beacause they have played just 20- 30 hours. Or both...
Even yamaha is not bright, i can now realize that it does not forgive bad recordings or bright radio stations etc...so it does not round the sound...Maybe this means neutral!
Would you trade yamaha for harman or roksan kandy k2 or i should give more time to this combo?(yamaha-focal)
Today after listening about 3-4 hours I liked a little more this combination. So, either I got used to it or day by day the speakers play better beacause they have played just 20- 30 hours. Or both...
Even yamaha is not bright, i can now realize that it does not forgive bad recordings or bright radio stations etc...so it does not round the sound...Maybe this means neutral!
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We usually find...that when we climb this hi-fi ladder....the amplifier/speakers become less tolerable to poorer sources and recordings....hence the reason most people tend to believe that they have a lemon of an amp or speakers...when actually the source or source recording is to blame.....or maybe....you have just chosen unwisely.lol.
ivres said:
If I had that Harman only way I'd let it go is from my cold dead hands.
That amp has more history, pedigree and engineering behind it than any Sugden or Krell or whatever. It's design concept from Harman's golden years, a Matti Otala Citation XX progeny. I had its grandady the HK6900, best amp I ever had.
It also runs first few watts in class A to achieve minimal unmeasurable Intermodular Distortion (the one we hear and hate, unlike THD). That's why it runs hot even when idle. The high biasing and extremely high current delivery capability got it banned from the European market as too dangerous.
I'd keep that baby forever, recapp it in 15 years.
PS - keeping it has a downside that you will have no audiophile friends. People will suggest you 50W british integrated to replace the "AVR" Harman as "your first real hifi amp". 99% of people in this hobby are ignorants, it's your decision how much you prefer pats on the back over actual hifi.
insider9
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