You realise all those extra cables are going to give you spaghetti junction unless you're careful?
Overdose
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Passive or active setups will be just different solutions to the same problem. Specific AVI ADM speakers would not be ideal, as they are a complete system, but for a stereo pair. You would not need more than one preamp or DAC and the one pair of ADM9s, would not simultaeneously control the other pairs, so you'd be paying for a lot of redundancy.
I would imagine that a bespoke active system might have a processor in the sub or large centre unit and this would be used to control the satellite speakers. I do not know of any, so maybe one needs to be made?
I would imagine that a bespoke active system might have a processor in the sub or large centre unit and this would be used to control the satellite speakers. I do not know of any, so maybe one needs to be made?
This is a 5.1 system connected to sub. Excellent stuff.
http://www.genelec.com/download.php?page=documents/qsg/QSG_5040A.pdf
http://www.genelec.com/download.php?page=documents/qsg/QSG_5040A.pdf
altruistic.lemon said:
spaghetti junction
. I know all about that.Id like to think I'd take a bit of care with cable hiding if I do a proper HC setup. In a passive 5.1 you've got 5 speaker cables (10 plugs) + sub, with active you'll have just one pre out cable per speaker + sub so possibly a bit less messy ?
Re. the mains cable. Obviously strategically placed sockets will help, rather than extensions etc all over.
daveh75
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richardw42 said:
Guessing it would have to be, given they're handed. Would mean fitting slave amps into master cabs.
daveh75
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Shame Aperion aren't (officially) available outside North America
Their wireless 5.1 system ticks a lot of boxes.
http://www.aperionaudio.com/speakers/wireless-speakers/new-aperion-intimus-4t-summit-wireless-5-1-system
Their wireless 5.1 system ticks a lot of boxes.
http://www.aperionaudio.com/speakers/wireless-speakers/new-aperion-intimus-4t-summit-wireless-5-1-system
BenLaw
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AlmaataKZ said:
There are also a number of 5.1 active systems on atcforums, such as this one:
http://atcforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=6121
I'll try and find some more.
BenLaw
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daveh75
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AlmaataKZ said:
You'd still need a pre-amp of some description though to accommodate multiple/digital sources, and doubled the number of anologue I/Cs required in the process.
That first ATC set up is beautiful and something I'd love. Tbh I haven't bothered googling for prices, as I can imagine its well out of my league.
That centre is huge.
That centre is huge.
BenLaw
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richardw42 said:
Really, really not cheap if you have floorstanding fronts and an active centre, plus their c4 or c6 sub. You could do it cheaper with second hand fronts or standmounts, but you're still talking many thousands. My own (passive) c3c is big, bigger than any gap left in standard av units that I could find, and the smallest active centre the c3ca is substantially bigger again. I don't really know any small or cheap active centres, so options are to buy second hand (tho not many come up) use a standmount centre (on its side if you have to) or use a passive centre amped by an av receiver. AlmaataKZ I think uses ATC's passive c1c like this, with active 50s as fronts.
Indeed, I have active 2.1 connected to dac/pre and passive centre (atc c1c) and rears (old monitor audio monitor 3) connected to pre outs of the avr. Works well enough.
I would love to have an active multichannel setup but I would only do it during a new build or refurbishment and even then would only go for small-ish centre and rears e.g. C3ca maximum and some simple two-way actives for rears, most likely built into walls with all the cabling hidden and pre wired power switches. Too messy otherwise (unless you have a den where it is ok).
Currently the rear cables are hidden under the fitted carpet - did that when it was being replaced, five years before I even moved into the flat.
I would love to have an active multichannel setup but I would only do it during a new build or refurbishment and even then would only go for small-ish centre and rears e.g. C3ca maximum and some simple two-way actives for rears, most likely built into walls with all the cabling hidden and pre wired power switches. Too messy otherwise (unless you have a den where it is ok).
Currently the rear cables are hidden under the fitted carpet - did that when it was being replaced, five years before I even moved into the flat.
Overdose
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I'm getting a sense of deja vu.
If you were prepared to have a redundant speaker, you could have a fully wireless active setup in the form of the Xeos.
A pair of Xeo 5s for fronts, Xeo 3s for the rears and another Xeo 3 single for the centre, or use the pair fed from a signal splitter from the centre channel. A Dynaudio sub would compliment the setup.
That would not be cheap though, coming in at around £6K :O
I think that Dynaudio could offer a special HC package that included a 5.1 receiver instead of having to use three separate receivers.
What's the budget?
If you were prepared to have a redundant speaker, you could have a fully wireless active setup in the form of the Xeos.
A pair of Xeo 5s for fronts, Xeo 3s for the rears and another Xeo 3 single for the centre, or use the pair fed from a signal splitter from the centre channel. A Dynaudio sub would compliment the setup.
That would not be cheap though, coming in at around £6K :O
I think that Dynaudio could offer a special HC package that included a 5.1 receiver instead of having to use three separate receivers.
What's the budget?
Is that the OP or me ?
im guessing the loft conversion will be anything up to 30k, if I do it I don't want to skimp.
Id like to think I'd get myself a pretty special HC set up for 10-12k to include any pro installation if necessary.
My thinking is PJ - fixed screen - BDP - processor - 5 x actives & 1 or 2 subs.
If AVI for example were my preferred choice, I'd expect some lead time, as it would be an unusual request, if indeed they'd do it 5 x ADM9 slaves.
But as its 18 - 24 months away who knows what might come up in the meantime.
im guessing the loft conversion will be anything up to 30k, if I do it I don't want to skimp.
Id like to think I'd get myself a pretty special HC set up for 10-12k to include any pro installation if necessary.
My thinking is PJ - fixed screen - BDP - processor - 5 x actives & 1 or 2 subs.
If AVI for example were my preferred choice, I'd expect some lead time, as it would be an unusual request, if indeed they'd do it 5 x ADM9 slaves.
But as its 18 - 24 months away who knows what might come up in the meantime.
BenLaw
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This would be a good start, at an extremely reasonable price: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ATC-Concept-4-C4Ca-ACTIVE-POWERED-Centre-Speaker-/111011136958?pt=UK_AudioVideoElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_HiFiSpeakers&hash=item19d8c785be
Overdose
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Just stumbled across the M-Patch 5.1 controller. That would make things easier.
One Blu-Ray player
One controller
Six actives of some description.
Easy.
Maybe I should keep a hold of my BM5As for now.
One Blu-Ray player
One controller
Six actives of some description.
Easy.
Maybe I should keep a hold of my BM5As for now.
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