What speaker cables?

[gasolin]

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[Revolutions]

For anyone who might be interested- I just switched from Audioquest rocket 11 to chord Rumour x as I needed longer cables.

they sound identical for all I can tell. Unsurprisingly. But I do love how much thinner & easier to manage the chord cable is. And the factory fitted plugs look great.

 

[Dom]

Actually, I wasn't looking at the price I'm afraid. I bought twelve meters of QED Silver Anniversary Bi-Wire back in 2007 for about £130.
I've no idea how much that would cost now. I tried swapping it for Oxygen Free Copper Bi-Wires about 3 months ago because I read somewhere that silver might sound too bright. Copper actually sounds nicer than silver, less harsh, said this article I was foolish enough to take any notice of.
After trying the copper speaker cables for about the last three months, I've decided to put the silver cables back on to my system. I believe rightly or wrongly, that I can hear a difference and that silver does in fact sound better than copper to me.
Fact or fiction? Who knows.

If you can hear a difference, then that's what matters. I tend not to believe any reviews. You have to hear it for yourself.

As for silver sounding brighter - What have they been smoking.

 

[DougK1]

Actually, I wasn't looking at the price I'm afraid. I bought twelve meters of QED Silver Anniversary Bi-Wire back in 2007 for about £130.
I've no idea how much that would cost now. I tried swapping it for Oxygen Free Copper Bi-Wires about 3 months ago because I read somewhere that silver might sound too bright. Copper actually sounds nicer than silver, less harsh, said this article I was foolish enough to take any notice of.
After trying the copper speaker cables for about the last three months, I've decided to put the silver cables back on to my system. I believe rightly or wrongly, that I can hear a difference and that silver does in fact sound better than copper to me.
Fact or fiction? Who knows.

What you bought all those years ago was SPOFC - silver-plated oxygen-free copper cable, and is still available today. A quick google has revealed that 1 metre of pure silver cable is around £750 metre, and that's for single, not bi-wire!
What you need is for me and Gray to pay you a visit, we'll conduct a proper blind-test for you

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

A quick google has revealed that 12 metres of pure silver cable is around £750 metre, and that's for single, not bi-wire.

Eek.

 

[Al ears]

Eek.

Good job I only need 4m then....

 

[plastic penguin]

What you bought all those years ago was SPOFC - silver-plated oxygen-free copper cable, and is still available today. A quick google has revealed that 1 metre of pure silver cable is around £750 metre, and that's for single, not bi-wire!
What you need is for me and Gray to pay you a visit, we'll conduct a proper blind-test for you

I wonder what idiots would spend that much?

 

[Al ears]

Sorry but no your wrong it's not silver plated copper, it's pure silver. You can easily see when you look at the inner and strip it. There's no copper in it whatsoever, if there were, you'd easily see it. I'm not stupid enough to not tell the difference between copper and silver. Moreover, silver is not actually all that expensive as a metal.
They might have decided these days to charge ridiculous money for silver cable but I assure you that in 2007 when I bought it, it was not stupidly expensive.
No hard feelings though.

If you're talking about the QED Silver Anniversary it was never pure silver, as far as I am aware

 

[DougK1]

Sorry but no your wrong it's not silver plated copper, it's pure silver. You can easily see when you look at the inner and strip it. There's no copper in it whatsoever, if there were, you'd easily see it. I'm not stupid enough to not tell the difference between copper and silver. Moreover, silver is not actually all that expensive as a metal.
They might have decided these days to charge ridiculous money for silver cable but I assure you that in 2007 when I bought it, it was not stupidly expensive.
No hard feelings though.

No hard feelings at all John, I'm not trying to shoot you down, just offering advice
It's been available for years and is still on sale now:

Reference Silver Anniversary XT

The multi-award winning Silver Anniversary XT cable delivers superior performance.

www.qed.co.uk

The only thing they've changed is it now has something called "X-Tube" technology, whatever that is. But it's still silver-plated copper (SPOFC).

 

[Gray]

What you need is for me and Gray to pay you a visit, we'll conduct a proper blind-test for you

👍 It will be educational.
(I've got enough wire coat hangers).

 

[JDL]

I wonder what idiots would spend that much?

No hard feelings at all John, I'm not trying to shoot you down, just offering advice
It's been available for years and is still on sale now:

Reference Silver Anniversary XT

The multi-award winning Silver Anniversary XT cable delivers superior performance.

www.qed.co.uk

The only thing they've changed is it now has something called "X-Tube" technology, whatever that is. But it's still silver-plated copper (SPOFC).

It's not silver anniversary xt.
If there was copper inside you'd see it yes?

 

[JDL]

I wonder what idiots would spend that much?

No hard feelings at all John, I'm not trying to shoot you down, just offering advice
It's been available for years and is still on sale now:

Reference Silver Anniversary XT

The multi-award winning Silver Anniversary XT cable delivers superior performance.

www.qed.co.uk

The only thing they've changed is it now has something called "X-Tube" technology, whatever that is. But it's still silver-plated copper (SPOFC).

My mistake. Strange because when I cut and strip it, I can't see copper. Nevertheless, I see I am mistaken. I never took much notice when I bought the stuff just assumed that because it was called silver anniversary it was silver. Silly me huh.😂

 

[Al ears]

My mistake. Strange because when I cut and strip it, I can't see copper. Nevertheless, I see I am mistaken. I never took much notice when I bought the stuff just assumed that because it was called silver anniversary it was silver. Silly me huh.😂

Not really. If it was pure silver you had a bargain.....

 

[JDL]

I wonder what idiots would spend that much?

I don't need to spend any money at all to be an idiot.
I try not to be one but somehow, I still manage it.😀

 

[JDL]

Not really. If it was pure silver you had a bargain.....

It's hilarious thinking about it. I spent all those years feeling really proud of my super audiophile pure silver speaker wire, which wasn't pure silver at all. It was copper all along with a silver coating.
And now my bubble got broke. Ow. My poor bubble. Damm it. If only I wasn't so gullible. Anyway a lesson learned. All that glitters isn't gold....or silver in my case. Ha ha..... Thanks Doug for illuminating me. Truth is always the best thing, even when it hurts a little bit.

 

[DougK1]

My mistake. Strange because when I cut and strip it, I can't see copper. Nevertheless, I see I am mistaken. I never took much notice when I bought the stuff just assumed that because it was called silver anniversary it was silver. Silly me huh.😂

No one is silly on here, we just occasionally fall for technical blurb, been there, done that several times I think I might have owned the same cable at some stage and thought the same as you

 

[JDL]

No one is silly on here, we just occasionally fall for technical blurb, been there, done that several times I think I might have owned the same cable at some stage and thought the same as you

Actually, you've done me a favour Doug, because now I needn't bother going to the trouble of swapping my perfectly decent copper speaker cables back to the QED stuff. That can stay coiled up and it was a bit too short. Problem solved. Nice one and thank you!!

 

[Al ears]

Actually, you've done me a favour Doug, because now I needn't bother going to the trouble of swapping my perfectly decent copper speaker cables back to the QED stuff. That can stay coiled up and it was a bit too short. Problem solved. Nice one and thank you!!

I blame QED for the confusing naming.....

 

[DougK1]

I blame QED for the confusing naming.....

They know exactly what they're doing

 

[DougK1]

Actually, you've done me a favour Doug, because now I needn't bother going to the trouble of swapping my perfectly decent copper speaker cables back to the QED stuff. That can stay coiled up and it was a bit too short. Problem solved. Nice one and thank you!!

If you think the QED sounds better then go for it, if not then stick with what's connected already

 

[Gray]

If there was copper inside you'd see it yes?

Well I'd certainly expect to see some central copper colouring where it's been cut through.

(Maybe the cutters drag silver plating across the face of the cut strands 🤔).

 

[Rodolfo]

I have a couple of sets of these plug-ins installed that have worked well for me for 5 and 6 years. Nice compromise of heft and flexibility --I don't know whether/how they'd be available to you:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0791S9D57/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

Enjoy your new sound!

 

[nopiano]

Actually, you've done me a favour Doug, because now I needn't bother going to the trouble of swapping my perfectly decent copper speaker cables back to the QED stuff. That can stay coiled up and it was a bit too short. Problem solved. Nice one and thank you!!

I think that some cable ‘experts’ will suggest that the signal travels along the outer part of the wire, hence if you have silver plating then the silver may be doing the work.

Or perhaps it was released to celebrate 25 years in business? I believe QED are 50 this year, like, Linn, Naim, Rega and others, so the design may be from 25 years ago.

 

[Gray]

I think that some cable ‘experts’ will suggest that the signal travels along the outer part of the wire, hence if you have silver plating then the silver may be doing the work.

Indeed, the original post mentions Amazon Basics and they say this about their cable:

• 'The material is CCA – Copper Clad Aluminium. The surface of the cable (where the data transfer takes place) is copper, but the base metal is aluminium'.

Read that and you might think that 'data transfer' doesn't occur in the aluminium.

They also say:

'No Distortion​

The plastic jacket around the speaker wire helps to deliver high-quality undistorted signals to and from all of your audio equipment'.

Read that and the uninitiated could be forgiven for thinking they know what they're talking about.

 

[Rodolfo]

I wonder who makes Amazon's cables. Their banana plugs look identical to my Sewell ones. Of course, a third party -or more- may make both, and who knows whether it varies internationally or otherwise...