What CD Player budget/Model would cleary outperform my current Denon BT-2500 BD player used for Music?

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I am currently using my BT-2500 BD player for Music plugged into Yamaha Z7 AV amp with Dali Ikon 6 speakers.

However I would like to open my wallet for a dedicated CD player that would really take the sound quality to the next stage for music.

What price range of CD player would do that? If anyone has any particular models in mind, even better.

Thanks for your input

 

[Anonymous]

Any idea anyone?

PS: Sorry for the long thread title. Will use something shorter next time 🙂

 

[Anonymous]

You would'n probably get more SQ for your money, if you buy an external DAC to handle the sound, and let your BDP take care of the CD spinning.

 

[michael hoy]

Where would you plug the DAC into, the 2500 only has HDMI out and no other connections.

Only asking because this is of interest to me as well.

 

[Anonymous]

You cannot with the BT2500. Your set-up is very good....no budget cd will beat the sound you now enjoy.

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your feedback.

What <1000£ CD would match this system, and cleary offer a step up from the BT-2500?

 

[RCduck7]

Garland Genoho:You cannot with the BT2500. Your set-up is very good....no budget cd will beat the sound you now enjoy.

Yes, except for a few. I was baffled of the build quality and sound of MHZS cd players. On many forums they are described as +1000 euro cd player beaters. Their entry level player starts for about 200£ but it's not entry level sound by any means. They also can be easely and cheap modified for even better sound. If you want to spend a bit more take a look at the Raysonic and Doge 6 players. The Raysonic is a stunning design to look at to. Google them!

I'm not sure but wouldn't a dedicated stereo amp be a better upgrade for music over a AV receiver? In many cases it would.

 

[Anonymous]

I have a Raysonic CD-128 Tube player that is very very good! The looks are pretty cool also with the blue glow 🙂 As a bonus, you can use the remote to knock somewhat out!

 

[RCduck7]

fanghorn:As a bonus, you can use the remote to knock somewhat out!

Yes, ever wondered why the chinese people are shorter?

Seriously, i haven't read a bad word about the Raysonic players.

I just ordered this MHZS CD88G

http://www.hkamplifier.com/ebay/mhzs/88g_black/88G_02.jpg

If it will be run in properly i think will go to it with a dealer of raysonic, i would like to know how it compares to the Raysonic CD228 with it's outboard power supply.

http://www.raysonicaudio.com/product_details.php?ID=4

But for now, i don't want to spend that money on a CD228 player (which is a lot more expensive then the CD128) if it doesn't come with digital inputs so it could also be used as a DAC. But the R&D of Raysonic is bussy with the possibility on digital inputs in one or more of their future CD players.

 

[Gerrardasnails]

Garland Genoho:You cannot with the BT2500. Your set-up is very good....no budget cd will beat the sound you now enjoy.

I disagree. The amp if we use the rough estimate of av receiver at £1k is the equivalent to a £300 stereo amp for music, he has a decent £600 level stereo amp. The speakers are very nice and a budget bd player can easily be upped by a say, £300-500 cd player. If he is interested in using computer music and a DAC, he could get the Cambridge Audio 740 or 840c which have digital inputs. The 840c would batter the bd player ( as would the 740). If a DAC is not needed, the Rega Apollo is very well liked and you can get very good deals on the Arcam CD192.

 

[Anonymous]

im with you gn the apollo is a good player especially at current prices or the ca 840

 

[Anonymous]

Gerrardasnails:Garland Genoho:You cannot with the BT2500. Your set-up is very good....no budget cd will beat the sound you now enjoy.

I disagree. The amp if we use the rough estimate of av receiver at £1k is the equivalent to a £300 stereo amp for music, he has a decent £600 level stereo amp. The speakers are very nice and a budget bd player can easily be upped by a say, £300-500 cd player. If he is interested in using computer music and a DAC, he could get the Cambridge Audio 740 or 840c which have digital inputs. The 840c would batter the bd player ( as would the 740). If a DAC is not needed, the Rega Apollo is very well liked and you can get very good deals on the Arcam CD192.

That was my opinion, short stuff! Cambridge audio is rubbish. Rega apollo YES! Arcam is boring.

 

[Gerrardasnails]

Garland Genoho:Gerrardasnails:Garland Genoho:You cannot with the BT2500. Your set-up is very good....no budget cd will beat the sound you now enjoy.

I disagree. The amp if we use the rough estimate of av receiver at £1k is the equivalent to a £300 stereo amp for music, he has a decent £600 level stereo amp. The speakers are very nice and a budget bd player can easily be upped by a say, £300-500 cd player. If he is interested in using computer music and a DAC, he could get the Cambridge Audio 740 or 840c which have digital inputs. The 840c would batter the bd player ( as would the 740). If a DAC is not needed, the Rega Apollo is very well liked and you can get very good deals on the Arcam CD192.

That was my opinion, short stuff! Cambridge audio is rubbish. Rega apollo YES! Arcam is boring.

you obviously haven't heard the 840c then. It's a better cd player than the Rega, without doubt.

 

[Anonymous]

later this year, I will be seeking a used Acoustic Precision Eikos (standard Pioneer PD-S904 that was heavily modded by Tom Evans)

can still get full serviced by Tom Evans and from what I have read, these are very good ...

a good used one should sell for approx £700-£800 .... add a £300 service and I think I will have a very very good CDP

from what I have read on the internet:

In Tom's opinion, listening tests showed the fully upgraded Eikos "made the Linn Sondek CD-12 sound like a toy".

 

[Anonymous]

Gerrardasnails:Garland Genoho:Gerrardasnails:Garland Genoho:You cannot with the BT2500. Your set-up is very good....no budget cd will beat the sound you now enjoy.

I disagree. The amp if we use the rough estimate of av receiver at £1k is the equivalent to a £300 stereo amp for music, he has a decent £600 level stereo amp. The speakers are very nice and a budget bd player can easily be upped by a say, £300-500 cd player. If he is interested in using computer music and a DAC, he could get the Cambridge Audio 740 or 840c which have digital inputs. The 840c would batter the bd player ( as would the 740). If a DAC is not needed, the Rega Apollo is very well liked and you can get very good deals on the Arcam CD192.

That was my opinion, short stuff! Cambridge audio is rubbish. Rega apollo YES! Arcam is boring.

you obviously haven't heard the 840c then. It's a better cd player than the Rega, without doubt.

CA 840C @£750.00 (4 stars), Rega Apollo @£475.00 (5 stars). CA is over-rated and rubbish.

 

[Anonymous]

A 4 star product in a higher price range can be better-sounding than a 5 star product in a lower range, because afaik, the price to performance ratio is a factor in determining the overall rating.

That's why the C565BEE for example, does not get as many stars as the C515BEE. That however, does not mean that it sounds worse.

 

[Anonymous]

dont forget its the subjective opinion of the testers also and many would disagree as youll see if you look at other sites and magazines

in fact the ca out rates by a long way the rega in some german magazines where they say it is suitable for use with serious upmarket gear worth many thousands

myself i wouldnt buy one because its sound is too dry for my ears but there seems little doubt its a top-class player

 

[Gerrardasnails]

Garland, I say again that you obviously haven't listened to the 840C and you obviously don't know how the star ratings work. The 840 has won numerous awards at a price range above the Rega.

 

[Anonymous]

Garland Genoho:Gerrardasnails:Garland Genoho:Gerrardasnails:Garland Genoho:You cannot with the BT2500. Your set-up is very good....no budget cd will beat the sound you now enjoy.

I disagree. The amp if we use the rough estimate of av receiver at £1k is the equivalent to a £300 stereo amp for music, he has a decent £600 level stereo amp. The speakers are very nice and a budget bd player can easily be upped by a say, £300-500 cd player. If he is interested in using computer music and a DAC, he could get the Cambridge Audio 740 or 840c which have digital inputs. The 840c would batter the bd player ( as would the 740). If a DAC is not needed, the Rega Apollo is very well liked and you can get very good deals on the Arcam CD192.

That was my opinion, short stuff! Cambridge audio is rubbish. Rega apollo YES! Arcam is boring.

you obviously haven't heard the 840c then. It's a better cd player than the Rega, without doubt.

CA 840C @£750.00 (4 stars), Rega Apollo @£475.00 (5 stars). CA is over-rated and rubbish.

No offense but that is absolute rubbish. Are you just going on the one review or have you heard it?

 

[plastic penguin]

Gerrardasnails:Garland, I say again that you obviously haven't listened to the 840C and you obviously don't know how the star ratings work. The 840 has won numerous awards at a price range above the Rega.

I agree, Gerrard - unless you've heard the product, it's so easy to knock a brand. And WRONG! I won't say anymore, but it is irritating....

 

[Anonymous]

FrankTheTank:Garland Genoho:Gerrardasnails:Garland Genoho:Gerrardasnails:Garland Genoho:You cannot with the BT2500. Your set-up is very good....no budget cd will beat the sound you now enjoy.

I disagree. The amp if we use the rough estimate of av receiver at £1k is the equivalent to a £300 stereo amp for music, he has a decent £600 level stereo amp. The speakers are very nice and a budget bd player can easily be upped by a say, £300-500 cd player. If he is interested in using computer music and a DAC, he could get the Cambridge Audio 740 or 840c which have digital inputs. The 840c would batter the bd player ( as would the 740). If a DAC is not needed, the Rega Apollo is very well liked and you can get very good deals on the Arcam CD192.

That was my opinion, short stuff! Cambridge audio is rubbish. Rega apollo YES! Arcam is boring.

you obviously haven't heard the 840c then. It's a better cd player than the Rega, without doubt.

CA 840C @£750.00 (4 stars), Rega Apollo @£475.00 (5 stars). CA is over-rated and rubbish.

No offense but that is absolute rubbish. Are you just going on the one review or have you heard it?

I have owned the Rega Apollo. CA kit I've owned are CD4, CD5, 540C, 640c V1 & 2 - they were all rubbish. I have heard the 840C - not impressed. My cousin owns it and he has replaced it with a Rega Saturn which according to him, is 'night and day' with the 840C - so it's rubbish too.

 

[Anonymous]

plastic penguin:
Gerrardasnails:Garland, I say again that you obviously haven't listened to the 840C and you obviously don't know how the star ratings work. The 840 has won numerous awards at a price range above the Rega.

I agree, Gerrard - unless you've heard the product, it's so easy to knock a brand. And WRONG! I won't say anymore, but it is irritating....

No need to get irritated, short stuff. Take it easy. There's more to life than this forum.

 

[Anonymous]

Gerrardasnails:Garland, I say again that you obviously haven't listened to the 840C and you obviously don't know how the star ratings work. The 840 has won numerous awards at a price range above the Rega.

Warren, been there, done that. Not a great cd player by a huge margin.

 

[Anonymous]

i suspect the problem may be the 840c only shines with better components which is what other reviews indicate

 

[Anonymous]

one off:i suspect the problem may be the 840c only shines with better components which is what other reviews indicate

Yes, you may be right about this one.