Tidal stutters on phone trying to play highest quality

[gasolin]

Not about cables, about the fiio dac, because im gonna use no matter what, the cable attatched to my in ear headphones

 

[Al ears]

Not about cables, about the fiio dac, because im gonna use no matter what, the cable attatched to my in ear headphones

I assume then that you can switch your phones output from analogue to digital?

 

[gasolin]

I assume then that you can switch your phones output from analogue to digital?

Why would any need that option ?

Why would i do that, what's the point in doing that ?

I assume usb is digital

when i put a cable from a charger or my pc in to my phone, my phone gets charges, do i use my usb headphones it can send sound to my heaphones

Have no need to think about if my phone can do analog or digital out from the usb c it has

 

[Angle Poise-Lamp]

Why would any need that option ?

Because you might be driving IEMs directly with the phone, so will need an amplified analogue output or, sending a digital output to a DAC. Maybe that wouldn't apply to you but, it will to many people.

 

[gasolin]

analog out when usb is digital ?

 

[DCarmi]

Not about cables, about the fiio dac, because im gonna use no matter what, the cable attatched to my in ear headphones

Yup! That is what I do except Ifi DAC to Wired headphones. I can choose which of my headphones/earbuds I use, using the standard 3.5mm jack. I did try some USB headphones and wasn't that impressed but yours may have a better DAC built in.

In fairness, I wouldn't generally listen to lossless when out and about. Much of the music I listen to is already downloaded to my phone, about 50GB and a load more on my tablet. I haven't and probably won't upgrade the files to lossless because when on Wifi I stream and file size is about several times greater.

(Also the Spotify app, which is what I use , is not bit perfect so it gets pushed through the Android mixer anyway. 🙁)

 

[Vincent Kars]

analog out when usb is digital ?

Yes!
This is not about USB but about USB-C.
Android started with accessoire mode. This mode allows for sending analog audio over some of the 24 pins of this connector. All you need is a passive USB-C to female TRS.
Most of the mobiles use OTG. In this case, UAC2 (USB audio Class2) is send over the USB-C. This requires a DAC. The miniature USB dongles simply have a DAC inside the connector.

To the best of my (limited) Android knowledge, as a user you can't choose which mode to use.

 

[Angle Poise-Lamp]

This quote from Soundguys:

"Can you get analog audio over USB?
USB Type-C audio connections don’t actually have to be digital: you can actually get analog audio out, too. The USB standard also supports “Audio Accessory Mode”, whereby the D+/D- pins switch roles to support analog audio signals — again, this isn’t new to USB Type-C. Many phones with and without the new connector are designed to handle the negative voltage swing of the analog audio signal. Accessory Mode is popular with older USB audio dock devices, and the Android Open Accessory Protocol 2.0 with audio support has been around since Android 4.1."

How USB-C headphones work

USB Type-C headphones and dongles are increasingly common, but do you know the difference between active and passive products?

www.soundguys.com

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[Al ears]

Why would any need that option ?

Why would i do that, what's the point in doing that ?

I assume usb is digital

when i put a cable from a charger or my pc in to my phone, my phone gets charges, do i use my usb headphones it can send sound to my heaphones

Have no need to think about if my phone can do analog or digital out from the usb c it has

Just thinking if it doesn't you will be outputting an analogue signal into a dac, if it has already been through the dac in the phone.
If you plug wired headphones into your phone surely it assumes you want an analogue output?