Clare I would gladly email you the contact details at their press office if you need them tho I could get no direct contact for EIV.
The_Lhc
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the_lhc:Where's a John Williams soundtrack when you need one?
Usually filed under "Holst, Elgar and Wagner with a spot of Walton thrown in for good measure"...
Usually filed under "Holst, Elgar and Wagner with a spot of Walton thrown in for good measure"...
Andy Clough:Got our top Blu-ray reporter on the case now!
Cool. its just I find their excusess pathetic seeing as every where else in the world they get a Full 1080p/24pfs transfer.
Cool. its just I find their excusess pathetic seeing as every where else in the world they get a Full 1080p/24pfs transfer.
FYI, our intrepid reporter is also talking to the Blu-ray Disc Association etc to get their take on the issue...
Clare Newsome:FYI, our intrepid reporter is also talking to the Blu-ray Disc Association etc to get their take on the issue...
I will be very interested to see what their response is over this as IMHO the sooner their is a set-in-stone set of rules regarding BD packageing information the better for the consumer, as I am sure I am not the only one who thinks this is just not good enough!
I will be very interested to see what their response is over this as IMHO the sooner their is a set-in-stone set of rules regarding BD packageing information the better for the consumer, as I am sure I am not the only one who thinks this is just not good enough!
Well after a little more digging on my part and checking quite a few more EIV titles not a single one of them was @1080p/24 all being the same as the other titles and 1080i/50 so are EIV still saying that for all of the movies they release on BD that not a single one has a 1080p/24 master avalible from the production companys involved? yet other movies from New Line Cinema are all in 1080p/24 which is at the end of the day EIV's parent company (ultimatly all under the Warner company)
It's simlpy not good enough!
It's simlpy not good enough!
Hello all,
Thanks for your patience and apologies for the delay, but it's taken a while for me to have a proper conversation with Entertainment in Video (not their fault, I hasten to add). Anyway, I have some good news - an EiV spokesman has just confirmed to me that all of the company's future Blu-ray releases will be in full 1080p. Whether this is a direct result of this forum thread isn't confirmed, but either way, I reckon congratulations should go to D.J. KRIME for his efforts in bringing this to everyone's attention - a fight well-fought, sir.
As a side note, while talking to various people in the industry about this it has become quite clear that no single organisation has enough power to enforce a technical standard. Essentially it's up to individual studios to provide the picture resolution and soundtrack it feels is appropriate, so although you can't always guarantee you'll get 1080p, at least more and more studios are beginning to realise how important that is to us movie fans.
Thanks for your patience and apologies for the delay, but it's taken a while for me to have a proper conversation with Entertainment in Video (not their fault, I hasten to add). Anyway, I have some good news - an EiV spokesman has just confirmed to me that all of the company's future Blu-ray releases will be in full 1080p. Whether this is a direct result of this forum thread isn't confirmed, but either way, I reckon congratulations should go to D.J. KRIME for his efforts in bringing this to everyone's attention - a fight well-fought, sir.
As a side note, while talking to various people in the industry about this it has become quite clear that no single organisation has enough power to enforce a technical standard. Essentially it's up to individual studios to provide the picture resolution and soundtrack it feels is appropriate, so although you can't always guarantee you'll get 1080p, at least more and more studios are beginning to realise how important that is to us movie fans.
Well a Victory for the consumer! Thanks for backing me up on this one guys as I was merly getting brushed aside as one little voice but with IMHO the worlds best AV mag into the Mix and a victorious result!
I know EiV would never openly say they have changed their stance on how they author their BD software, and if they were to say anything it would be to make them look good and not say anything regarding outside presure from individuals/Forums/Magazines.
Generally speaking EiV were the only ones I have personally found to be omiting the actual picture resolution from their BD boxes so in my book this result is a good day for the consumer.
I know EiV would never openly say they have changed their stance on how they author their BD software, and if they were to say anything it would be to make them look good and not say anything regarding outside presure from individuals/Forums/Magazines.
Generally speaking EiV were the only ones I have personally found to be omiting the actual picture resolution from their BD boxes so in my book this result is a good day for the consumer.
nads
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Tom Parsons:
so although you can't always guarantee you'll get 1080p, at least more and more studios are beginning to realise how important that is to us movie fans.
not doing 1080p is shooting themselves in the foot. it should be the standard with 24fps the icing..
so along with there being no requirement for a HD sound track where is the reason to buy any HD discs?
so although you can't always guarantee you'll get 1080p, at least more and more studios are beginning to realise how important that is to us movie fans.
not doing 1080p is shooting themselves in the foot. it should be the standard with 24fps the icing..
so along with there being no requirement for a HD sound track where is the reason to buy any HD discs?
ElectroMan
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ElectroMan:
Surely it's up to Sony to enforce the standard?
IMHO I dont think Sony are at all bothered how others author their software as long as they are getting their cut.
Surely it's up to Sony to enforce the standard?
IMHO I dont think Sony are at all bothered how others author their software as long as they are getting their cut.
Andrew Everard:...And anyway it would be the Blu-ray Disc Association, surely...
Well yes it should be down to them but according to Tom Parsons they have no power to enforce any resolution standards or more importantly IMHO rules regarding BD packaging and lables upon it as if all BD software was clearly labeled with the exact resolution/sound formats/aspect ratio etc buy a set ofrules set by lets say the Blu-Raydisc association then until then the consumer can not be 100% sure exactly what they are getting.
Well yes it should be down to them but according to Tom Parsons they have no power to enforce any resolution standards or more importantly IMHO rules regarding BD packaging and lables upon it as if all BD software was clearly labeled with the exact resolution/sound formats/aspect ratio etc buy a set ofrules set by lets say the Blu-Raydisc association then until then the consumer can not be 100% sure exactly what they are getting.
ElectroMan
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Sorry, I thought Sony licensed the technology to others.
The Blu-ray Disc Association Licensing Office website has looks of interesting information (I particulary like the comments about the FAQ:
These are the questions frequently asked, so please refer to them before getting in contact with the Entity.
Unfortunately, it's extremely slow at the moment...
The Blu-ray Disc Association Licensing Office website has looks of interesting information (I particulary like the comments about the FAQ:
These are the questions frequently asked, so please refer to them before getting in contact with the Entity.
Unfortunately, it's extremely slow at the moment...
Yes you are right in that Sony sells a license to anyone who wishes to make either a BD player or BD movies much in the same way Phillips have done for years with CD, but I think it is at that point Sony loose interest in what ever the owner of the license does after that point, so if say the BBC wanted to put all the episodes of "Fools and Horses" onto BD discs but in SD I am sure Sony would not really care.
I like most on here understand that it is not possible for every BD to be at the optimum 1080p/24fps as this is down to the source material, so AFAIK if the source was shot on video the best we could hope for would be 1080p 50/60fps dependant upon if shot in PAL or NTSC but with a modern Movie there is absolutly no excuse for a BD not to be in 1080p/24 and carry HD sound.
I like most on here understand that it is not possible for every BD to be at the optimum 1080p/24fps as this is down to the source material, so AFAIK if the source was shot on video the best we could hope for would be 1080p 50/60fps dependant upon if shot in PAL or NTSC but with a modern Movie there is absolutly no excuse for a BD not to be in 1080p/24 and carry HD sound.
kena
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D.J.KRIME:
Andrew Everard:...And anyway it would be the Blu-ray Disc Association, surely...
Well yes it should be down to them but according to Tom Parsons they have no power to enforce any resolution standards or more importantly IMHO rules regarding BD packaging and lables upon it as if all BD software was clearly labeled with the exact resolution/sound formats/aspect ratio etc buy a set ofrules set by lets say the Blu-Raydisc association then until then the consumer can not be 100% sure exactly what they are getting.
So are they just surprise surprise another useless toothless Quango serving no real purpose.
Andrew Everard:...And anyway it would be the Blu-ray Disc Association, surely...
Well yes it should be down to them but according to Tom Parsons they have no power to enforce any resolution standards or more importantly IMHO rules regarding BD packaging and lables upon it as if all BD software was clearly labeled with the exact resolution/sound formats/aspect ratio etc buy a set ofrules set by lets say the Blu-Raydisc association then until then the consumer can not be 100% sure exactly what they are getting.
So are they just surprise surprise another useless toothless Quango serving no real purpose.
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