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An interesting video here on a point which many consumer audiophiles like to brush under the carpet.
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The Audio Cable Fraud (With Ethan Winer)
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manicm
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Cabling may be red herring, but I err towards superstition that my wallet will allow. So for HDMI I turn to the inexpensive Audioquest Pearl HDMI cable, and for hifi whereas before I used to turn to budget Chord stuff, I likely will turn to to Audioquest again.
They just give me a warm fuzzy feeling without emptying my account.
They just give me a warm fuzzy feeling without emptying my account.
I wouldnt give Audioquest or Chord Co any of my money. They are scammers.
GSV Ethics Gradient
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I'm moving this into the accessories section, where it belongs. Besides, all the world needs in these fractious times is yet another cable thread...
Cable threads are more important for people's bank accounts than you may think.
Al ears
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True, although those with vast bank accounts don't worry about cable threads...
Gray
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He meant they prevent some (otherwise normal) people from wasting their money.
Entrigo
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Love this.
Exact same reponse I got from my sound tech brother when I told him I had bought a £40 phono cable and a £40 mains conditioner 🤣. Wish I had known sooner but good that I did before I went on to buy new speaker cable and "upgrade" all my other interconnects...
F8lee
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Two things come to mind when I see these discussions about the wire scam stuff:
1 - when I managed a decent sized New Orleans photography store decades ago, we had to compete on price with the big mail order outfits on the prices of cameras and lenses, and since they purchased in much larger quantities and got better pricing than we did there was almost no profit on that $500 camera. However, by telling them that a clear filter is needed to "protect" the front lens element, we got the full 100% markup on the filter. Mind you, even back then I recall the Nikon rep showing us how hard the coating on the lens was by smushing out his cigarette on one and wiping it with a cloth, but convincing the customer that the UV filter was needed for protection worked 90% of the time.
2- numerous experiments have shown us that people are convinced that the beer poured from a colored bottle is better than the (identical) been poured form a clear bottle, or that (identical) wine absolutely tastes better or worse depending on the bottle in which it comes. For that matter, on Penn & Teller's wonderful show "********" they did an episode showing the nonsense of bottled water where patrons of a fancy restaurant where the "water sommelier" gave tastings of 5 different exotic waters, each with its own back story and fancy bottle and commented how this one tasted 'fresher' or 'mintier' or whatever - when in fact that 'sommelier filled all the bottled from the garden hose out back.
The point is, people are easily fooled when presented with "facts" in which they want to believe.
1 - when I managed a decent sized New Orleans photography store decades ago, we had to compete on price with the big mail order outfits on the prices of cameras and lenses, and since they purchased in much larger quantities and got better pricing than we did there was almost no profit on that $500 camera. However, by telling them that a clear filter is needed to "protect" the front lens element, we got the full 100% markup on the filter. Mind you, even back then I recall the Nikon rep showing us how hard the coating on the lens was by smushing out his cigarette on one and wiping it with a cloth, but convincing the customer that the UV filter was needed for protection worked 90% of the time.
2- numerous experiments have shown us that people are convinced that the beer poured from a colored bottle is better than the (identical) been poured form a clear bottle, or that (identical) wine absolutely tastes better or worse depending on the bottle in which it comes. For that matter, on Penn & Teller's wonderful show "********" they did an episode showing the nonsense of bottled water where patrons of a fancy restaurant where the "water sommelier" gave tastings of 5 different exotic waters, each with its own back story and fancy bottle and commented how this one tasted 'fresher' or 'mintier' or whatever - when in fact that 'sommelier filled all the bottled from the garden hose out back.
The point is, people are easily fooled when presented with "facts" in which they want to believe.
darch
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I know that power cable upgrades do work at least from a visual point of view, I bought my first LED screen TV 17 or 18 years ago, Sony with separate IEC mains cable, set it up with cable provided BBC 1 and ITV good picture, BBC 2 slightly veiled, ( this is pre digital 625 lines) channel 4 lines along the bottom of screen used fine tuning to clear, after a few weeks I swapped the cable witn a spare QED cable I had, BBC1 and ITV had brighter colour, veil lifted on BBC 2 and on channel 4 I had to remove all fine tuning for a good picture. Dave
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