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[abacus]

So how do you measure that. The spatial aspect, not tonal balance.

You cant as it doesn't exist except in the mind, however the more accurate the speakers the easier it will be to fool the brain, and this can be measured.

Bill

 

[davidf]

You cant as it doesn't exist except in the mind, however the more accurate the speakers the easier it will be to fool the brain, and this can be measured.

Bill

Ok.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

You cant as it doesn't exist except in the mind, however the more accurate the speakers the easier it will be to fool the brain, and this can be measured.

Bill

Where has the information that allows us to perceive depth of soundstage been measured? It's obviously in the 1s and 0s, but I can't imagine that's easily separated from the broad brush measurements.

 

[Jasonovich]

Where has the information that allows us to perceive depth of soundstage been measured? It's obviously in the 1s and 0s, but I can't imagine that's easily separated from the broad brush measurements.

They're using a small pebble to crack a walnut.
Measurements are for guidance only, but the indoctrination has reached biblical heights! 😄

 

[Gray]

So how do you measure that. The spatial aspect, not tonal balance.

Directional mics into the right equipment could certainly measure the VERY small time differences between each speaker.

If you then measured a different system you'd get different timings - which explains the different depth / width impressions you get from different systems.

Yes, the image relies on brains to make it.
But they can only make it due to differences from the speakers - and those differences can always be measured.

AS for the way different brains respond to the differences....maybe sensitive real-time brain imaging might one day show it??

 

[davidf]

If you then measured a different system you'd get different timings - which explains the different depth / width impressions you get from different systems.

Sorry, but this sound was obviously meant to move around the soundstage in the manner it does, so it's not a case of it won't do so because of the timings of a particular speaker. I get the whole thing about the brain being fooled, but when a speaker fails to recreate the depth of another speaker, you can't measure that.

 

[abacus]

Sorry, but this sound was obviously meant to move around the soundstage in the manner it does, so it's not a case of it won't do so because of the timings of a particular speaker. I get the whole thing about the brain being fooled, but when a speaker fails to recreate the depth of another speaker, you can't measure that.

Of course you can, measure each speaker and you will see the differences between them. (That's what makes the different perceptions the brain makes) Its not rocket science.

Bill

 

[davidf]

Of course you can, measure each speaker and you will see the differences between them. (That's what makes the different perceptions the brain makes) Its not rocket science.

Bill

So what measurement relates to the perceived depth of a sound coming from two loudspeakers?