Review of JPLay JCAT Products - USB Card, Battery Power Supply and USB Cable

[cheeseboy]

ps, I'm still interested to read about these facts which you claimed. Do you think you could supply them?

 

[ellisdj]

The audio pc you heard - how was it different to a normal pc?

lets start there

Also If I see and hear it its real to me - again that is all that is important to me - if that doesnt satisfy you then I a not sorry for the fact that does not bother me

 

[cheeseboy]

The audio pc you heard - how was it different to a normal pc?

lets start there

so let's get this right, loads of people ask you questions, you answer hardly any of them, deflect, make spurious claims with no backup and then expect me to answer your questions? Why should I?

I'll tell you what, because I'm fair, I'll answer you question then lets see if you have the grace to answer mine shall we.

The pc was passive cooled atom, running ssd, SL linear external psu connected to a cambridge audio dacmagic 100 over usb. OS was daphile. Then tried it with a bog standard pc I had lying around with windows 7 and foobar set to wasapi output. Any difference heard was minimal in the fact of echoic memory - ie when it was done bline neither of us can say which was which.

 

[cheeseboy]

Also If I see and hear it its real to me - again that is all that is important to me - if that doesnt satisfy you then I a not sorry for the fact that does not bother me

so do you accept that the changes you make and the hardware you change could all just be a placebo and be a result of expectation bias then?

 

[ellisdj]

fair play you did your testing and solved your answer - I wouldnt call that an optimised PC in anyway as all the same flaws would be evident on both PC's minus the power supply to be honest but there is no point going over that or going over anything related to this - its already boring to read and petty tit for tat.

I actually did a blind test of my own - I wont go into it - I sent 2 exact song files to my cousin and asked could he hear a difference between A and B and what was the difference. He said exactly what I thought was the difference - I was not even in the same side of the borough to him and did not say a word

That proved to me that there was something in what I was doing there so I am checking sanity along the way.

Either way I posted a link to a review, now have had to defend that review - pathetic.

I have made no real factual statements - I only speak for my experience and the experiences of others I have read. The fact the company like CAD is in bed with Harbeth for Bristol this year is interesting and I hope I get to go and hear that system - just hope the room is up to it in terms of acoustics to give it a fair demo

 

[cheeseboy]

fair play you did your testing and solved your answer - I wouldnt call that an optimised PC in anyway

well at least explain why.

as all the same flaws would be evident on both PC's minus the power supply to be honest but there is no point going over that or going over anything related to this - its already boring to read and petty tit for tat.

eh? You asked and I provided and now you're saying this. What is wrong with you?

I actually did a blind test of my own - I wont go into it - I sent 2 exact song files to my cousin and asked could he hear a difference between A and B and what was the difference. He said exactly what I thought was the difference - I was not even in the same side of the borough to him and did not say a word

would you care to be anymore vague instead of writing a load of nonsense? Did you try the audiodiffmaker test I suggested?

That proved to me that there was something in what I was doing there so I am checking sanity along the way.

proved what exactly? Or is it a secret, something that us non optimized pc's owners wouldn't understand?

Either way I posted a link to a review, now have had to defend that review - pathetic.

Correction - you *chose* to defend the review. Nobody asked you to, but you took it upon yourself.

I have made no real factual statements

ok, so it must have been another ellisdj that said this on the page beforehand...

You technically think they shouldnt work, same as sata cables - fact is they do

do you even read what you write?

I only speak for my experience and the experiences of others I have read.

so if you did read the hydrogen audio thread, then you would see that some others have had the opposite experience to you, so don't trot that line out.

I also notice that you failed to answer any questions again. Touche, do you work for Jplay as your tactics seem to be exactly the same as the ones they used in that thread - ie deflecting anything you couldn't answer and just saying that you have heard a difference so it must be true, why don't you try it etc... Sorry dude, you're full of rubbish. I've been polite, I've answered your questions yet you still refuse to answer mine or anybody elses. Says it all really. Just because somebody doesn't use rude words doesn't mean they aren't being a pain in the backside (ie your refusal to answer things yet expecting others to do so).

 

[ellisdj]

Your a joke - honestly and extremely vindictive. "Fact is they do" that is my opinion and I thought quite clear from what I had been writting its all my opinion but I dont scrutinise every word people write - this is a forum not a white paper or publication or trial

I dont work for Jplay but you could well work for someone who doesnt want them to have good press - I didnt ask or dont care, even if you did you can still have an opinion. I wanted them to have some free press because I think its earnt simple as that.

You take threads to stupid levels time and time again - I do think its you doing this as part of your job actually. And dont say I am doing this to stop people getting duped because that is actually not what your doing - there was no need for anyone to post what they did negatively in this thread to start with but here you go again

 

[cheeseboy]

Your a joke - honestly and extremely vindictive.

vindictive? What, because I asked a question, you didn't answer, I answered *your* questions, and yet you still can't have the grace to answer mine. No, that's just you being deflective. You say that system was not optimized and then don't give any reasons? really, do you have any idea how that comes across? Stop spitting your dummy out when you can't answer stuff, it's like dealing with a child.

"Fact is they do" that is my opinion and I thought quite clear from what I had been writting its all my opinion but I dont scrutinise every word people write - this is a forum not a white paper or publication or trial

when somebody write "fact is they do" what the hell are people meant to think? If it's not a fact, don't bloody say it is you numpty.

I dont work for Jplay but you could well work for someone who doesnt want them to have good press - I didnt ask or dont care, even if you did you can still have an opinion. I wanted them to have some free press because I think its earnt simple as that.

Even though I've never started any threads about jplay, and only commented about it on two threads, yet you continue to evangelisise about it and start threads about it, but no, I'm the one who doesn't want them to have good press and you don't work for them.... hmmmm.

You take threads to stupid levels time and time again

what, by asking questions, and giving an opposing view point? So are you saying when you post a thread we should all agree with you? Why is it stupid to ask questions, if anything the stupid ones are the ones that don't ask questions.

I do think its you doing this as part of your job actually

Please remove your tinfoil hat. Believing in hifi myths is one thing, but don't extend it to me.

And dont say I am doing this to stop people getting duped

i didn't and haven't...

because that is actually not what your doing

you know what they say about making assumptions don't you?

there was no need for anyone to post what they did negatively in this thread to start with but here you go again

why not? Is this the ellisdj forums? Should we all bow down to how you think threads should be carried out? Seriously, why not?

 

[John Duncan]

I haven't got time for this bollocks. Locking.

 

[Andy Clough]

OK, calm down everyone, let's cool it here. Calling people names and getting all uptight about these things doesn't help anyone. Thread locked.