Rega Elicit R

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Hi-FiOutlaw said:
I don't even know what to say...!

I do. It's called progression. However good it maybe there are other issues such as improved source, better speakers etc etc so on and so forth. That was the mistake (if you can call it a mistake) when buying the Leema - too much of a jump, hence why the upgrade of everything else has been pedestrian.
 

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Hi-FiOutlaw said:
I don't even know what to say...!

I just want my Rega Dealer to receive the first one!

I'm afraid of my self at this point... :?

Its on a different level!

The Elicit R really grips those RS5, the control when bass kicks in it, its just to die for, so cohesive, controlled and the soundstage.

Its a £1500 amp for christ sake, its scary - throughout all my 20's & 30s i really aspired to a £500 amp, with the likes of Cyrus 5, Straightline, MF XA1 - in my 40s now and I really aspiring to the Elicit it is that good and Im not even sure iI would even audition a Nait XS when the time came - I just love the Rega sound.......it gets on with playing music!
 
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Hi-FiOutlaw said:
I don't even know what to say...!

I just want my Rega Dealer to receive the first one!

I'm afraid of my self at this point... :?

Its on a different level!

The Elicit R really grips those RS5, the control when bass kicks in it, its just to die for, so cohesive, controlled and the soundstage.

Its a £1500 amp for christ sake, its scary - throughout all my 20's & 30s i really aspired to a £500 amp, with the likes of Cyrus 5, Straightline, MF XA1 - in my 40s now and I really aspiring to the Elicit it is that good and Im not even sure iI would even audition a Nait XS when the time came - I just love the Rega sound.......it gets on with playing music!

I've always said once you go over the £1000 threshold there's a distinct difference in quality. But to really make that sort of amp shine it needs Neat Momentum 3i or PMC Twenty 22 or something along those lines. If you have the dosh, not really an issue but if you haven't then...
 

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PP, I know what your saying!

Neat, PMC, Spendor are all worthy!

I need to put the Elicit R out of mind for a bit, but it has captivated me!
 
Hi-FiOutlaw said:
I don't even know what to say...!

I just want my Rega Dealer to receive the first one!

I'm afraid of my self at this point... :?

Hi Hi-FiOutlaw

You don't need to say anything. Just let the Elict-R do the talking :grin: The Elicit-R has soul :)

Btw, i am afraid of the dead solid build quality of the Elicit-R :twisted:

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft
 

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stevebrock said:
Well everything Rick@musiccraft has said about the Elicit R is spot on!

It really is a big authorative sound, Listened to an RP6/Exact throgh it with RS5 speakers!

The soundstage was huge, so much clairty and depth - it was simply stunning!

It was incredibly involving and actually made my hairs on my arms stand up.

Do I want one? YES

Can i afford one? NO

An hour later my missus came in to collect me to go and purchase some new Shoes.....she is a happy bunny tonight as she has gone out in them, kids gone to the parents - so a night in with a bottle of Rioja and put some records on! My Brio R is a cracking little amp still - love it!

Thanks for the initial impressions, Steve. I can't really afford one either but having been told repeatedly I'm probably not running enough power, i have been holding off upgrading my transport or springing for a TT for the last few months on the off chance that I'd either get a great deal on a used supernait or moon 340, or wait for the Elicit R and see if I would be tempted. if the elicit r lives up to the hype, its looking like my old nakamichi cd player and computer will end up continuing to be my sources for the next while.
 

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empacher said:
stevebrock said:
Well everything Rick@musiccraft has said about the Elicit R is spot on!

It really is a big authorative sound, Listened to an RP6/Exact throgh it with RS5 speakers!

The soundstage was huge, so much clairty and depth - it was simply stunning!

It was incredibly involving and actually made my hairs on my arms stand up.

Do I want one? YES

Can i afford one? NO

An hour later my missus came in to collect me to go and purchase some new Shoes.....she is a happy bunny tonight as she has gone out in them, kids gone to the parents - so a night in with a bottle of Rioja and put some records on! My Brio R is a cracking little amp still - love it!

Thanks for the initial impressions, Steve. I can't really afford one either but having been told repeatedly I'm probably not running enough power, i have been holding off upgrading my transport or springing for a TT for the last few months on the off chance that I'd either get a great deal on a used supernait or moon 340, or wait for the Elicit R and see if I would be tempted. if the elicit r lives up to the hype, its looking like my old nakamichi cd player and computer will end up continuing to be my sources for the next while.

Your DAC is a fine source!

The Elicit R has blown me away (again)

I would buy one today if I had the funds, would even bother listening to a Nait XS or Leema - I just love the sound of Rega!
 

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stevebrock said:
empacher said:
stevebrock said:
Well everything Rick@musiccraft has said about the Elicit R is spot on!

It really is a big authorative sound, Listened to an RP6/Exact throgh it with RS5 speakers!

The soundstage was huge, so much clairty and depth - it was simply stunning!

It was incredibly involving and actually made my hairs on my arms stand up.

Do I want one? YES

Can i afford one? NO

An hour later my missus came in to collect me to go and purchase some new Shoes.....she is a happy bunny tonight as she has gone out in them, kids gone to the parents - so a night in with a bottle of Rioja and put some records on! My Brio R is a cracking little amp still - love it!

Thanks for the initial impressions, Steve. I can't really afford one either but having been told repeatedly I'm probably not running enough power, i have been holding off upgrading my transport or springing for a TT for the last few months on the off chance that I'd either get a great deal on a used supernait or moon 340, or wait for the Elicit R and see if I would be tempted. if the elicit r lives up to the hype, its looking like my old nakamichi cd player and computer will end up continuing to be my sources for the next while.

Your DAC is a fine source!

The Elicit R has blown me away (again)

I would buy one today if I had the funds, would even bother listening to a Nait XS or Leema - I just love the sound of Rega!

look like i better start buttering up the wife. in addition to shoes, handbags work well too.
 

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You talk about Naim XS, did you ever demo it ?

I've demo Naim 5i mkI and II and didn't like the sound they produce, metalic and cold, not warm like Rega Brio R, they didn't captivated me.

More, I've demo the Dynaudios X12 the first time with a Naim NAC 252 and Naim NAP 200 or 300 and didn't like those as well! Naim is not for me, and the way you like Rega signature sound not for you either...

But if i decide to go down 1500€ amp road I've to put a very short list to demo and to compare the Elicit R with, so far I thought on:

- Exposure 3010S2

- Unison Research UNICO Primo

- Audio Analog Fortissimo

:cheers:
 
empacher said:
stevebrock said:
empacher said:
stevebrock said:
Well everything Rick@musiccraft has said about the Elicit R is spot on!

It really is a big authorative sound, Listened to an RP6/Exact throgh it with RS5 speakers!

The soundstage was huge, so much clairty and depth - it was simply stunning!

It was incredibly involving and actually made my hairs on my arms stand up.

Do I want one? YES

Can i afford one? NO

An hour later my missus came in to collect me to go and purchase some new Shoes.....she is a happy bunny tonight as she has gone out in them, kids gone to the parents - so a night in with a bottle of Rioja and put some records on! My Brio R is a cracking little amp still - love it!

Thanks for the initial impressions, Steve. I can't really afford one either but having been told repeatedly I'm probably not running enough power, i have been holding off upgrading my transport or springing for a TT for the last few months on the off chance that I'd either get a great deal on a used supernait or moon 340, or wait for the Elicit R and see if I would be tempted. if the elicit r lives up to the hype, its looking like my old nakamichi cd player and computer will end up continuing to be my sources for the next while.

Your DAC is a fine source!

The Elicit R has blown me away (again)

I would buy one today if I had the funds, would even bother listening to a Nait XS or Leema - I just love the sound of Rega!

look like i better start buttering up the wife. in addition to shoes, handbags work well too.

Hi empacher

In my experience a new kitchen works best :grin:

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft
 

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MUSICRAFT said:
empacher said:
stevebrock said:
empacher said:
stevebrock said:
Well everything Rick@musiccraft has said about the Elicit R is spot on!

It really is a big authorative sound, Listened to an RP6/Exact throgh it with RS5 speakers!

The soundstage was huge, so much clairty and depth - it was simply stunning!

It was incredibly involving and actually made my hairs on my arms stand up.

Do I want one? YES

Can i afford one? NO

An hour later my missus came in to collect me to go and purchase some new Shoes.....she is a happy bunny tonight as she has gone out in them, kids gone to the parents - so a night in with a bottle of Rioja and put some records on! My Brio R is a cracking little amp still - love it!

Thanks for the initial impressions, Steve. I can't really afford one either but having been told repeatedly I'm probably not running enough power, i have been holding off upgrading my transport or springing for a TT for the last few months on the off chance that I'd either get a great deal on a used supernait or moon 340, or wait for the Elicit R and see if I would be tempted. if the elicit r lives up to the hype, its looking like my old nakamichi cd player and computer will end up continuing to be my sources for the next while.

Your DAC is a fine source!

The Elicit R has blown me away (again)

I would buy one today if I had the funds, would even bother listening to a Nait XS or Leema - I just love the sound of Rega!

look like i better start buttering up the wife. in addition to shoes, handbags work well too.

Hi empacher

In my experience a new kitchen works best :grin:

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

Nice one. particularly because that hint has been dropped.

I have colleague at work who raises the bar like that. My wife and his wife... will never meet.

I've managed to keep an arrangement of direct proportionality (generally ;-))
 

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It is difficult (impossible) to judge an amplifier just by looking at it.

Still, I quickly studied the innards of the Elicit R and the power supply consists of just one pair of output devices per channel, around 10'000uf of capacitance/ch (the larger electrolytes are only 4100uf each) and a transformer which looks around 300 to 400va.

Whilst all this is enough to probably just about meet Rega's spec it is certainly not a power house and similar power can be found in £300 amps by Cambridge Audio etc.

Thats not to say it won't sound good. I would think that it will make a good match with Rega's efficient and easy load speakers, as was no doubt intended. - Synergy at work if Steve's impressions are anything to go by.

My first reaction was that £1500 seems a lot for what is offered but there is of course more to it than just sheer grunt. There is some thoughtful engineering evident. I also enjoyed the XS which has a very similar power supply but is rated at a conservative 60w/ch and there are other examples of low(ish) power, high performance amplifiers, Perreaux's entry model only being one of them.

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drummerman said:
It is difficult (impossible) to judge an amplifier just by looking at it.

Still, I quickly studied the innards of the Elicit R and the power supply consists of just one pair of output devices per channel, around 10'000uf of capacitance/ch (the larger electrolytes are only 4100uf each) and a transformer which looks around 300 to 400va.

Whilst all this is enough to probably just about meet Rega's spec it is certainly not a power house and similar power can be found in £300 amps by Cambridge Audio etc.

Can you link the picture you are using?

If it's this one then you are looking at the old Elicit (pic taken in 2010)...

http://www.rega.co.uk/product_images/ELICIT%20TRANSFORMER%20CLOSE%20UP.jpg
 

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Well it initially performs well, we're just waiting for the Nait XS2 to see how it will compare to one of the best sounding amps at this price point. And of course, to see how both deal with more demanding speakers than Rega's own. So far so good with the Spendor D7's.
 
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Well it initially performs well, we're just waiting for the Nait XS2 to see how it will compare to one of the best sounding amps at this price point. And of course, to see how both deal with more demanding speakers than Rega's own. So far so good with the Spendor D7's.

Don't all amps sound the same? :twisted: :shame:
 

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I really miss playing with hifi and should get my behind down to my local dealer but I am very happy with my system and I know box envy will probably set in if do (visit).

Things I would want to hear are Kef's LS50 with a Mcintosh amplifier, a top class phono stage and an SME with high quality cartridge. Would also like to see a before/after of a record cleaning machine.

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David@FrankHarvey said:
plastic penguin said:
stevebrock said:
I am quite interested in the phono stage part as heard Rega have made improvements to it so it should be better than the Brio R phono stage!

Excited!

Hang on! How do you compare phono stages when one amp costs £500 and the t'other is £1500?

Amps don't make a difference do they :grin: :p :roll:

(why are some smileys showing properly and some not?)

It all part of the charm of this forum - you never quite know what's going to work & what ain't :exmark:
 

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drummerman said:
Would also like to see a before/after of a record cleaning machine.

regards

My local second-hand record shop (I used it until I gave up vinyl a couple of years ago) has a twin deck Keith Monks cleaner (regularly replenished and maintained by KM themselves as they are local too).

I always had any purchases cleaned before leaving the shop (£2 an LP at the time with a brand new anti-stat sleeve thrown in).

I also used to take in any brand new LPs to have them cleaned before playing them.

The main difference was that I never experienced any static from the cleaned LPs. (Even after many plays.) In terms of appearance I would get rainbow colour reflections off the surfaces when moving the LP around near a light or a window. Before cleaning this rarely happened and the LP would look dull (even new ones).

I don't know about 'before and after' affects on sound quality because I never played a record until it had been cleaned.

The (very) few records that had any unwanted noises after cleaning were taken back. I didn't tolerate pops or clicks.
 

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David@FrankHarvey said:
plastic penguin said:
Don't all amps sound the same? :twisted: :shame:

Only to those whose minds are closed to the possibility :)

You aren't condoning the idea that amps should sound different surely?

The ideal (as I understand it) is that more money buys more power, better longevity/reliability, better build quality, lower distortion and closer component tolerances etc. but not fundamentally different characteristics in terms of sound.

I would hope that more expensive amps converge to an ideal (rather than diverge because of added 'seasoning').

There should only be a Rizla paper between the sound of two very expensive amps because the two manufacturers can demonstrate that they understand how to get as close to that 'ideal' as possible.

I would only expect some divergence between much cheaper designs that - by their nature - have to be compromised to some extent.
 

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