PROMETHEUS will knock our home theaters !!! (CONTAINS SPOILERS)

[strapped for cash]

Personally, I was less concerned with plotholes and seemingly implausible character motivations. (Surely these are problems with all narrative cinema to a greater or lesser degree?)

Rather, I was vexed by Lindelhof, Scott and co.'s ham-fisted grappling with complex subjects. Besides, Lindelhof hardly has a good track record when it comes to resolving difficult narrative problems of his own making, which doesn't bode well for the sequels.

As I say, Prometheus looked wonderful, but I found the film metaphysically/existentially hollow. Sorry, I'll stop now...

 

[6th.replicant]

Watched 2D version on BD last night, having seen 3D (ugghhh!) at cinema, and enjoyed it all the more. And, obv', it looks and sounds stunning.

Don't wish to be a smart ar*e, but still can't see any plot holes :?

Frst time round, didn't notice that when Milburn and Fifield find the pile of Engineer corpses, several have large puncture wounds in their foreheads...

Do wish the franchise would drop the obligatory 'annoying shouty man' in each film - ie, Parker, Hudson, Morse, Johner and Fifield. Very tedious.

In hindsight, don't think the casting director did a good job, there're two distinct 'vibes'/tiers of acting: grade-A - eg, Rapace, Fassbender, Theron, Elba, Elliott and Wong - and the remainder, all of whom seem like grads from the 'Casualty school'.

But, I'm very peeved that the 2D BD omits the 'making of' doc that's part of the 3D's package |( And film studios wonder why people resort to illegal downloads :doh:

 

[ellisdj]

Just watched the 2D version - good clean sound with good bass - not the ott thunderous unrealistic bass like in Battleship for example.

Good picture - however not reference or test by any means to my mind

Film was ok - better than expected after a lot of bad reports exept for the stupid slug like alien at the end that impregnated the human alien with the queen - they could have come up with something better for that.

Also I am pretty sure in Alien first one they find the ship with the dead alien still sitting at the - what looks like a large gun but is actually now we know the controls to fly the ship?

However he snufs it in the Promethius escape ship... ??

 

[ellisdj]

 

[v1c]

Also I am pretty sure in Alien first one they find the ship with the dead alien still sitting at the - what looks like a large gun but is actually now we know the controls to fly the ship?

However he snufs it in the Promethius escape ship... ??

Alien planet is LV426 and Prometheus is LV223. They are not the same lifeform.

 

[RickyDeg]

Also I am pretty sure in Alien first one they find the ship with the dead alien still sitting at the - what looks like a large gun but is actually now we know the controls to fly the ship?

However he snufs it in the Promethius escape ship... ??

Alien planet is LV426 and Prometheus is LV223. They are not the same lifeform.

+1

Seems very common nowadays for peope not to pay attention when watching films?

 

[professorhat]

The argument doesn't stand up when you cite examples where the original film was very highly regarded. If, say, Howard the Duck 2 had been made and was justifiably considered a masterpiece, your argument would be more persuasive.

Now just a minute there...

 

[ellisdj]

Also I am pretty sure in Alien first one they find the ship with the dead alien still sitting at the - what looks like a large gun but is actually now we know the controls to fly the ship?

However he snufs it in the Promethius escape ship... ??

Alien planet is LV426 and Prometheus is LV223. They are not the same lifeform.

+1

Seems very common nowadays for peope not to pay attention when watching films?

Thats a bit of a cheeky comment - especially to put it in italics - worthy of a slap - I was paying attention - just missed that detail.

 

[RickyDeg]

Also I am pretty sure in Alien first one they find the ship with the dead alien still sitting at the - what looks like a large gun but is actually now we know the controls to fly the ship?

However he snufs it in the Promethius escape ship... ??

Alien planet is LV426 and Prometheus is LV223. They are not the same lifeform.

+1

Seems very common nowadays for peope not to pay attention when watching films?

Thats a bit of a cheeky comment - especially to put it in italics - worthy of a slap - I was paying attention - just missed that detail.

It was kinda cheeky yes, and I stand by that but certainly didn't mean any harm Just astounded at the seemingly large number of folks I've heard confused by that somewhat significant and (to me) very obvious "detail" (obvious in more ways than one).

 

[GSB]

watched the it last night,what a pile of poo.

 

[Sizzers]

watched the it last night,what a pile of poo.

I wouldn't perhaps go quite that far but you are on the right track.

 

[BenLaw]

watched the it last night,what a pile of poo.

I wouldn't perhaps go quite that far but you are on the right track.

What's slightly smaller than a pile?

 

[Sizzers]

What's slightly smaller than a pile?

Well perhaps compare what a cow produces to let’s say a pig.

This could get seriously gross!

 

[v1c]

Funny smell in here all of a sudden :exmark:

 

[The_Lhc]

Finally saw Prometheus this morning, I can't see what people are getting so upset about (ok there were no Aliens in it, boo-hoo, get over it), perfectly passable sci-fi movie for me, just like the first three (yes, I like Alien3 and Resurrection is possibly the worst film I've ever seen).

The only plot hole I really noticed was the spaceship tech available in just 80 years time (although there's probably nothing they can do about that given the restriction of having to take place before Alien) and the flight time, the nearest star system is 4ly away, and there's no suggestion this is Proxima Centauri (it isn't, it's the wrong sort of star) and to get there in 2 years would mean travelling at twice the speed of light, so given this must be at least 8ly away, that's an issue, Ion drives could give an appreciable fraction of the speed of light, given enough acceleration time but it's still only a fraction, not multiples.

There are questions [SPOILER ALERT], if there are "many" other engineer ships on the planet, what happened to the engineers on those ships? Presumably all dead if Shaw can borrow a ship, but where are organisms that killed them and why won't they kill Shaw the same as they did the rest of the crew?

Other than that I enjoyed it, the pacing didn't bother me but then you're talking about someone who's favourite Star Trek film is The Motion Picture...

 

[bigboss]

Well said! I suppose the aliens must've aged & died, as the Engineers were killed 2000 years ago.

 

[The_Lhc]

Guh! That never even crossed my mind! But, having said that, why wouldn't they have flown away again in the meantime?

 

[bigboss]

My understanding is that the "aliens" were also the Engineers' own creation. That black goo forms the basis of life, & I think those snake-like aliens are in their basic form before their DNA gets spliced with another DNA (after they attack humans / engineers) when they transform into those ugly creatures.

The subsequent parts may shed some more light on this.

 

[Paul.]

The only plot hole I really noticed was the spaceship tech available in just 80 years time (although there's probably nothing they can do about that given the restriction of having to take place before Alien) and the flight time, the nearest star system is 4ly away, and there's no suggestion this is Proxima Centauri (it isn't, it's the wrong sort of star) and to get there in 2 years would mean travelling at twice the speed of light, so given this must be at least 8ly away, that's an issue, Ion drives could give an appreciable fraction of the speed of light, given enough acceleration time but it's still only a fraction, not multiples.

Pish. Everyone knows Zephram Cochrane develops the Warp Drive in 2063. That leaves them 20 years to double its speed...

 

[Anonymous]

The only plot hole I really noticed was the spaceship tech available in just 80 years time (although there's probably nothing they can do about that given the restriction of having to take place before Alien) and the flight time, the nearest star system is 4ly away, and there's no suggestion this is Proxima Centauri (it isn't, it's the wrong sort of star) and to get there in 2 years would mean travelling at twice the speed of light, so given this must be at least 8ly away, that's an issue, Ion drives could give an appreciable fraction of the speed of light, given enough acceleration time but it's still only a fraction, not multiples.

You weren't paying much attention then. Don't get me wrong, I liked the movie, but there are way too many holes to be filled. :roll:

 

[The_Lhc]

Fill me in then, I can't be bothered to read the entire thread.

 

[the record spot]

Fill me in then, I can't be bothered to read the entire thread.

Basically, some of the girls are getting theirs in a bunch because Ridley didn't rehash what he did over 30 years ago, they couldn't suspend their imagination, bitched senseless about it for months, then when they find that it's getting a decent rating on sites like Rotten Tomatoes (where they know their onions) and others on here are talking it up, rant on like Maxflinn on a cable snarkfest. Well, maybe not that bad, but you get the gist. Probably doesn't help that there's a pile of us on here that like the film and think it's a worthy addition to the line.

 

[bigboss]

Probably doesn't help that there's a pile of us on here that like the film and think it's a worthy addition to the line.

Agreed.

 

[lxd55]

Looks like Prometheus2 is set for 2015, http://www.prometheus2-movie.com/

also saw the trailer for 300: rise of an empire last night- looking forward to seeing that next year