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Fuk yeah! Turtle knows his stuff.

Hi Fi Mains Leads - Russ Andrews PowerKord 100
I was looking for a video that showed what speakers he has to see if they're as tragically bad as his plasticky Marantz TT and woolly Nad amp when I came across this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEh8N-eCbSk

Made me laugh out loud when he treated the label side only.

Tututle deserves his own thread where we can discuss which of his videos are our favourites.

I too find his channel an amazing source of practical, sane and logical advice.

Whats the name of that other guy that i enjoyed so much reviewing the boom boxes?
Hes great
 

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Andrewjvt said:
Vladimir said:
lindsayt said:
Vladimir said:
Fuk yeah! Turtle knows his stuff.

Hi Fi Mains Leads - Russ Andrews PowerKord 100
I was looking for a video that showed what speakers he has to see if they're as tragically bad as his plasticky Marantz TT and woolly Nad amp when I came across this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEh8N-eCbSk

Made me laugh out loud when he treated the label side only.

Tututle deserves his own thread where we can discuss which of his videos are our favourites.

I too find his channel an amazing source of practical, sane and logical advice.

Whats the name of that other guy that i enjoyed so much reviewing the boom boxes? Hes great

Here you go.
 

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I think he only has these + a headphone setup with a Denon desk head amp.

He stuffed Kimber cables to the Logitech speaker spring clips! I'm tearing up! *lol*

They are now officially studio grade quality!

FFS

When he plugged the kimber into the tacima
 

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Vladimir said:
Andrewjvt said:
Vladimir said:
lindsayt said:
Vladimir said:
Fuk yeah! Turtle knows his stuff.

Hi Fi Mains Leads - Russ Andrews PowerKord 100
I was looking for a video that showed what speakers he has to see if they're as tragically bad as his plasticky Marantz TT and woolly Nad amp when I came across this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEh8N-eCbSk

Made me laugh out loud when he treated the label side only.

Tututle deserves his own thread where we can discuss which of his videos are our favourites.

I too find his channel an amazing source of practical, sane and logical advice.

Whats the name of that other guy that i enjoyed so much reviewing the boom boxes? Hes great

Here you go. 

Lekker thanks
 

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It was only one member....and he only produced the list because he was specifically asked to. Pride didn't come into it....if he hadn't backed up his claim, he would have been accused of bluffing.
It doesn't matter what you do on forums, you'll be accused of something or other. I was impressed you came up with the requested list too, I'm guessing the 'askee' didn't expect a reply :)
 

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lindsayt said:
Vladimir said:
Fuk yeah! Turtle knows his stuff.

Hi Fi Mains Leads - Russ Andrews PowerKord 100
I was looking for a video that showed what speakers he has to see if they're as tragically bad as his plasticky Marantz TT and woolly Nad amp when I came across this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEh8N-eCbSk

Made me laugh out loud when he treated the label side only.

Tututle deserves his own thread where we can discuss which of his videos are our favourites.
I can't believe he spent more on Russ Andrews cables than his amp and turntable combined, including taking the time to replace the captive mains cables with IEC sockets. But fair play to him, he's taken the time to listen, come to his own conclusions, and posted it for all to benefit from.

If I was him, I'd have just tried a couple to exoensive cables against a basic one (just in case one of the expensive ones was just "jewellery"), rather than messing around with ones that are one step up price wise from the freebies.
 

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That all these special cable manufacturers seem only to prey on audiophiles...

Howcome they dont get it right with professionals?

Its a joke man
Maybe recording music requires very different parameters than audiophile listening. Like the video showing how record producers use "worse" speakers than they could, because the higher end ones make the recording sound rubbish (which they are in reality), but 99% of listeners are using cheap gear to listen on, and so the recording has to match the final output stage. Maybe this is why studios don't bother with high end cables, because even if they did make a difference, the final listener wouldn't appreciate it, and it could even make the recording sound worse.

Hi mate

Go back.about 30 - 50 posts a few members were very proud of themselves for pointing out a few studios using hiend special cables.
Well i guess that's good to hear. In an ideal world i guess the studios and listener's would be using the same equipment, from cables to speakers.
Edit: high end components,all round.
 

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CnoEvil said:
It was only one member....and he only produced the list because he was specifically asked to. Pride didn't come into it....if he hadn't backed up his claim, he would  have been accused of bluffing.
It doesn't matter what you do on forums, you'll be accused of something or other. I was impressed you came up with the requested list too, I'm guessing the 'askee' didn't expect a reply :)

No one had or has accused anyone of anything. Cno sent quite a lot of other forum links without any reference to which post to look in so other than read the whole lot tou could not find it.
So far all ive read was the marketing endorsement.
 

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No one had or has accused anyone of anything. Cno sent quite a lot of other forum links without any reference to which post to look in so other than read the whole lot tou could not find it. So far all ive read was the marketing endorsement.
Well they're hardly going to be reviewing them are they? All they're doing is stating what they use and endorse. It's not like a footballer endorsing some shampoo... :)

I'm not saying anyone has accused anyone of anything in this thread, just stating a generality that it doesn't matter what your opinion is on whatever subject, there will always be someone on the forum to spin things the opposite way or to 'challenge' opinions, despite individuals having a right to hold their own opinions.
 

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Andrewjvt said:
davidf said:
CnoEvil said:
It was only one member....and he only produced the list because he was specifically asked to. Pride didn't come into it....if he hadn't backed up his claim, he would have been accused of bluffing.
It doesn't matter what you do on forums, you'll be accused of something or other. I was impressed you came up with the requested list too, I'm guessing the 'askee' didn't expect a reply :)

No one had or has accused anyone of anything. Cno sent quite a lot of other forum links without any reference to which post to look in so other than read the whole lot tou could not find it. So far all ive read was the marketing endorsement.

You do however seem to be ignoring this...

http://www.studioconnections.co.uk/professional-recommendation.html
 

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With regards to mains cables, I would say it is something you need to try. I wouldn't say that just any specialist mains cable will make a difference, and it depends on the system in question as to whether any difference will be heard or be of any benefit. I remember when I was working at Superfi in Birmingham, I borrowed a specialist mains cable (about £110 worth) from a Derby based person who was manager of the Superfi branch in Derby, who was well into cables at that point...

No blind test, but it made a difference plugged into the Tag pre-amp. My system at the time was a Pioneer DV737 digital source, Tag AV32R 192, Bryston 3Bst, KEF Reference 4.2.
 

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Andrewjvt said:
Cno sent quite a lot of other forum links without any reference to which post to look in so other than read the whole lot tou could not find it. So far all ive read was the marketing endorsement.

Only one of the seven links was a forum one....and it is a total guess as to whether the endorsements were genuinely held opinions, or not (and one's view on that will be be determined by one's stance on cables).
 

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Gazzip said:
Andrewjvt said:
davidf said:
CnoEvil said:
It was only one member....and he only produced the list because he was specifically asked to. Pride didn't come into it....if he hadn't backed up his claim, he would have been accused of bluffing.
It doesn't matter what you do on forums, you'll be accused of something or other. I was impressed you came up with the requested list too, I'm guessing the 'askee' didn't expect a reply :)

No one had or has accused anyone of anything. Cno sent quite a lot of other forum links without any reference to which post to look in so other than read the whole lot tou could not find it. So far all ive read was the marketing endorsement.

You do however seem to be ignoring this...

http://www.studioconnections.co.uk/professional-recommendation.html
Hi,

My response to this was, a studio professional selling a cable he designed and had made to his friends (studio professionals) - are you sure there is no conflict of interest - given that some of these cables cost £1,900 per metre - sold as £3,800 per 2 metres.

If you check the designer of the cable - engineering degree - and check his company - Studio Connections - he has a divorce to pay for. This is circumstantial evidence - he was married to the secretary of Studio Connections (marriage as listed on findmypast - 1990) - she resigned as secretary of the company, and they have listed their own addresses (companies house listing).

If one were cynical - then this exorbitantly priced cable is to pay for the divorce, and he has his "mates" endorsing the products.

Never accept something at face value.

Regards,

Shadders.
 

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So my understanding of theses power cables and what they do different from a standard power cable is they have heavy shielding to stop RF interference as a standard power lead acts as a antenna and picks up radio waves from things like routes which interfere with the electrical signals which pass into the amplifier then on to your speakers . Is this correct
 

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shadders said:
Gazzip said:
Andrewjvt said:
davidf said:
CnoEvil said:
It was only one member....and he only produced the list because he was specifically asked to. Pride didn't come into it....if he hadn't backed up his claim, he would have been accused of bluffing.
It doesn't matter what you do on forums, you'll be accused of something or other. I was impressed you came up with the requested list too, I'm guessing the 'askee' didn't expect a reply :)

No one had or has accused anyone of anything. Cno sent quite a lot of other forum links without any reference to which post to look in so other than read the whole lot tou could not find it. So far all ive read was the marketing endorsement.

You do however seem to be ignoring this...

http://www.studioconnections.co.uk/professional-recommendation.html
Hi,

My response to this was, a studio professional selling a cable he designed and had made to his friends (studio professionals) - are you sure there is no conflict of interest - given that some of these cables cost £1,900 per metre - sold as £3,800 per 2 metres.

If you check the designer of the cable - engineering degree - and check his company - Studio Connections - he has a divorce to pay for. This is circumstantial evidence - he was married to the secretary of Studio Connections (marriage as listed on findmypast - 1990) - she resigned as secretary of the company, and they have listed their own addresses (companies house listing).

If one were cynical - then this exorbitantly priced cable is to pay for the divorce, and he has his "mates" endorsing the products.

Never accept something at face value.

Regards,

Shadders.

Wow. You really don't want to believe any of this now do you.

If he/she reads this I trust you will enjoy your day in court!
 

shadders

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Gazzip said:
shadders said:
Gazzip said:
Andrewjvt said:
davidf said:
CnoEvil said:
It was only one member....and he only produced the list because he was specifically asked to. Pride didn't come into it....if he hadn't backed up his claim, he would have been accused of bluffing.
It doesn't matter what you do on forums, you'll be accused of something or other. I was impressed you came up with the requested list too, I'm guessing the 'askee' didn't expect a reply :)

No one had or has accused anyone of anything. Cno sent quite a lot of other forum links without any reference to which post to look in so other than read the whole lot tou could not find it. So far all ive read was the marketing endorsement.

You do however seem to be ignoring this...

http://www.studioconnections.co.uk/professional-recommendation.html
Hi,

My response to this was, a studio professional selling a cable he designed and had made to his friends (studio professionals) - are you sure there is no conflict of interest - given that some of these cables cost £1,900 per metre - sold as £3,800 per 2 metres.

If you check the designer of the cable - engineering degree - and check his company - Studio Connections - he has a divorce to pay for. This is circumstantial evidence - he was married to the secretary of Studio Connections (marriage as listed on findmypast - 1990) - she resigned as secretary of the company, and they have listed their own addresses (companies house listing).

If one were cynical - then this exorbitantly priced cable is to pay for the divorce, and he has his "mates" endorsing the products.

Never accept something at face value.

Regards,

Shadders.

Wow. You really don't want to believe any of this now do you.

If he/she reads this I trust you will enjoy your day in court!
Hi,

Why - i said it was circumstantial. Marriage is fact on findmypast.

Regards,

Shadders.
 

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shadders said:
Gazzip said:
shadders said:
Gazzip said:
Andrewjvt said:
davidf said:
CnoEvil said:
It was only one member....and he only produced the list because he was specifically asked to. Pride didn't come into it....if he hadn't backed up his claim, he would have been accused of bluffing.
It doesn't matter what you do on forums, you'll be accused of something or other. I was impressed you came up with the requested list too, I'm guessing the 'askee' didn't expect a reply :)

No one had or has accused anyone of anything. Cno sent quite a lot of other forum links without any reference to which post to look in so other than read the whole lot tou could not find it. So far all ive read was the marketing endorsement.

You do however seem to be ignoring this...

http://www.studioconnections.co.uk/professional-recommendation.html
Hi,

My response to this was, a studio professional selling a cable he designed and had made to his friends (studio professionals) - are you sure there is no conflict of interest - given that some of these cables cost £1,900 per metre - sold as £3,800 per 2 metres.

If you check the designer of the cable - engineering degree - and check his company - Studio Connections - he has a divorce to pay for. This is circumstantial evidence - he was married to the secretary of Studio Connections (marriage as listed on findmypast - 1990) - she resigned as secretary of the company, and they have listed their own addresses (companies house listing).

If one were cynical - then this exorbitantly priced cable is to pay for the divorce, and he has his "mates" endorsing the products.

Never accept something at face value.

Regards,

Shadders.

Wow. You really don't want to believe any of this now do you.

If he/she reads this I trust you will enjoy your day in court!
Hi,

Why - i said it was circumstantial. Marriage is fact on findmypast.

Regards,

Shadders.

So circumstantial will now do? I thought you were all about EVIDENCE. Sad. Very sad.
 

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shadders said:
If you check the designer of the cable - engineering degree - and check his company - Studio Connections - he has a divorce to pay for. This is circumstantial evidence - he was married to the secretary of Studio Connections (marriage as listed on findmypast - 1990) - she resigned as secretary of the company, and they have listed their own addresses (companies house listing).

If one were cynical - then this exorbitantly priced cable is to pay for the divorce, and he has his "mates" endorsing the products.

Never accept something at face value.

Regards,

Shadders.
*lol*
 

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If we are taking people's pasts into account, that opens up a few past threads...most people are paying for divorces, but that doesn't mean they've created companies/products to do that!
 

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Gazzip said:
shadders said:
Gazzip said:
shadders said:
Gazzip said:
Andrewjvt said:
davidf said:
CnoEvil said:
It was only one member....and he only produced the list because he was specifically asked to. Pride didn't come into it....if he hadn't backed up his claim, he would have been accused of bluffing.
It doesn't matter what you do on forums, you'll be accused of something or other. I was impressed you came up with the requested list too, I'm guessing the 'askee' didn't expect a reply :)

No one had or has accused anyone of anything. Cno sent quite a lot of other forum links without any reference to which post to look in so other than read the whole lot tou could not find it. So far all ive read was the marketing endorsement.

You do however seem to be ignoring this...

http://www.studioconnections.co.uk/professional-recommendation.html
Hi,

My response to this was, a studio professional selling a cable he designed and had made to his friends (studio professionals) - are you sure there is no conflict of interest - given that some of these cables cost £1,900 per metre - sold as £3,800 per 2 metres.

If you check the designer of the cable - engineering degree - and check his company - Studio Connections - he has a divorce to pay for. This is circumstantial evidence - he was married to the secretary of Studio Connections (marriage as listed on findmypast - 1990) - she resigned as secretary of the company, and they have listed their own addresses (companies house listing).

If one were cynical - then this exorbitantly priced cable is to pay for the divorce, and he has his "mates" endorsing the products.

Never accept something at face value.

Regards,

Shadders.

Wow. You really don't want to believe any of this now do you.

If he/she reads this I trust you will enjoy your day in court!
Hi,

Why - i said it was circumstantial. Marriage is fact on findmypast.

Regards,

Shadders.

So circumstantial will now do? I thought you were all about EVIDENCE. Sad. Very sad.
Hi,

As i said - circumstantial. I also said if you were cynical. The rest - marriage, resignation of the secretary, different addresses of each - is fact - findmypast and companies house. Is there a divorce to pay for - probably - when you get divorced the majority of cases the mother gets the kids, and they cost money.

As i said circumstantial - but you do need to examine why a cable costs £3,800 per 2 metres - and you presented it as evidence that studios endorse cables.

I at least have done some research about the cable (technical responses from me earlier) and why a sound professional decided to design a have manufactured a cable, which is endorsed by his colleagues.

Why would a sound professional decide to manufacture a cable at £1,900 per metre, where you have to buy at least 2 metres at £3,800 ???

As i said never accept anything at face value. You too could investigate these areas rather than just offer it as EVIDENCE (as you put it) without any thought.

Regards,

Shadders,
 

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shadders said:
Gazzip said:
shadders said:
Gazzip said:
shadders said:
Gazzip said:
Andrewjvt said:
davidf said:
CnoEvil said:
It was only one member....and he only produced the list because he was specifically asked to. Pride didn't come into it....if he hadn't backed up his claim, he would have been accused of bluffing.
It doesn't matter what you do on forums, you'll be accused of something or other. I was impressed you came up with the requested list too, I'm guessing the 'askee' didn't expect a reply :)

No one had or has accused anyone of anything. Cno sent quite a lot of other forum links without any reference to which post to look in so other than read the whole lot tou could not find it. So far all ive read was the marketing endorsement.

You do however seem to be ignoring this...

http://www.studioconnections.co.uk/professional-recommendation.html
Hi,

My response to this was, a studio professional selling a cable he designed and had made to his friends (studio professionals) - are you sure there is no conflict of interest - given that some of these cables cost £1,900 per metre - sold as £3,800 per 2 metres.

If you check the designer of the cable - engineering degree - and check his company - Studio Connections - he has a divorce to pay for. This is circumstantial evidence - he was married to the secretary of Studio Connections (marriage as listed on findmypast - 1990) - she resigned as secretary of the company, and they have listed their own addresses (companies house listing).

If one were cynical - then this exorbitantly priced cable is to pay for the divorce, and he has his "mates" endorsing the products.

Never accept something at face value.

Regards,

Shadders.

Wow. You really don't want to believe any of this now do you.

If he/she reads this I trust you will enjoy your day in court!
Hi,

Why - i said it was circumstantial. Marriage is fact on findmypast.

Regards,

Shadders.

So circumstantial will now do? I thought you were all about EVIDENCE. Sad. Very sad.
Hi,

As i said - circumstantial. I also said if you were cynical. The rest - marriage, resignation of the secretary, different addresses of each - is fact - findmypast and companies house. Is there a divorce to pay for - probably - when you get divorced the majority of cases the mother gets the kids, and they cost money.

As i said circumstantial - but you do need to examine why a cable costs £3,800 per 2 metres - and you presented it as evidence that studios endorse cables.

I at least have done some research about the cable (technical responses from me earlier) and why a sound professional decided to design a have manufactured a cable, which is endorsed by his colleagues.

Why would a sound professional decide to manufacture a cable at £1,900 per metre, where you have to buy at least 2 metres at £3,800 ???

As i said never accept anything at face value. You too could investigate these areas rather than just offer it as EVIDENCE (as you put it) without any thought.

Regards,

Shadders,

I am a professional. I would not publicly endorse a product without being sure it was worthy of endorsement. These professionals did endorse Studio Connections cables and yet you suggest they are lying. You have just made yourself entirely implausible.
 

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Gazzip said:
Andrewjvt said:
davidf said:
CnoEvil said:
It was only one member....and he only produced the list because he was specifically asked to. Pride didn't come into it....if he hadn't backed up his claim, he would  have been accused of bluffing.
It doesn't matter what you do on forums, you'll be accused of something or other. I was impressed you came up with the requested list too, I'm guessing the 'askee' didn't expect a reply :)

No one had or has accused anyone of anything. Cno sent quite a lot of other forum links without any reference to which post to look in so other than read the whole lot tou could not find it. So far all ive read was the marketing endorsement.

You do however seem to be ignoring this...

http://www.studioconnections.co.uk/professional-recommendation.html

Are they talking about

What product exactly are they talking about??

I do know that all electronics do use some form of cables
 

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I at least have done some research about the cable (technical responses from me earlier) and why a sound professional decided to design a have manufactured a cable, which is endorsed by his colleagues.
Maybe the original owner of BT created the company because of a costly divorce? And before you start investigating me, my divorce is all paid up and done with.
 

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shadders said:
Gazzip said:
shadders said:
Gazzip said:
shadders said:
Gazzip said:
Andrewjvt said:
davidf said:
CnoEvil said:
It was only one member....and he only produced the list because he was specifically asked to. Pride didn't come into it....if he hadn't backed up his claim, he would have been accused of bluffing.
It doesn't matter what you do on forums, you'll be accused of something or other. I was impressed you came up with the requested list too, I'm guessing the 'askee' didn't expect a reply :)

No one had or has accused anyone of anything. Cno sent quite a lot of other forum links without any reference to which post to look in so other than read the whole lot tou could not find it. So far all ive read was the marketing endorsement.

You do however seem to be ignoring this...

http://www.studioconnections.co.uk/professional-recommendation.html
Hi,

My response to this was, a studio professional selling a cable he designed and had made to his friends (studio professionals) - are you sure there is no conflict of interest - given that some of these cables cost £1,900 per metre - sold as £3,800 per 2 metres.

If you check the designer of the cable - engineering degree - and check his company - Studio Connections - he has a divorce to pay for. This is circumstantial evidence - he was married to the secretary of Studio Connections (marriage as listed on findmypast - 1990) - she resigned as secretary of the company, and they have listed their own addresses (companies house listing).

If one were cynical - then this exorbitantly priced cable is to pay for the divorce, and he has his "mates" endorsing the products.

Never accept something at face value.

Regards,

Shadders.

Wow. You really don't want to believe any of this now do you.

If he/she reads this I trust you will enjoy your day in court!
Hi,

Why - i said it was circumstantial. Marriage is fact on findmypast.

Regards,

Shadders.

So circumstantial will now do? I thought you were all about EVIDENCE. Sad. Very sad.
Hi,

As i said - circumstantial. I also said if you were cynical. The rest - marriage, resignation of the secretary, different addresses of each - is fact - findmypast and companies house. Is there a divorce to pay for - probably - when you get divorced the majority of cases the mother gets the kids, and they cost money.

As i said circumstantial - but you do need to examine why a cable costs £3,800 per 2 metres - and you presented it as evidence that studios endorse cables.

I at least have done some research about the cable (technical responses from me earlier) and why a sound professional decided to design a have manufactured a cable, which is endorsed by his colleagues.

Why would a sound professional decide to manufacture a cable at £1,900 per metre, where you have to buy at least 2 metres at £3,800 ???

As i said never accept anything at face value. You too could investigate these areas rather than just offer it as EVIDENCE (as you put it) without any thought.

Regards,

Shadders,

I am a professional. I would not publicly endorse a product without being sure it was worthy of endorsement. These professionals did endorse Studio Connections cables and yet you suggest they are lying. You have just made yourself entirely implausible.

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Which is a shame by the way, because up until now your objective "knowledge" has been welcome to me. However your are clearly more susceptible to spouting your own supposition than I thought, so I don't know what to think now.
 

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