Mission complete

[alchemist 1]

Purchased a speaker that really ticks all the boxes for me, full of detail, clean powerful base,
easy to position, attractive design ( IMO), handle power easily ,quality build and finish.
So addictive to listen too.

Yes they are expensive but you only get what you pay for, but they end my search for Hi fi Nirvana.
They being the Mission 770 speakers.

I'm still running them in, so are still to reach their full potential even though they are sounding supreme already.
They do really meet all the reviews praises.

Anyone else been fortunate the hear the Missions.

 

[Integralista]

Hi, Congrats!
Which system is now happy to drive them in your home? BR.

 

[nopiano]

Are those the latest models, the ones that reimagined the original designs of forty years ago, or however long ago? Very nice!

Peter Comeau has a great skill with his designs, and these have that classic ‘two cubic foot’ look that so many British brands have used over the years. That said, your Missions are quite different to, say, the new Wharfedale Linton or Super Lintons.

I’ve not heard them more than fleetingly at a show. Will you leave the grilles off to display the unique finish?

 

[alchemist 1]

I'm using Yamaha's AS-2000 amp & matching 2000 CD player.

These are the latest models, I demoed Linton and super Linton, both very good speakers in their own right
but a very different sound from either one.

Once I tried the 770's that was it totally different level, a very natural sound.
I hadn't planned to spend that much , but managed to get a good deal on them.
On reflection I'm very pleased I took the plunge.
The white frontage is quite impressive, I refit grills when not in use.

Highly recommend anyone to grab a chance to listen too the Mission's

 

[nopiano]

Once I tried the 770's that was it totally different level, a very natural sound.
I hadn't planned to spend that much , but managed to get a good deal on them.
On reflection I'm very pleased I took the plunge.

I’m sure you won’t regret it. Congratulations on your purchase!

 

[alchemist 1]

On one aspect of my new acquisition, how many hours would be expected for a new speaker to be fully burnt
in and performing at their optimum ?

 

[Gray]

On one aspect of my new acquisition, how many hours would be expected for a new speaker to be fully burnt
in and performing at their optimum ?

I really wouldn't worry too much about 'burn in'.
I've said it too many times, but I reckon brain burn-in is much more of a thing - when people have been used to a different type of sound (sometimes over decades).

If you're really bothered you could ask Mission themselves.

 

[Hal9001]

On one aspect of my new acquisition, how many hours would be expected for a new speaker to be fully burnt
in and performing at their optimum ?

About 5 minutes. 4.8minutes of which is just gravy.

 

[nopiano]

I really wouldn't worry too much about 'burn in'.
I've said it too many times, but I reckon brain burn-in is much more of a thing - when people have been used to a different type of sound (sometimes over decades).

If you're really bothered you could ask Mission themselves.

Yes, I think WHF posted a video about this in the last few months, and Peter Comeau was amongst the experts they talked to. I'll see if I can find it! @alchemist 1

Here it is...

Ask The Industry: hi-fi engineers weigh in on the value of 'running-in'

A priceless or pointless exercise?

www.whathifi.com

 

[alchemist 1]

Thank you Nopiano for the post on speaker break in.

It wasn't a concern of mine as I've noticed the change in previous speakers I have acquired .
It was a general question of other peoples observations, which the supplied post seems to answer
quite thoroughly from the manufactures point of view.

 

[nopiano]

Thank you Nopiano for the post on speaker break in.

It wasn't a concern of mine as I've noticed the change in previous speakers I have acquired .
It was a general question of other peoples observations, which the supplied post seems to answer
quite thoroughly from the manufactures point of view.

My experience is mostly of speakers kept in a cold stock room (when I worked parttime in a Hifi shop in the 1970-80s); or purchased and driven home in a cold car boot/trunk in the winter months; and of my own speakers at home which I occasionally rotate (I currently have five pairs - oops!), where they can sound ‘stiff’ after a few months of lying idle.

24 hours at warm room temperature is ideal, for new or used speakers. And possibly a few hours use when brand new. Depends on the manufacturer though - ATC run every drive unit at full blast after fabrication, so they didn’t seem to need any more running in. 🙂

 

[Witterings]

Yes, I think WHF posted a video about this in the last few months, and Peter Comeau was amongst the experts they talked to. I'll see if I can find it! @alchemist 1

Here it is...

Ask The Industry: hi-fi engineers weigh in on the value of 'running-in'

A priceless or pointless exercise?

www.whathifi.com

Makes for an interesting read ..... I had a new pair of Focal Aria 926's for over 3 months, I generally don't play music loud, The Mrs was out one day and I blasted them for about a couple of hours, I'm convinced the bass on them opened up after that.

 

[Revolutions]

“We’d be concerned about the stability of a design if an amp was sounding significantly different over time.”

Sums up a lot for me. Interesting that Chord say their Ultima technology needs running in. What is Ultima technology? 🤷‍♂️

No mention of burning in cables @Jasonovich - are we safe from another cable thread???

 

[Jasonovich]

“We’d be concerned about the stability of a design if an amp was sounding significantly different over time.”

Sums up a lot for me. Interesting that Chord say their Ultima technology needs running in. What is Ultima technology? 🤷‍♂️

No mention of burning in cables @Jasonovich - are we safe from another cable thread???

My lips are sealed 😉

 

[Gray]

Thank you Nopiano for the post on speaker break in.

It wasn't a concern of mine as I've noticed the change in previous speakers I have acquired .
It was a general question of other peoples observations, which the supplied post seems to answer
quite thoroughly from the manufactures point of view.

The manufacturers of my own speakers suggested that break-in was necessary.
I expect nothing less, since it's 'common knowledge' that you'll notice a difference over time.
I didn't.
Possibly because I didn't expect to 🤔
(One of my pairs over the years was the original Mission 700, great little speaker).

With any luck, anyone changing their speakers achieves a genuine upgrade to their sound.
When people report (as they often do) that "they really improved after a few days" - I really believe many of them are merely acclimatising and fully appreciating the improved performance that the upgrade brought.

I'm not saying that some genuinely audible (and therefore measurable) difference can never occur, just that I've always thought that the effects of 'burn-in are overrated.

Personally, I like a nice tight sound. If my speakers loosened up significantly after break in, wouldn't I have thought the sound deteriorated?

Has anyone ever disliked how their speakers sounded after break-in?
If not why not?
If the sound can change, why not for the worse?
....and break in always stops at perfection. Speakers never loosen up too much over time. Why not?
....call me a cynic.

 

[Al ears]

The manufacturers of my own speakers suggested that break-in was necessary.
I expect nothing less, since it's 'common knowledge' that you'll notice a difference over time.
I didn't.
Possibly because I didn't expect to 🤔
(One of my pairs over the years was the original Mission 700, great little speaker).

With any luck, anyone changing their speakers achieves a genuine upgrade to their sound.
When people report (as they often do) that "they really improved after a few days" - I really believe many of them are merely acclimatising and fully appreciating the improved performance that the upgrade brought.

I'm not saying that some genuinely audible (and therefore measurable) difference can never occur, just that I've always thought that the effects of 'burn-in are overrated.

Personally, I like a nice tight sound. If my speakers loosened up significantly after break in, wouldn't I have thought the sound deteriorated?

Has anyone ever disliked how their speakers sounded after break-in?
If not why not?
If the sound can change, why not for the worse?
....and break in always stops at perfection. Speakers never loosen up too much over time. Why not?
....call me a cynic.

You are a cynic.....
Well you did ask.
I quite agree that anything that employs rubber or elastomers might need a period of aclimatisation as room temperature can affect such products but having sorted this will not necessarily make any difference to resultant sound signature.