Philips 55PFL8008 or something else? Confused.

[Oldboy]

I'd be interested to know if what hi fi plan a review at all of the Sony 805a models. I believe it's a different panel so lag may be higher but the viewing angle could be better. It's also £1000 cheaper than the 905a which makes a huge difference to negotiating with the wife

I remember reading somewhere that the 805 uses an LG sourced panel, this explains the jump to passive 3D as Sony was always so against passive sets until these suddenly popped onto the radar and represents Sonys first passive 3D tvs. I wish I could remember the article where I got this info from but I do remember seeing that the performance of these tvs was significantly down on last years HX853 range but it would be great to get an opinion from WHF so hopefully they get one in for review soon.

 

[George Doors]

Hi Oldboy,

The Philips 55PFL8008S/12 is on exclusive launch to Euronics stores at moment. You can find your local dealer by searching on their website- just give the store a call first to see if they have it on display.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Just noticed this deal:

http://www.totaldigital.biz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43_51&products_id=4847

And you get a free phone! Not bad!

 

[rocketrazor]

I'd be interested to know if what hi fi plan a review at all of the Sony 805a models. I believe it's a different panel so lag may be higher but the viewing angle could be better. It's also £1000 cheaper than the 905a which makes a huge difference to negotiating with the wife

I remember reading somewhere that the 805 uses an LG sourced panel, this explains the jump to passive 3D as Sony was always so against passive sets until these suddenly popped onto the radar and represents Sonys first passive 3D tvs. I wish I could remember the article where I got this info from but I do remember seeing that the performance of these tvs was significantly down on last years HX853 range but it would be great to get an opinion from WHF so hopefully they get one in for review soon.

an lg panel oh dear. That means its not going to be a gaming tv unless they have made some significant steps forward in that respect. Lg have always been 'lagging' behind. :rofl: sorry couldn't help myself

 

[rocketrazor]

Just noticed this deal:

http://www.totaldigital.biz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43_51&products_id=4847

And you get a free phone! Not bad!

thats the sort of deal I've be looking at, I think JL have it as well if memory serves right. Just need to know about the lag and a opinion about the picture quality compared to other tvs.

 

[Oldboy]

Hi Oldboy,

The Philips 55PFL8008S/12 is on exclusive launch to Euronics stores at moment. You can find your local dealer by searching on their website- just give the store a call first to see if they have it on display.

That explains the complete lack of stock at every other retailer then, thank you very much for the info.

 

[Oldboy]

Just noticed this deal:

http://www.totaldigital.biz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43_51&products_id=4847

And you get a free phone! Not bad!

Thanks gel but I think the 805 is out of the picture as it's got a very different panel to that on the 905 and is, I beleive, an LG sourced panel with washed out colours and black levels inferior to my HX853 plus it's a passive 3D set. Of course I will wait for the reviews to come in before I rule it out completely but it's not looking good.

That deal is good but I would rather go for the W905 deal as it comes with a free top of the range Experia Z instead of the L model

 

[Oldboy]

I'd be interested to know if what hi fi plan a review at all of the Sony 805a models. I believe it's a different panel so lag may be higher but the viewing angle could be better. It's also £1000 cheaper than the 905a which makes a huge difference to negotiating with the wife

I remember reading somewhere that the 805 uses an LG sourced panel, this explains the jump to passive 3D as Sony was always so against passive sets until these suddenly popped onto the radar and represents Sonys first passive 3D tvs. I wish I could remember the article where I got this info from but I do remember seeing that the performance of these tvs was significantly down on last years HX853 range but it would be great to get an opinion from WHF so hopefully they get one in for review soon.

an lg panel oh dear. That means its not going to be a gaming tv unless they have made some significant steps forward in that respect. Lg have always been 'lagging' behind. :rofl: sorry couldn't help myself

Nice one! :rofl:

I don't think the 805 will be a good tv for anyone let alone gamers, with an LG panel the signs are far from promising and the step down to passive 3D will likely cause an issue for Sony engineers who have no experience of the tech. I think it's pretty much a given that black levels will be far from good which is shame when you look at the massive strides taken with the HX853 range...it would seem Sony is taking a massive step backwards with this years 8 series. Who on earth made that ridiculous decision??

 

[Anonymous]

I definately would advise confirmed certainly as to what panel the W8 series from Sony uses. When I was at Sony Centre Bromley I saw the W9 and W8 side by side and till I saw the triluminous feed on the W9, I could not tell one from the other.A more expensive model doesn't mean it is aways better the top panasonic Led set did less well than lower models(what hi fi.....Av forum reviews)

So watch out for the W8! Surprises awaits.....it could cause a big upset! :quest:

If you do not want trilumious colours,many reviewers don't think much of it...... then the W9 would be an unncessary expense. I only went for W905 because I believe in Triluminous. I don't cliam the W905 is that much better than the Hx853......

Choose wisely. :O

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Oldboy, the Panasonic 55VT65 is calling you!

 

[Oldboy]

I definately would advise confirmed certainly as to what panel the W8 series from Sony uses. When I was at Sony Centre Bromley I saw the W9 and W8 side by side and till I saw the triluminous feed on the W9, I could not tell one from the other.A more expensive model doesn't mean it is aways better the top panasonic Led set did less well than lower models(what hi fi.....Av forum reviews)

So watch out for the W8! Surprises awaits.....it could cause a big upset! :quest:

If you do not want trilumious colours,many reviewers don't think much of it...... then the W9 would be an unncessary expense. I only went for W905 because I believe in Triluminous. I don't cliam the W905 is that much better than the Hx853......

Choose wisely. :O

As I said earlier I'm not discounting ANY tv on my list until I have been able to audition them all for myself, reviews are just my starting point to get a list together. The only problem with the 8 series is that it's a passive 3D set...i've invested in a large 3D disc collection so it's quite important to me now and i'm not sure I could take the step backwards in resolution that passive 3D incurs when compared to a full HD 3D tv. It's quite possibly a deal breaker if the passive 3D lacks the quality i'm used to but again careful auditioning is my plan.

As i've stated before triluminous holds no interest to me and I can see this going the way of the extra yellow colour that Sharp added to RGB a couple of years ago ie die a quiet death and never be heard of again. It's commendable that Sony have tried something different this year and are pushing some new tech but I don't think it will catch on judging by the reviews of the tech so it doesn't interest me, it's the quality of the W905's picture that interests me most and not the next gimmick added to sell more tvs.

It's great to hear that you were impressed with the 8 series but that enthusiasm needs to be tempered a little as you have seen it in showroom conditions so until they have been tested by reviewers I won't get too excitied, I'm going to make an effort to find the source that mentioned the 8 series has an LG panel and as soon as I find it I will post it. Of course it's just a panel and it's up to the engineers to make the most of it so perhaps the Sony engineers have managed to make the most of the panel they have been given.

I'm looking forward to seeing some reviews of the 8 series now

 

[Oldboy]

Oldboy, the Panasonic 55VT65 is calling you!

You are spot on with that gel...I can't help but think it's the best tv I can buy this year for PQ but the same old hang ups remain, my past experiences really are a huge barrier to me considering buying one and right now the head is ruling the heart. It would look nice in place of my HX853 though....

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Oldboy, the Panasonic 55VT65 is calling you!

You are spot on with that gel...I can't help but think it's the best tv I can buy this year for PQ but the same old hang ups remain, my past experiences really are a huge barrier to me considering buying one and right now the head is ruling the heart. It would look nice in place of my HX853 though....

Oldboy, the new Panasonics starting from the 50 series are leagues ahead of the past ones in picture quality, the difference is huge! Just buy from John Lewis they will look after you. They are nothing like a Richer Sounds! You have about a month to change your mind, even after using it! Then in the 5 year warranty they will fix any problems or give you a refund! You can't lose.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

And it is leagues ahead of the competition in picture quality!

 

[bigboss]

As I said earlier I'm not discounting ANY tv on my list until I have been able to audition them all for myself, reviews are just my starting point to get a list together. The only problem with the 8 series is that it's a passive 3D set...i've invested in a large 3D disc collection so it's quite important to me now and i'm not sure I could take the step backwards in resolution that passive 3D incurs when compared to a full HD 3D tv. It's quite possibly a deal breaker if the passive 3D lacks the quality i'm used to but again careful auditioning is my plan.

Personally, I prefer passive 3D. It's difficult to notice any loss in resolution, and the comfort factor is extremely high. Let us know what you think of the demo.

 

[rocketrazor]

Is John Lewis's 28 day returns policy on anything, not only faults. Ie if you purchased sonys w8 got it home set It up and used it for 21 days watching 3d and playing games and found that the lag was to much and the 3d wasn't got enough could you return it? Is it a no quibble 28 day return?

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Is John Lewis's 28 day returns policy on anything, not only faults. Ie if you purchased sonys w8 got it home set It up and used it for 21 days watching 3d and playing games and found that the lag was to much and the 3d wasn't got enough could you return it? Is it a no quibble 28 day return?

Yes.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

I have purchased 8 TVs from John Lewis in the past 2-3 years, and only kept 2!

 

[rocketrazor]

Is John Lewis's 28 day returns policy on anything, not only faults. Ie if you purchased sonys w8 got it home set It up and used it for 21 days watching 3d and playing games and found that the lag was to much and the 3d wasn't got enough could you return it? Is it a no quibble 28 day return?

Yes.

that might help in making a decision then. Good to know that is available if your not happy for any reason. Think I'd be inclined to take a punt on the w8 if it looked ok at demos and see what it's like once home. Then if its no good you can purchase the more expensive models from Sony or Panasonic.

 

[rocketrazor]

I have purchased 8 TVs from John Lewis in the past 2-3 years, and only kept 2!

blimey, they must love you

 

[Deleted member 2457]

I have purchased 8 TVs from John Lewis in the past 2-3 years, and only kept 2!

blimey, they must love you

I have spent a fortune in there. I buy all my electronics there. And only two of those purchases were because I changed my mind!

 

[rocketrazor]

I wonder if this is the same as our 805?

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sony-kdl-55w802a/4505-6482_7-35561934.html

 

[rocketrazor]

I have purchased 8 TVs from John Lewis in the past 2-3 years, and only kept 2!

blimey, they must love you

I have spent a fortune in there. I buy all my electronics there. And only two of those purchases were because I changed my mind!

i guess 3 of those were gt50's as well

 

[Deleted member 2457]

I have purchased 8 TVs from John Lewis in the past 2-3 years, and only kept 2!

blimey, they must love you

I have spent a fortune in there. I buy all my electronics there. And only two of those purchases were because I changed my mind!

i guess 3 of those were gt50's as well

Yep!

2 Sony 46 hx803 TVs, first one had a mark on the screen!

Panasonic VT30 50 inch, it was rubbish! A Samsung 46d8000 it was rubbish! I think that is 7 actually!

 

[rocketrazor]

47" review here

http://www.trustedreviews.com/sony-bravia-kdl-47w805a_TV_review

input lag measured as only 6ms even though it uses lg screen! It's let down in other areas though such as black detail. Guess to comes up to a choice now, price, blacks, input lag etc