Perreaux amps

[Macspur]

Hi Cno,

I think I'd have the same old problem with the DS, in terms of accessibility for a blind person.

The ISIS valve was going for£3,500 including my Naim as part ex.

Cheers

Mac

Apologies; I assumed that whatever enabled you to operate a PC, would allow you to operate Kinsky Desktop. That certainly looks a tempting price, and IMO would have made a stunning difference to your already wonderfully euphonic system.

No apologies necessary Cno, but O how I wish that were the case.

Cheers

Mac

 

[acalex]

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Question out of curiousity as I'm upgrading my system aswell:

I have demo of the IA4 saturday morning so I don't know how it sound. Except the consumtion, Do you feel somthing is missing? an if you consider the AMS it wouldn't change much I guess?

I'm seriously considering the AMS the sugden would be a slightly cheaper alternatve so I'm intrested in your finding's

...

Really looking forward to the demo on Saturday as I always had the Sudgen on back of my mind.

 

[Macspur]

Mac, see if you can audition the Ayre AX7e (£2.500), T+A PA1260R (£3.000, stocked by AE also)) and McIntosh MA6300 (£4000); all have a button for each input and low power consumption.

Hi,

Must admit not familiar with these brands, but thanks for the tips, will check them out.

Cheers

Mac

 

[Anatta]

Hi,

Check Analogue Seduction for the Ayre; they say it's available for home demos.

http://www.analogueseduction.net/product/Ayre_AX-7e_Integrated_Amplifier_AY-AX7E

 

[WishTree]

I'm generally happy with the Sugden, but somewhat concerned with the amount of juice it uses.

Good to read that I am not alone here

I used to have a Pathos Inpol2. Intially, I did not care much but then the utilities people almost doubled our monthly rate (not necessarily all because of Inpol2 but it has a huge role with all the amount of room heating the Inpol2 was doing).

After hovering in multiple directions for some time now I am settled with a Classe CAP 2100 which is quite alright on power!

My suggestion would be to consider the Classe CAP 2100 as well as Pathos Ethos (which also offer a built-in DAC) if that is what is expected.

 

[CnoEvil]

Hi,

Check Analogue Seduction for the Ayre; they say it's available for home demos.

http://www.analogueseduction.net/product/Ayre_AX-7e_Integrated_Amplifier_AY-AX7E

FWIW. I have dealt with Gary at Analogue Seduction, and can whole heartedly recommend them.

 

[shooter]

Hi,

Check Analogue Seduction for the Ayre; they say it's available for home demos.

http://www.analogueseduction.net/product/Ayre_AX-7e_Integrated_Amplifier_AY-AX7E

FWIW. I have dealt with Gary at Analogue Seduction, and can whole heartedly recommend them.

+1 Had a few bits off them over the years, good service.

 

[Macspur]

Had an Email from a dealer offering me a part ex with the Sugden on an ex demo Lavardin IT, not such a good deal in financial terms though... do you think this would be a better change of amp than the Perreaux?

The Lavardin cables are pretty expensive so if I plumped for the IT, I'd have to leave them for the time being.

It does erk me a bit that there's no remote for the IT... just as well I'm not sat far from the amp then.

Cheers

Mac

 

[CnoEvil]

As Acalex found with the IS, you may find it sounds a bit ordinary without the cables.

Would not having a remote control end up bugging you on a daily basis?

 

[acalex]

I am taking home a Lavardin IT next week...I will for sure share my impressions.

The difference Lavardin cables made with the IS reference was unbelievable...it must be part of the package imo.

Heard the Sudgen Masterclass today...I might have opportunity to try next to each other a Masterclass and a Lavardin IT if you want...

 

[Macspur]

I am taking home a Lavardin IT next week...I will for sure share my impressions.

The difference Lavardin cables made with the IS reference was unbelievable...it must be part of the package imo.

Heard the Sudgen Masterclass today...I might have opportunity to try next to each other a Masterclass and a Lavardin IT if you want...

So Alex, any initial thoughts on the Sugden?

Cheers

Mac

 

[Macspur]

As Acalex found with the IS, you may find it sounds a bit ordinary without the cables. Would not having a remote control end up bugging you on a daily basis?

Hi Cno,

I have heard the IT and personally didn't find it ordinary... the SQ wasn't a million miles from the Sugden's If anything, I found the Lavardin to have better resolution and sweeter harmonically.

As for the lack of a remote, it only controls the volume and I'm that close, I only have to stretch a bit from my seat to touch the control. If had to mute it at any time, there's always the CDP remote.

Cheers

Mac

 

[acalex]

I am taking home a Lavardin IT next week...I will for sure share my impressions.

The difference Lavardin cables made with the IS reference was unbelievable...it must be part of the package imo.

Heard the Sudgen Masterclass today...I might have opportunity to try next to each other a Masterclass and a Lavardin IT if you want...

So Alex, any initial thoughts on the Sugden?

Cheers

Mac

Great amp! Just wrote something here...

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/new-amplifier-my-long-journey

 

[CnoEvil]

Hi Cno,

I have heard the IT and personally didn't find it ordinary... the SQ wasn't a million miles from the Sugden's If anything, I found the Lavardin to have better resolution and sweeter harmonically.

That's great. I haven't heard the IT, so it's probably a good step up from the IS (as it should be).

 

[acalex]

Hi Cno,

I have heard the IT and personally didn't find it ordinary... the SQ wasn't a million miles from the Sugden's If anything, I found the Lavardin to have better resolution and sweeter harmonically.

That's great. I haven't heard the IT, so it's probably a good step up from the IS (as it should be).

As I would expect at almost twice the price

 

[CnoEvil]

As I would expect at almost twice the price

What would be interesting to know, is how the IS Ref with Lavardin cables (i/c, s/c, p/c), compares to the IT with ordinary ones.

 

[Macspur]

As I would expect at almost twice the price

What would be interesting to know, is how the IS Ref with Lavardin cables (i/c, s/c, p/c), compares to the IT with ordinary ones.

Indeed, hopefully Alex will enlighten us next week.

Still agonising whether to go for Perreaux, or Lavardin!... certainly haven't read a bad word about the latter, nor come to that, the Perreaux, just doesn't get the same exposure.

Cheers

Mac

 

[acalex]

As I would expect at almost twice the price

What would be interesting to know, is how the IS Ref with Lavardin cables (i/c, s/c, p/c), compares to the IT with ordinary ones.

Indeed, hopefully Alex will enlighten us next week.

Still agonising whether to go for Perreaux, or Lavardin!... certainly haven't read a bad word about the latter, nor come to that, the Perreaux, just doesn't get the same exposure.

Cheers

Mac

Did you compare the two against each other?

 

[Macspur]

As I would expect at almost twice the price

What would be interesting to know, is how the IS Ref with Lavardin cables (i/c, s/c, p/c), compares to the IT with ordinary ones.

Indeed, hopefully Alex will enlighten us next week.

Still agonising whether to go for Perreaux, or Lavardin!... certainly haven't read a bad word about the latter, nor come to that, the Perreaux, just doesn't get the same exposure.

Cheers

Mac

Did you compare the two against each other?

Unfortunately, unable to demo the Perreaux... dealer too far and unwilling to home dem, as has other interested buyers, but given me first refusal.

Cheers

Mac

 

[acalex]

As I would expect at almost twice the price

What would be interesting to know, is how the IS Ref with Lavardin cables (i/c, s/c, p/c), compares to the IT with ordinary ones.

Indeed, hopefully Alex will enlighten us next week.

Still agonising whether to go for Perreaux, or Lavardin!... certainly haven't read a bad word about the latter, nor come to that, the Perreaux, just doesn't get the same exposure.

Cheers

Mac

Did you compare the two against each other?

Unfortunately, unable to demo the Perreaux... dealer too far and unwilling to home dem, as has other interested buyers, but given me first refusal.

Cheers

Mac

I might be able to do this if you are still interested...as Roby was also very impressed by a Perreaux amp and we found in the same city a dealer stocking them. Need to get the Lavardin as home demo first...which might happen tomorrow or Tuesday.

 

[Macspur]

I fear that might be a bit too late for me, as I think the dealer will want to move the Eloquence 150I on ASAP.

Nevertheless, I would still be interested in yours and Roby's thoughts if you do get to hear one.

Cheers

Mac

BTW, there's a couple of dealers over here in the UK with your favourite speakers for sale; Central Audio and Midland Audio

 

[acalex]

I fear that might be a bit too late for me, as I think the dealer will want to move the Eloquence 150I on ASAP.

Nevertheless, I would still be interested in yours and Roby's thoughts if you do get to hear one.

Cheers

Mac

BTW, there's a couple of dealers over here in the UK with your favourite speakers for sale; Central Audio and Midland Audio

Sure no problem!

Thanks for the advice, are those ex demo prices I guess, correct? SFGM at less than 5k GBP...interesting!

 

[Macspur]

I fear that might be a bit too late for me, as I think the dealer will want to move the Eloquence 150I on ASAP.

Nevertheless, I would still be interested in yours and Roby's thoughts if you do get to hear one.

Cheers

Mac

BTW, there's a couple of dealers over here in the UK with your favourite speakers for sale; Central Audio and Midland Audio

Sure no problem!

Thanks for the advice, are those ex demo prices I guess, correct? SFGM at less than 5k GBP...interesting!

I think the ones from Central are used.

Cheers

Mac

 

[Macspur]

Hi,

Just been reading the specs on the Lavardin IT and noticed it doesn't have a tape output... disaster!

Not that I use tape still, but I do use mini disc quite a bit.

Cheers

Mac

 

[CnoEvil]

Hi,

Just been reading the specs on the Lavardin IT and noticed it doesn't have a tape output... disaster!

Is it the same with the IS Ref?