Since you don't have an amp or surround sound speakers, you will not benefit from the true 'blu-ray experience'...high definition audio as well.
You will enjoy HD pictures though, but a shame nevertheless.
You will enjoy HD pictures though, but a shame nevertheless.
If you have THX DVD or Pixar DVD lying around, use the calibration features to get your TV set up optimally. You can buy a DVE disc from play etc. that is more comprehensive. I agree though, you're missing out on audio, even just DD5.1/DTS would be a massive improvement to your movie pleasure.
ValianTX:
Since you don't have an amp or surround sound speakers, you will not benefit from the true 'blu-ray experience'...high definition audio as well.
You will enjoy HD pictures though, but a shame nevertheless.
How do you get high definition audio? Even if I attach speakers this would not be via an HDMi lead would it?
I won't know what the sound is like until I get the Tv but most of the folk who have it say the sound is fine.
I am on a budget which has already been used up by the TV and DVD Player. For the moment anyway.
I really don't have a clue where to start re speakers etc and don't want wires all over the place.
I do like the look of the Bose Cinemate as it is nice and compact. Problem is it's £450!
Since you don't have an amp or surround sound speakers, you will not benefit from the true 'blu-ray experience'...high definition audio as well.
You will enjoy HD pictures though, but a shame nevertheless.
How do you get high definition audio? Even if I attach speakers this would not be via an HDMi lead would it?
I won't know what the sound is like until I get the Tv but most of the folk who have it say the sound is fine.
I am on a budget which has already been used up by the TV and DVD Player. For the moment anyway.
I really don't have a clue where to start re speakers etc and don't want wires all over the place.
I do like the look of the Bose Cinemate as it is nice and compact. Problem is it's £450!
d4v3pum4:If you have THX DVD or Pixar DVD lying around, use the calibration features to get your TV set up optimally. You can buy a DVE disc from play etc. that is more comprehensive. I agree though, you're missing out on audio, even just DD5.1/DTS would be a massive improvement to your movie pleasure.
Sorry but I don't have a clue what DD5.1/DTS is?
Sorry but I don't have a clue what DD5.1/DTS is?
Scotsgirl:That's my kind of set up Andrew!
I just wondered re settings?
The default settings out of the box will do just fine.
I just wondered re settings?
The default settings out of the box will do just fine.
Thanks a lot Andrew.
Do you think I will miss out on HD audio if I don't get a speaker system to go with the BD35 and Panasonic 37X10?
I like the look of either the Bose Cinemate or Yamaha YSP 600 as I don't want wires all over the place. The living room is due to be redecorated this year.
Do you think I will miss out on HD audio if I don't get a speaker system to go with the BD35 and Panasonic 37X10?
I like the look of either the Bose Cinemate or Yamaha YSP 600 as I don't want wires all over the place. The living room is due to be redecorated this year.
Well yes, you will miss out on HD audio, even if you buy either of those systems. If you want a solution with HD audio, there's a few Blu-ray home cinema in a box systems now available, but it will mean having speakers all round the room, which you may not want.
Afraid I don't want speakers all round the room Andrew.
What do you think of soundbars? I thought it might be a good compromise?
What do you think of soundbars? I thought it might be a good compromise?
d4v3pum4:Guide to HD audio
Thanks for the link but I'm afraid it keeps coming up saying 'File Not Found'.
How much would I miss out on by not having HD Audio and is the only way to get this by using an amp and speakers?
Thanks for the link but I'm afraid it keeps coming up saying 'File Not Found'.
How much would I miss out on by not having HD Audio and is the only way to get this by using an amp and speakers?
professorhat
Well-known member
Hi Scotsgirl,
HD audio is basically a generic term for the new formats used for sound on Blu-Ray discs. On DVDs, surround sound generally came in two formats, one was Dolby Digital, the other was DTS. Both of these formats offered 5.1 audio which consists of five speakers placed all around you in the room (one on the left front, one in the centre, one on the right front, one on the right rear and another on the left rear) and also a subwoofer (which is the ".1" in 5.1).
With Blu-Ray, the studios found that there was now enough room on the disc to allow for better quality soundtracks and so new formats were made for these, the two most popular being Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio. In general, these still offer 5.1 sound as above, but they are of a higher quality and thus sound better (basically, a bit like the difference between MP3 and CDs - CDs sound better as they are of a higher quality). Since the term HD is all the rage at the moment, these new formats were dubbed HD audio.
So if you're not interested in having speakers all over your room, you don't need to worry about HD audio as this is really the only way to appreciate it.
HD audio is basically a generic term for the new formats used for sound on Blu-Ray discs. On DVDs, surround sound generally came in two formats, one was Dolby Digital, the other was DTS. Both of these formats offered 5.1 audio which consists of five speakers placed all around you in the room (one on the left front, one in the centre, one on the right front, one on the right rear and another on the left rear) and also a subwoofer (which is the ".1" in 5.1).
With Blu-Ray, the studios found that there was now enough room on the disc to allow for better quality soundtracks and so new formats were made for these, the two most popular being Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master Audio. In general, these still offer 5.1 sound as above, but they are of a higher quality and thus sound better (basically, a bit like the difference between MP3 and CDs - CDs sound better as they are of a higher quality). Since the term HD is all the rage at the moment, these new formats were dubbed HD audio.
So if you're not interested in having speakers all over your room, you don't need to worry about HD audio as this is really the only way to appreciate it.
Thanks ever so much for explaining this so well for me Prof. Much appreciated!
Although I am getting a Blu-Ray player I don't intend buying Blu-Ray DVDs for a while until they come down in price. So take it that HD audio won't be an issue for me at the moment?
Do you think I would be missing out a lot by not having this?
Although I am getting a Blu-Ray player I don't intend buying Blu-Ray DVDs for a while until they come down in price. So take it that HD audio won't be an issue for me at the moment?
Do you think I would be missing out a lot by not having this?
professorhat
Well-known member
Well, it's a tricky one to answer as it really comes to your own preferences. Personally, I couldn't stand to watch a movie without surround sound and, now I have the Blu-Ray bug, I find I don't actually really watch DVDs any more because the Blu-Ray experience is so good, watching a DVD just disappoints me!
But that's me, I know there are plenty of people out there on these forums who have changed from surround sound to standard stereo for movie watching and prefer it that way. If you're not too bothered about surround sound, then I certainly don't think you should worry about HD audio. From the sound of your wants and needs, one of the soundbars definitely sounds the way forward for you.
Also, on the price of Blu-Rays, you can now find quite a few good films at just £7 - £10 at the likes of Amazon, Play, HMV etc. At Amazon, a number of £8 - £9 movies are also in their 3 for 2 offer, meaning 3 films can be got for just £5 - £6 each in total. New releases and popular titles are generally more expensive, but leave it for a few months and they do come down or get put in the 3 for 2 offers which makes them more affordable. The trick is definitely to stay away from the high street where prices are still £20 - £30 per disc for some unknown reason.
But that's me, I know there are plenty of people out there on these forums who have changed from surround sound to standard stereo for movie watching and prefer it that way. If you're not too bothered about surround sound, then I certainly don't think you should worry about HD audio. From the sound of your wants and needs, one of the soundbars definitely sounds the way forward for you.
Also, on the price of Blu-Rays, you can now find quite a few good films at just £7 - £10 at the likes of Amazon, Play, HMV etc. At Amazon, a number of £8 - £9 movies are also in their 3 for 2 offer, meaning 3 films can be got for just £5 - £6 each in total. New releases and popular titles are generally more expensive, but leave it for a few months and they do come down or get put in the 3 for 2 offers which makes them more affordable. The trick is definitely to stay away from the high street where prices are still £20 - £30 per disc for some unknown reason.
Scotsgirl:d4v3pum4:Guide to HD audio
Thanks for the link but I'm afraid it keeps coming up saying 'File Not Found'.
How much would I miss out on by not having HD Audio and is the only way to get this by using an amp and speakers?
Please accept my apologies, my cutting and pasting skills must have went for a burton. I have edited the link to reflect the correct webpage.
CORRECT LINK
Edit - Agree with Prof, I couldn't be without surround sound now...
Thanks for the link but I'm afraid it keeps coming up saying 'File Not Found'.
How much would I miss out on by not having HD Audio and is the only way to get this by using an amp and speakers?
Please accept my apologies, my cutting and pasting skills must have went for a burton. I have edited the link to reflect the correct webpage.
CORRECT LINK
Edit - Agree with Prof, I couldn't be without surround sound now...
Thanks both!
I actually quite like the look of the Bose Cinemate and was told this would give a richer, cleaner sound than the Yamaha although the Yamaha has better surround sound?
I was also told that using a phono switch and taking a lead to the Bose would give HD audio?
I actually quite like the look of the Bose Cinemate and was told this would give a richer, cleaner sound than the Yamaha although the Yamaha has better surround sound?
I was also told that using a phono switch and taking a lead to the Bose would give HD audio?
professorhat
Well-known member
Haven't heard either to comment on which is better I'm afraid, but just looking at how they both work, I'd probably go for the Yamaha as I'm not a big believer in these fancy processing units which generate more channels than are present.
Scotsgirl:I was also told that using a phono switch and taking a lead to the Bose would give HD audio?
That's definitely not true.
Scotsgirl:I was also told that using a phono switch and taking a lead to the Bose would give HD audio?
That's definitely not true.
I can't see how you would get HD audio from the Bose. While I'm not a Bose hater, I really do think you can get a lot better for your money.
The only 2.1 system I know of that supports HD Audio is the Onkyo HTX-22HD and you can add a centre speaker and rears to make it 5.1. If it is small style speakers you're looking for, I would still go for a proper AV receiver (not all of them are as ugly as Onkyo
) and separate speakers. Bookshelf speakers will offer better performance over the small type speakers (size does matter) but there are plenty of small speakers around from the likes of Kef, Focal Domes, Orb Audio, Mordaunt Short, Tannoy, Jamo and so on that are pretty good.
I particularly like the look of the Focal Domes but I am slightly biased in that I own Focal speakers.
The only 2.1 system I know of that supports HD Audio is the Onkyo HTX-22HD and you can add a centre speaker and rears to make it 5.1. If it is small style speakers you're looking for, I would still go for a proper AV receiver (not all of them are as ugly as Onkyo
I particularly like the look of the Focal Domes but I am slightly biased in that I own Focal speakers.
Thanks again both.
I'm afraid the focal domes are way out of my price league!
Could you please recommend a 2.1 system which would give me great sound and HD audio for about £400?.
I really haven't a clue and feel my head is going to explode!
I'm afraid the focal domes are way out of my price league!
Could you please recommend a 2.1 system which would give me great sound and HD audio for about £400?.
I really haven't a clue and feel my head is going to explode!
Hiya Scotsgirl, Sorry did not think the photo would have uplifted ok. I use this with my setup and a Subwoofer hidden under my coffee table and the YSP 30D or 40D are available for your budget on either Amazon, Sound and vision or Richer sounds , both have vierra link that works with Panasonic.
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