My first Hi-Fi system doesnt sound quite right

[Rimse]

Just try use usb printer cable instead of starlight.I read somewhere that people were unsitisfied with exotic usb cables.I myself found that furutech formula 2 not always sounds right in my audio systems,so most of the time using printer usb cable

 

[Tariqv]

I seriously doubt those people have heard a good usb cable vs. a printer cable! I had a printer cable initially then I auditioned the violet and starlight and the difference was so obvious; both wireworld usb cables had punchier bass, more realistic vocals (the starlight was even more real and top end was extended), and the soundstage increased dramatically. I think those people who claim that a usb cable makes no difference are just masking their ignorance.

 

[altruistic.lemon]

Can't help feeling you're on a hiding to nothing, mate. There isn't an amp built that can change the speakers in the way you describe. If you aren't going to change, then it is a matter of adjusting - listening to the positives, not the negatives in the sound. I wouldn't be throwing more money at it.

 

[the record spot]

I seriously doubt those people have heard a good usb cable vs. a printer cable! I had a printer cable initially then I auditioned the violet and starlight and the difference was so obvious; both wireworld usb cables had punchier bass, more realistic vocals (the starlight was even more real and top end was extended), and the soundstage increased dramatically. I think those people who claim that a usb cable makes no difference are just masking their ignorance.

Of what, exactly?

Just out of interest, did you try the fancy USB cable with your printer? I mean, if ever there was an opportunity for an audio cable to really produce deeper blacks, this is surely it...

 

[Anonymous]

I have been reading this tread I thought I'd put in .i have arcaydis dm1 ,s running off a rega Mira amp .the speakers are in a medim sized room .just over 6 foot from my main listening position .the speaker are the same size as tannoys .and I feel I get very good natural bass.and yes in my room with a good recording deep bass.

 

[manicm]

CnoEvil and The Record Spot - interesting you both say that, and it could be true. I'm just going on a review (which is just one person's interpretation of course, albeit a very experienced reviewer of loudspeakers):

HiFi Choice:

One key characteristic of the DC driver’s horn-loaded tweeter is that the treble is focused into a 90-degree cone, rather than the much wider dispersion shown by most speakers with conventional dome tweeters. This is neither ‘right’ nor ‘wrong’, but it is ‘different’; sharpening the image precision and focus, but diluting the illusion that musicians are in the listening room.

Also, please note, I wasn't talking about the overall soundstage - just the tweeter...I should have written: thus the tweeters will have a tighter, more directional sweetspot.

Funnily enough, this is the same dilemma I have with my BX2s. On the surface they do everything right - clarity, bass, punch, but they just don't engage me. Likewise, they do sound better at higher volumes, but they also have restricted vertical imaging - sound doesn't really extend beyond their height. Which is why I will shortly revert back to my beloved B&W 685s - still a compromise in my small room and low-power, but they still engaged me more and I suspect nothing at their price possesses such scale, they're a :star: and I forgive them their shortcomings, I want them back home

 

[fr0g]

I seriously doubt those people have heard a good usb cable vs. a printer cable! I had a printer cable initially then I auditioned the violet and starlight and the difference was so obvious; both wireworld usb cables had punchier bass, more realistic vocals (the starlight was even more real and top end was extended), and the soundstage increased dramatically. I think those people who claim that a usb cable makes no difference are just masking their ignorance.

If I said there was more chance of my football team winning if I wore my lucky green t-shirt it would have more basis in truth than this. Please explain how you think that a different usb cable can affect the bass response. It makes as much sense as touching wood or throwing salt over your shoulder.

Why do people persist in spreading this palpable nonsense?

 

[manicm]

Well to be fair, there were some who said HDMI cables make no difference, to each his own, live and let live, and no need to insult each other.

 

[BenLaw]

Where was the insult?

 

[manicm]

Where was the insult?

'Why do people persist in spreading this palpable nonsense?'

 

[BenLaw]

That's not insulting, it's frog's robust expression of his (correct) opinion about the properties of USB cables.

 

[manicm]

That's not insulting, it's frog's robust expression of his (correct) opinion about the properties of USB cables.

And his 'correct' opinion about MP3s as well.

And Steve's 'correct' opinion on why speaker cables may make a difference, and why others would 'correctly' state on why he should be sent to a mental home, and 'correct' opinions on replacing the plates on bi-wirable speakers or not,

And 'correct' opinions that WHF's review of the latest Oppo was wrong, or 'correct' opinions on why they're right.

BenLaw, you and Froggo are becoming unbearably boring. And this is a Hifi forum after all, and everyone's entitled to their 'correct' opinion, including tariq. and I am ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in this.

 

[the record spot]

Yep. Get the right mastering and 192 or upwards will sound excellent. Easily and readily proved.

 

[the record spot]

BenLaw, you and Froggo are becoming unbearably boring. And this is a Hifi forum after all, and everyone's entitled to their 'correct' opinion, including tariq. and I am ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in this.

And if we're lecturing (read: hectoring) others on insults, maybe you could read your own credo and use Frog's nickanme without the petty change to it then?

Tell you what, what's more boring? Having some interesting content that doesn't just trot out the same tired tripe about what massive differences bits of audio cable make or a few pointers on what the likely real benefits are. No need to answer, I know you're firmly in the foo camp and you're welcome to it.

 

[manicm]

BenLaw, you and Froggo are becoming unbearably boring. And this is a Hifi forum after all, and everyone's entitled to their 'correct' opinion, including tariq. and I am ABSOLUTELY CORRECT in this.

And if we're lecturing (read: hectoring) others on insults, maybe you could read your own credo and use Frog's nickanme without the petty change to it then?

Tell you what, what's more boring? Having some interesting content that doesn't just trot out the same tired tripe about what massive differences bits of audio cable make or a few pointers on what the likely real benefits are. No need to answer, I know you're firmly in the foo camp and you're welcome to it.

Oh hello Scratched Record Spot - and yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, any foo is on your record.

 

[atticus]

Im new to hifi and bought my system without hearing it due to limited auditioning availability in my country. I dont have a cd collection so I listen to Flac through a windows 7 laptop via Wireworld starlight usb into mdac and using the Roksan kandy k2 integrated as pre and power. The thing Im not liking is the fact that the music sounds nothing special, not inviting and fullbodied enough, this is evident especially with rock music where many fast instruments play together, you really dont get excited and satistied. Otherwise electronic music is quite enjoyable with good bass and acoustic music is even better with highs quite likeable and vocals realistic.

I believe the primary problem is the synergy of the roksan with the other equipment, it might be too analytical?!

Im thinking of auditioning a Naim 5i used in a few days, will post how that goes.

Appeciate if you could share your experience so I can improve upon my system.

Hello Tariqv, where do you live and what made you buy this particular setup in the first place, please?

 

[the record spot]

Oh hello Scratched Record Spot - and yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, any foo is on your record.

What a tiresome little boy you are Manic, a tiresome little boy indeed. oke:

 

[manicm]

Oh hello Scratched Record Spot - and yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, any foo is on your record.

What a tiresome little boy you are Manic, a tiresome little boy indeed. oke:

And what a yawnsome, tiresome trio BenSpotFrog has become. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.

 

[the record spot]

If I said there was more chance of my football team winning if I wore my lucky green t-shirt it would have more basis in truth than this. Please explain how you think that a different usb cable can affect the bass response. It makes as much sense as touching wood or throwing salt over your shoulder.

Why do people persist in spreading this palpable nonsense?

Well said, people can spend their money on what they like, but ignorance that gets passed on as fact to other potential buyers is a no-no for me. Plus, some of the foo nonsense that gets passed on to consumers when it comes to digital cabling begs to be shot down.

 

[the record spot]

And what a yawnsome, tiresome trio BenSpotFrog has become. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.

Must be past your bedtime little one, off you trot now...you'll get respect when you start showing some.

 

[manicm]

And what a yawnsome, tiresome trio BenSpotFrog has become. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.

Must be past your bedtime little one, off you trot now...you'll get respect when you start showing some.

If I ever had the terrible misfortune of meeting you I might be bored into temptation into doing just that, but until then I can just shrug off your insolence, little one. Please begone.

And until you shrug off your disrespect, condescension and derision like your direct post to tariq, I'll never have respect for the likes of you.

 

[altruistic.lemon]

Hello Tariqv, where do you live and what made you buy this particular setup in the first place, please?

Good to see someone back on topic!

Think he bought without auditioning, which is a lot of the problem.

 

[the record spot]

If I ever had the terrible misfortune of meeting you I might be bored into temptation into doing just that, but until then I can just shrug off your insolence, little one. Please begone.

And until you shrug off your disrespect, condescension and derision like your direct post to tariq, I'll never have respect for the likes of you.

I think I can cope.

 

[manicm]

Likewise

 

[the record spot]

To Altruistic, yes, the buying blind element is a risk. You either read up and get as much info and then go for it or run the risk of dissatisfaction.