With Naim and Cyrus quietly discontinuing their home cinema solutions, the choices available to punters looking for something a little bit different are dwindling. Multi-channel behemoths dominate the market, loaded with bells and whistles, powered by flux capacitors, weighing a ton even before the manual is included, and these are often downgrades in terms of stereo performance for most hifi fans compared to their existing integrated amps. Everything is designed to replace kit rather than to add to existing kit. Sure you can plug the pre-outs into your existing amp, if the AV amp has them, but with most 5.1 set-ups that still leaves two channels on the AV amp unused (unless the AV amp offers bridging). Auto set-ups, multi-room, networking options, all things that I'd bet many users would never need. Internet/DAB radio? I'd bet anyone who wants this already has an ipod with an internet radio ap, add an ipod dock and you're there already. So that's half the budget spent on features I don't need. I know this means I should be looking at the audiolab 8000AP/8000X7 combo but it's still two boxes and is that the only option left? My gear is not high-end but it would be nice to be able to upgrade the old Yamaha DSP-E800 without throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Suggestions gratefully received.