Infiniteloop said:
What I really don't understand about many comments on these forums is why some people think it's okay to rubbish expensive equipment that they haven't heard with comments like: 'all digital sounds the same', or 'adding tubes to a circuit ruins the sound because some engineer friend told me it happened on another not remotely similar device'.
Is it because these people feel the need to remove any idea that owning these items of equipment would bring joy and contentment?
You certainly don't get posters on car enthusiast sites saying you'd be better off with a Trabant because it's cheap and gets you there just as efficiently. Nobody ever criticises a BMW because it has shiny paintwork or a cabin that's too big and is just full of air anyway.
I'm sorry, but cheap entry level players simply do not sound the same as expensive kit. Expectation bias is a myth. And before we get the usual posters going on about double-blind testing, I do not believe that you can hear the differences between kit in that way. Differences in SQ become apparent over days of listening to many different recordings in different genre. Quick sound-bite listening isn't sufficient.
Isn't it a bit like taking a blind-folded passenger for a ride in a Trabant and then a BMW and asking them which is which?
Like I said before, not everything should be driven by price.
This is a hobby like any other. Why can't we enjoy the exotic examples of kit that get developed for what they are?
Isn't to not do so a little mean-spirited and peevish?
I believe that those guys just want to insert a little bit of perspective into, sometimes, very partisan discussions with no technical point of view or experiences.
Just imagine if somebody would have commented "yeah, you will have so much details" and other stuff like that. The whole forum would have looked rather stupid. Some have, already, commented giant things like :
thoseguys said:
Expectation bias is a myth.
Dear God, a proven scientific fact is now becoming a myth (refer to audiology revues for knowing what it's about)
thoseguys said:
Differences in SQ become apparent over days
No Sir. Again false. Those persons don't know about the importance of mood into the perception. Other general perception bias will occur in such long amount of times. Again, unknowingness about simple basical audiology points.
thoseguys said:
you'd be better off with a Trabant because it's cheap and gets you there just as efficiently. Nobody ever criticises a BMW because it has shiny paintwork or a cabin that's too big and is just full of air anyway.
Those peoples don't enven understand the difference between a hifi system and A CAR. And those persons are criticizing openly the point of views of experienced reviewers in putting a bad layer around their action with those kind of sentences, and I quote :
thoseguys said:
why some people think it's okay to rubbish expensive equipment ( ... )
Is it because these people feel the need to remove any idea that owning these items of equipment would bring joy and contentment?
I strongly belive that those other peoples, that commented in a more critic way, are not rubbishing anything. They don't want to rob the joy of the peoples, they want to put things into perspective. You can be happy with a big, shiny, well made cd player ; having quality goods that aren't made by slaves is a wonderful thing. Those specific persons already commented that a beautiful amp and cd player, that you can see and touch as "superb", is a wonderful thing to add to some already great hifi experience. But I can only invite the other persons to don't speak ill about those persons.
If the other persons could explain to the forum, what a tube in a signal path of a DAC could bring in quality to the signal, we would be please to hear from them.