Iphone 5 costs 207$ (127Pound) to make and Ifools pay 529 pounds
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bigboss
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Have you factored in the cost of all those adverts, shipping, packaging, taxes etc.? Besides, Apple is not a charity. It's in the market to make money. It has spent a lot on research in making the software & hardware. It's foolish to simply consider the hardware cost. Even the cost of manufacturing has not been taken into account.
Now add Shipping , the two Taxes from supplier and retail and then split the Profits from supplier to retail, it doesn't end up being that great as it first seems .
You will find this with all none UK built electrical equipment , very cheap labour = higher profits its nothing new
You will find this with all none UK built electrical equipment , very cheap labour = higher profits its nothing new
6th.replicant
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Do you think samsung don't do the same as Apple?
Samsung sub contract there TV parts out to small companys who are just as bad as Apples Factorys
My wifes mother used to work for one in the Czech Republic who made circuit boards for Sony , Samsung and Panasonic TV's = 50 hours + aweek for 400 euros a month
I love people who read stuff and think they know it all
Samsung sub contract there TV parts out to small companys who are just as bad as Apples Factorys
My wifes mother used to work for one in the Czech Republic who made circuit boards for Sony , Samsung and Panasonic TV's = 50 hours + aweek for 400 euros a month
I love people who read stuff and think they know it all
So components are about 25% of the total.
Be interesting to see what the equivalent number is for various hifi brands. The high end will be a lot 'worse' than that in many cases. Think re-badged Oppo's, imported American kit where dollar = pound, add-on power supplies (PSX-R?!) Etc.
iFools? HiFiFools? (I'm both) :doh:
Edit - just checked, a Samsung Galaxy 3 isn't much cheaper, and presumably they supply the parts to themselves chaper than to Apple, so the markup will be similar. How sad am I pointing that out though, going to all that trouble to defend the largest corporation in the world. Especially as the 'same margin' argument is most certainly not valid for computers, which are daylight robbery. There, I've said it. Note to self - get a life
Be interesting to see what the equivalent number is for various hifi brands. The high end will be a lot 'worse' than that in many cases. Think re-badged Oppo's, imported American kit where dollar = pound, add-on power supplies (PSX-R?!) Etc.
iFools? HiFiFools? (I'm both) :doh:
Edit - just checked, a Samsung Galaxy 3 isn't much cheaper, and presumably they supply the parts to themselves chaper than to Apple, so the markup will be similar. How sad am I pointing that out though, going to all that trouble to defend the largest corporation in the world. Especially as the 'same margin' argument is most certainly not valid for computers, which are daylight robbery. There, I've said it. Note to self - get a life
Paul.
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Apple state in their tax returns they make about 50% on iPhones. Less margin than the clothes you're wearing or the beer you drink.
6threplicant - where did you get that emoticon, brilliant? And so much more succinct than my waffling
BenLaw
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Zubkabera said:
What price would people not be ifools to pay? I would like a precise answer with full reasoning please.
6th.replicant said:
I got admit this is driving me mad , i come to WHF to read and get good tips and try to help other ( if i can ) but i find myself annoyed with certain people because all they want to do is bad mouth things because they can copy and paste from other websites and think how clever they are
daveh75
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woodster
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I wonder if all your comrades in Utopia think like that too. Dont be so naive, thats how business functions, you pay some money and you make a choice. Just because its not your choice, does not necessarily make it wrong.
Take a long hard look at the HiFi in your signature...exactly how much do you think that lot cost to make? Absolutely nowhere near the retail costs. That surely makes you just as much a fool, by your own reasoning?Zubkabera said:
professorhat
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Wow, I don't think I've ever seen so many leap to the (albeit mostly indirect) defense of Apple on this forum before!
6th.replicant
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bigboss
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grdunn123
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Including the packaging materials and the drink, a can of Coke costs 6 US Cents (around 4 pence) to manufacture....what's the most you've paid for a can of Coke?
bigboss
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While I am someone who views Apple with mainly disdain, the OP is ridiculous.
However, it does throw up a good point regarding one-make systems v competition.
Yes, Samsung charge a premium for their top-end handset, but they have gained a foothold in the market, and can. Also, I imagine the margin is not quite so high as the fruity gadget.
But there are some fantastic, competetive and powerful rivals that are not so expensive. And if we move into the tablet, laptop and desktop computer side then the difference is stark.
Windows based PCs, with all the competition do not include much profit. Macs do. Lots.
Same with laptops. My own was £1500 for a very well-made, very high spec machine from Asus. Would have been £1000 more for the same spec from Apple.
And of course the Google and Amazon tablets prove that there are well-made, powerful tablets to be had with real value.
But as someone said. It's a choice. And no choice in this regard is "wrong". Whatever mine or anyone elses views.
However, it does throw up a good point regarding one-make systems v competition.
Yes, Samsung charge a premium for their top-end handset, but they have gained a foothold in the market, and can. Also, I imagine the margin is not quite so high as the fruity gadget.
But there are some fantastic, competetive and powerful rivals that are not so expensive. And if we move into the tablet, laptop and desktop computer side then the difference is stark.
Windows based PCs, with all the competition do not include much profit. Macs do. Lots.
Same with laptops. My own was £1500 for a very well-made, very high spec machine from Asus. Would have been £1000 more for the same spec from Apple.
And of course the Google and Amazon tablets prove that there are well-made, powerful tablets to be had with real value.
But as someone said. It's a choice. And no choice in this regard is "wrong". Whatever mine or anyone elses views.
power
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power
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This basically means that you think your AV equipment sold at cost and the manufacturers are working for United Nations or some non profit organisation.
power
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Samsung's price be lower but that doesnt necessarily mean their margins are lower. They didnt spend as much money as apple in R&D since they copied than being innovative making it cheaper to make samsung
bigboss
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John Duncan
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John Duncan said:
Does this mean we now need to have a sarcastic name for Samsung owners?
I would say that Apple products are one of the lesser culprits in the mark up arena, clothes and shoes are worse by far.
It is however somewhat relevant to something I saw yesterday on Gumtree which I find a bit odd, iPhone 5 32GB is available with 2-3 weeks shipping for £599 from Apple on-line store but some joker called John is asking £750 for a "brand new sealed unit dispatched as soon as payment is received".
Is it just me??? :quest:
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