Interconnect recommendations

[Tinman1952]

Can't help thinking that @MUSICRAFT might be trying to wind people up.

Unfortunately he's not......🙄

 

[Tinman1952]

Hi,
No, differences in conductivity adds resistance only, and there is no non-linearity in their voltage versus current transfer characteristics. Essentially, what comes out is what went in, with a slightly lower voltage (linearly related to the signal).

Regards,
Shadders.

You simply do not want to believe that a cable can affect the frequency response for some as yet unknown reason.....seems at odds with many enthusiasts' (and reviewers) opinion....

 

[Gray]

That's what needs to be replaced.

If the plugs unscrew (and I assume they do), then they certainly don't need to be replaced.
If, as you say, there's intermittency, it's likely that one of the central conductors is detached from the pin - resoldering is all that's necessary....

 

[Gray]

I know personal reports get dissed here (not saying by you, btw), but my old Arcam setup allowed two outputs from the same CDP, so I could easily flip back and forth between freebies and my current interconnects. The difference in bass was impossible to ignore - which surprised me*, as I was expecting any differences to be in the subtle stuff, like depth and soundstage. And swapping cables between inputs merely moved the difference, so it wasn't down to the inputs being different.

But as there are no reproducible charts, yeah, yeah yaddah yaddah - again, not meaning that this is what you will say, Gray!

*Interesting how my sense of self-delusion could surprise me by giving me what I wasn't expecting. My SOSD must be pretty sophisticated...

The bottom line on cables must surely be this:
If you (or anyone else) can tell, without knowing, which cable you're listening to, then great....no more to be said.
If not....

 

[Gray]

yet you can hear the benefits of a Sub.

Come on Nads.
There isn't a person on the planet that wouldn't expect a sub to have an infinitely greater effect on the resultant sound than any (working, non-broken) cable.
I don't use a sub.

 

[plastic penguin]

If the plugs unscrew (and I assume they do), then they certainly don't need to be replaced.
If, as you say, there's intermittency, it's likely that one of the central conductors is detached from the pin - resoldering is all that's necessary....

Don't think they do. Think I've had them since the 90s and most of the printing has been rubbed away. They do look, from what I can see, like Cambridge set. Can't remember the model.

For about £20 I could get another Cambridge set or QED Profile 2 mtrs for £19.95 at Richers. I've never owned any QEDs before so it'll be interesting.

 

[plastic penguin]

Don't think they do. Think I've had them since the 90s and most of the printing has been rubbed away. They do look, from what I can see, like Cambridge set. Can't remember the model.

For about £20 I could get another Cambridge set or QED Profile 2 mtrs for £19.95 at Richers. I've never owned any QEDs before so it'll be interesting.

Just remembered. Those Cambridge RCAs are Studio Reference.

 

[Deleted member 160668]

Curiosity question here, but why are you connecting anything to the sky box. I have my smart TV connected by Optical to my DAC, that way if I am using another source (it also has Netflix on the smart TV, rather than via my Virgin box, it also has a Firestick too), then the TV picks up and transmits it straight to the DAC.

Therefore, no RCA needed at all. Although admittedly I could go RCA to 3.5mm jack to Virgin box. Just not sure why I would when it can go straight from the Smart TV to hifi.

Perhaps I'm missing something?!

 

[12th Monkey]

The bottom line on cables must surely be this:
If you (or anyone else) can tell, without knowing, which cable you're listening to, then great....no more to be said.
If not....

Cuts to the nub of it, doesn't it? And yes, we both could - it really was glaringly obvious. Can't repeat it with present setup as it lacks two interconnects, and I think I'd be on dodgy marital ground if I asked Mrs 12th to start swapping and unswapping cables for me!

 

[plastic penguin]

Curiosity question here, but why are you connecting anything to the sky box. I have my smart TV connected by Optical to my DAC, that way if I am using another source (it also has Netflix on the smart TV, rather than via my Virgin box, it also has a Firestick too), then the TV picks up and transmits it straight to the DAC.

Therefore, no RCA needed at all. Although admittedly I could go RCA to 3.5mm jack to Virgin box. Just not sure why I would when it can go straight from the Smart TV to hifi.

Perhaps I'm missing something?!

A) I don't have a Dac
B) the TV is around 9 years old. That means there's no facility for any Netflix etc etc.
C) the TV has no analogue outs.

This means I have the Sky box connected via HDMI cable to the TV & the Sky box has analogue which I connect straight to the all-analogue amp.

 

[MUSICRAFT]

but those plugs are rubbish and unlikely to last unless you want to clean them frequently

This IC cable has been used thousands of times over the last eleven years. The cable even been dropped and stepped on not intentionally btw. Despite this the cable has worked flawlessly.

 

[MUSICRAFT]

Sorry Rick. They look cheap & nasty. They are the sort of I/C I used to get as a freebie

Never judge a book by it's cover. If these basic interconnects are good enough for the Pontus II DAC/GAIA DDC @ £4080 then I feel they'll be also be more than good enough for a SKY box

 

[MUSICRAFT]

I agree, absolutely crap i/c's and yes they were the freebies bundled with audio stuff years ago....I throw them out myself. and that poor denafrips deserves better.lol.

The Pontus II DAC/GAIA DDC are in perfectly good hands. Thanks. This basic cable enables their and the qualities of other components costing far more to shine through just nicely by enabling them to breathe

Keep it simple. Simple is best

 

[MUSICRAFT]

no shieding whatsoever......

The cables are shielded

 

[MUSICRAFT]

Durable they ain't,

Still going strong eleven years on unlike some after market cables

 

[MUSICRAFT]

yet you can hear the benefits of a Sub.

I guess the sub/s in your two channel/music were not correctly aligned, calibrated and dialled in.

 

[MUSICRAFT]

all he seems to do is push subs. Says there is no difference in cables. Great business image.

You are more than welcome to use to after market cables with subwoofers

Btw, a subwoofer is the most important component

 

[MUSICRAFT]

It's rather odd that @MUSICRAFT is using such decent equipment with cables I would throw away.

The cables are more than decent

 

[MUSICRAFT]

Unfortunately he's not......🙄

I think I finally get where you are coming from. With all things being equal an after market IC cable will do a be job at frequencies between 60Hz - 90Hz then a correctly aligned, calibrated and dialled in subwoofer

 

[MUSICRAFT]

that a cable can affect the frequency response for some as yet unknown reason.....

Try using a basic cable with a GEQ. Then if need be you can alter the balance of the system with every track, album and component change and not rely on a cable to do so.

 

[Al ears]

I would suggest that however good those interconnects are at passing a signal they are, with those plugs, absolutely rubbish at avoiding tarnishing and are quite prone to fracturing if frequently removed and replaced to cure said tarnishing.
I should know, was poor enough once to have to actually use them.
still got the unused ones that came with my Sony DVD player and they are basically unusable without a good bath in a decent acid .....

 

[plastic penguin]

Never judge a book by it's cover. If these basic interconnects are good enough for the Pontus II DAC/GAIA DDC @ £4080 then I feel they'll be also be more than good enough for a SKY box

What part of I. AM. NOT. INTERESTED. do you not understand?

Please don't get the thread locked. It won't be the first time.

 

[MUSICRAFT]

What part of I. AM. NOT. INTERESTED. do you not understand?

So you’ve got a right to respond but by the sound of it I haven’t got a right to respond to your post accordingly. I haven’t said anything untoward.

Btw, I will respectfully say that perhaps in the first instance you should try and grasp what has been said given some of your clangers over the years. The most recent being your poor attempt to go out of your way to disprove that Leema stock we had was not ours and that we have never been their dealer. You still have not had the decency to apologise.

 

[Al ears]

So you’ve got a right to respond but by the sound of it I haven’t got a right to respond to your post accordingly. I haven’t said anything untoward.

Btw, I will respectfully say that perhaps in the first instance you should try and grasp what has been said given some of your clangers over the years. The most recent being your poor attempt to go out of your way to disprove that Leema stock we had was not ours and that we have never been their dealer. You still have not had the decency to apologise.

old grudges don't go away it would appear.
please attempt to be civil at least, it is not going to do your viability as a reputable dealer any good and members of long standing in general should be more considerate.
Continue along these lines and I am sure warnings will be issued by moderators

 

[Gray]

Well it reached 74 posts - not bad for any thread, let alone one about cables.