Epos ES 7N vs Harbeth p3esr for nearfield listening...

[suresh babu]

dear friends ,
for my desktop / near field listening ,after analysed so many reviews i have finalised 2 speakers are harbeth p3esr and epos es 7n..

in my area and surroundings , i dont have option for demo..

my favourite needs are high quality smooth , non fatigue sound for long listening..

voice rendering is my favourite than bass or treble.. simply on slightly warmer sound..

both the mentioned speakers are in my budget for used product.. around 1200-1300 GBP..

does anybody have experience of both the speakers side by side or individually on desktop setup than room setup ?

thank you

 

[Al ears]

I have not yet heard the Epos but as they have a switch for near-wall or bookshelf setting I would suggest these would be better for you depending on what you intend to drive them with.

 

[plastic penguin]

dear friends ,
for my desktop / near field listening ,after analysed so many reviews i have finalised 2 speakers are harbeth p3esr and epos es 7n..

in my area and surroundings , i dont have option for demo..

my favourite needs are high quality smooth , non fatigue sound for long listening..

voice rendering is my favourite than bass or treble.. simply on slightly warmer sound..

both the mentioned speakers are in my budget for used product.. around 1200-1300 GBP..

does anybody have experience of both the speakers side by side or individually on desktop setup than room setup ?

thank you

No idea about the Epos. The Harbeths are a fab little speaker but they need a good amp to hear them at their best. I had them on home demo for a couple of weeks a few years ago.

 

[daytona600]

Designer as desktop / Nearfield
Genelec G3 or Hedd 07 Type 2 ( Settings for almost any application )

 

[SenseiKofi]

dear friends ,
for my desktop / near field listening ,after analysed so many reviews i have finalised 2 speakers are harbeth p3esr and epos es 7n..

in my area and surroundings , i dont have option for demo..

my favourite needs are high quality smooth , non fatigue sound for long listening..

voice rendering is my favourite than bass or treble.. simply on slightly warmer sound..

both the mentioned speakers are in my budget for used product.. around 1200-1300 GBP..

does anybody have experience of both the speakers side by side or individually on desktop setup than room setup ?

thank you

Their vertical dispersion isn't smooth enough for nearfield use.

You're better of with speakers with better controlled directivity vertically.

 

[Al ears]

Their vertical dispersion isn't smooth enough for nearfield use.

You're better of with speakers with better controlled directivity vertically.

Just buy a foam wedge to place underneath them, your going to need some kind of support anyway if using on a desk.
I admit they may not be ideal for nearfield listening though.

 

[The_Lecht_Rocks]

ATC SCM7 option if amplification is capable ?

 

[Al ears]

ATC SCM7 option if amplification is capable ?

True but I would still take the front-ported Epos as much easier to drive.

 

[suresh babu]

I have not yet heard the Epos but as they have a switch for near-wall or bookshelf setting I would suggest these would be better for you depending on what you intend to drive them with.

thank you... now i am using audiolab 6000a amp.. does this amp will be enough for running those speakers? or do i need more expensive models ?

 

[Al ears]

thank you... now i am using audiolab 6000a amp.. does this amp will be enough for running those speakers? or do i need more expensive models ?

It should suffice with either of them but I would still suggest the Epos.

 

[SenseiKofi]

thank you... now i am using audiolab 6000a amp.. does this amp will be enough for running those speakers? or do i need more expensive models ?

You're gonna be nearfield so amplifier power is your last concern.

 

[davidf]

For nearfield listening, I'd always recommend something dual-concentric, so there's far less potential for phase issues. For non dual-concentric, Amphion would be worth investigating.

 

[plastic penguin]

For nearfield listening, I'd always recommend something dual-concentric, so there's far less potential for phase issues. For non dual-concentric, Amphion would be worth investigating.

Good call. I'll second Amphion....

 

[RoA]

AsciLab F6B (Paper driver) and C6B (Ceramic driver) may be worth considering depending on what amplification the OP is using. They had fantastic reviews from Erin and ASR.

They seem to require a very load tolerant amplifier dipping below 2ohms. Low sensitivity too as with most good small 2 ways. This will not make it a cheap combination.

Heard the Harbeth years ago so pointless to comment on it. Saw the Epos and it's larger derivatives at Winchester Hifi but did not listen to them. They look nice but that's all I can say.

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View: https://youtu.be/2I4WBxOsDDE?si=FqcuBTGDTrQvRkIb

 

[Jasonovich]

You've not mentioned the amp you'll be using. If you don't have one of those, I can suggest active speakers.
Hedd, Eve and Adam active speakers from Germany make excellent nearfield speakers.
In my study I have a nearfield setup and my Adam A7V's are amazing.

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[daytona600]

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[Gray]

I haven't heard the Epos, they could well be good.
But I have had a very good, extended close (semi- nearfield) listen to the Harbeths - in my own room

All I can say is that I can't imagine any speaker more perfectly matching those two specific requirements of yours:

my favourite needs are high quality smooth , non fatigue sound for long listening..

Nothing about their sound should fatigue you.

voice rendering is my favourite than bass or treble.. simply on slightly warmer sound..

I always use a pure speech test from BBC live radio and the Harbeths were about as natural as it gets.
You did mention a need for a 'slightly warmer sound'.
Well I didn't get any added warmth (using a Cyrus amplifier) but that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
Importantly, there was no obviously rolled-off treble.

 

[Al ears]

I haven't heard the Epos, they could well be good.
But I have had a very good, extended close (semi- nearfield) listen to the Harbeths - in my own room

All I can say is that I can't imagine any speaker more perfectly matching those two specific requirements of yours:

Nothing about their sound should fatigue you.

I always use a pure speech test from BBC live radio and the Harbeths were about as natural as it gets.
You did mention a need for a 'slightly warmer sound'.
Well I didn't get any added warmth (using a Cyrus amplifier) but that's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
Importantly, there was no obviously rolled-off treble.

You've not mentioned the amp you'll be using. If you don't have one of those, I can suggest active speakers.
Hedd, Eve and Adam active speakers from Germany make excellent nearfield speakers.
In my study I have a nearfield setup and my Adam A7V's are amazing.

ADAM Audio A7V review: A new standard for mid-size monitors?

The new, DSP-controlled A Series features room adaptation and meets the demanding listening needs of users.

musictech.com

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he has.
See post #9

 

[Jasonovich]

he has.
See post #9

Ah, audiolab 6000a. Sorry I missed that. Thanks!

 

[SenseiKofi]

AsciLab F6B (Paper driver) and C6B (Ceramic driver) may be worth considering depending on what amplification the OP is using. They had fantastic reviews from Erin and ASR.

They seem to require a very load tolerant amplifier dipping below 2ohms. Low sensitivity too as with most good small 2 ways. This will not make it a cheap combination.

Heard the Harbeth years ago so pointless to comment on it. Saw the Epos and it's larger derivatives at Winchester Hifi but did not listen to them. They look nice but that's all I can say.

Ascilab – Precision Redefined in Sound

Ascilab,C6B, F6B, A6B

ascilab.com

View: https://youtu.be/2I4WBxOsDDE?si=FqcuBTGDTrQvRkIb

Someone gets it. But I guess OP has already made up their mind. Was gonna recommend this but didn't because of them already having speakers in mind

 

[RoA]

Someone gets it. But I guess OP has already made up their mind. Was gonna recommend this but didn't because of them already having speakers

Someone gets it. But I guess OP has already made up their mind. Was gonna recommend this but didn't because of them already having speakers in mind

As good as the Audiolab is it would likely not have the ability to drive them properly.

 

[Tessie]

I am looking also for the Epos-es-7n speaker but they seem to be expensive for a 5" speaker.

I looking now at these 2 speakers with good measurements.

• The "AsciLab F6B" speaker (6" woofer), these ship worldwide.
• If you live in the US it is better to buy the "SIERRA-LX PAIR" (6" woofer)

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[davidf]

I am looking also for the Epos-es-7n speaker but they seem to be expensive for a 5" speaker.

Quantity doesn't always equate to quality...