Does AVI ADM9.1 beats a traditional system costing same amount.

[Andrew Everard]

pluto78:There is too much unsaid obvious directed comments here.

Again you seem to be finding meanings where there are none, and using them to support your own thesis...

 

[Andrew Everard]

There really are no subtle digs. But if you wish to have your account deleted, it can be done...

 

[Andrew Everard]

Account now deleted...

 

[Clare Newsome]

Curiouser and curiouser... Just to reiterate, anyone is more than welcome to write a review of their AVI system. I am at an utter loss why repeated statements of that nature should cause such consternation

 

[the record spot]

I'd have thought if anyone were worthy of some digs it'd be those of us here who spend a lot of time on the forum of a site that reviews up the latest kit by bigging up the kit of yester-decade!

("Buy this amp - built in 1955, it'll sound ace with an iPod!")

 

[Anonymous]

the record spot:I'd have thought if anyone were worthy of some digs it'd be those of us here who spend a lot of time on the forum of a site that reviews up the latest kit by bigging up the kit of yester-decade!

("Buy this amp - built in 1955, it'll sound ace with an iPod!")

yes Record spot ... was also wondering how an ipod would sound connected with your recommendation of a 1970's Sansui AU-217 ?

 

[the record spot]

LOL, well, am pretty tempted to get an interconnect to find out...

 

[Anonymous]

the record spot:LOL, well, am pretty tempted to get an interconnect to find out...

well you are one up on me ... I'd have to get a cable aswell as an ipod

 

[Clare Newsome]

I think my gorgeous Revox reel-to-reel is even older (and damn fine!)

 

[idc]

I can't decide between the AVI ADM9.1s, a BeoSound 3200 and a Bose Lifestyle 18. They are all over £1k and come from highly respected manufacturers. But they look so different and have so many different feeatures. Has anyone heard all of them and can help me out? I listen to lots of Scandinavian progressive rock. Thanks.

 

[chebby]

idc:I can't decide between the AVI ADM9.1s, a BeoSound 3200 and a Bose Lifestyle 18. They are all over £1k and come from highly respected manufacturers. But they look so different and have so many different feeatures. Has anyone heard all of them and can help me out? I listen to lots of Scandinavian progressive rock. Thanks.

The Beosound 3200 here. No question. (Yummy.)

 

[Andrew Everard]

pluto78:Yes please.

Does that mean you now want deleted the account you created immediately after I deleted your previous account of the same name at your request?

 

[the record spot]

idc:I can't decide between the AVI ADM9.1s, a BeoSound 3200 and a Bose Lifestyle 18. They are all over £1k and come from highly respected manufacturers. But they look so different and have so many different feeatures. Has anyone heard all of them and can help me out? I listen to lots of Scandinavian progressive rock. Thanks.

I'd be adding Aura's Note all in one to that. Just add speakers. Wonderful sound and a stunning design too. About £1500 or so.

 

[drummerman]

I have to say I like B&O's design philosophy and they seem to know what they are doing too, they've been at the cutting edge of technology for a long time. Perhaps not acceptable to some purists but a quick listen to their active speakers should convince some of those too.

 

[idc]

Er, serious advice, not what I was expecting! AVI, Bose and B&O are all marmite manufacturers who inspired heated debate. I thought if I put all three together the forum would explode.......

In any case, if the AVIs are good enough for the Messiah and al, they can be put on a wall and involve a minimum of wires and boxes, then they are top of my list. Hopefully others such as Audiengine will take AVIs lead and produce cheaper versions.

 

[the record spot]

drummerman:I have to say I like B&O's design philosophy and they seem to know what they are doing too, they've been at the cutting edge of technology for a long time. Perhaps not acceptable to some purists but a quick listen to their active speakers should convince some of those too.

For sure, those Beolab 9s (was it?) at about £5k are meant to be the mutt's whatsits. Very nice looking ones too.

As for B&O in general, one of the most impressive firms out there, influential, cutting edge, maybe they polarise opinion, but their credentials can't be questioned.

 

[the record spot]

Clare Newsome:I think my gorgeous Revox reel-to-reel is even older (and damn fine!)

Used to drool over Revox stuff in the mags years ago. So high end at the time and the design looked years ahead of the rest of the kit of the day. The words "Studer Revox" had such a high end ring to them.

Can you hook them up to the AVI's then?

(Okay, okay, let's not go there....!!!)

 

[Alec]

idc:

Er, serious advice, not what I was expecting! AVI, Bose and B&O are all marmite manufacturers who inspired heated debate. I thought if I put all three together the forum would explode.......

In any case, if the AVIs are good enough for the Messiah and al, they can be put on a wall and involve a minimum of wires and boxes, then they are top of my list. Hopefully others such as Audiengine will take AVIs lead and produce cheaper versions.

al? Do you mean me, you flatterrer (sp?), you?

I'm not sure how you are interpreting Escapism's use of the word "meaningless", Andrew, but I take it to mean people dont need a WHFS&V review in order to decide to buy something, and in that sense, he's right.

Also, I'm seeing a lot of "...they havent supplied a review set..." and not very much of "...but we could buy them...". OK, Clare said recently that you do'nt have the money; that may currently be true, but has it always been true? Have WHFS&V never had enough money in the buying kitty since the 9.1s "came out"?

Also, Andrew, I would have said:

"Because to borrow a pair from a staff member (or anyone else) would, were it to get a less than perfect review, just stir up another hornet's nest of forum intrigue and abuse."

Because it's true. Review them with less than 5 stars and there'll be a right ol' storm, regardless of who supplies them.

I wo'nt be one of the dissenters in any such storm, though. I'm happy enough with mine for now. Review or no, its all the same.

 

[Anonymous]

al7478:idc:

Er, serious advice, not what I was expecting! AVI, Bose and B&O are all marmite manufacturers who inspired heated debate. I thought if I put all three together the forum would explode.......

Because it's true. Review them with less than 5 stars and there'll be a right ol' stools storm, regardless of who supplies them.

told you so Andrew ... very clever marketing IMHO ... build up the hype and get owners to tout them ... they get 1 'pop' at a review which will generate loads of revenue if 5 stars are awarded

 

[idc]

al7478:idc:

....In any case, if the AVIs are good enough for the Messiah and al....

al? Do you mean me, you flatterrer (sp?), you?

Yes I meant you

. I would seriously consider kit that belongs to any of the forum regulars who clearly know their stuff.

Should What Hifi blow their budget and buy the AVIs (which I think you should), once you have finished with them, what do you do with such kit? Would you, like sell it......

 

[Andrew Everard]

al7478:I'm not sure how you are interpreting Escapism's use of the word "meaningless", Andrew, but I take it to mean people dont need a WHFS&V review in order to decide to buy something, and in that sense, he's right.

So why is there such an ongoing palaver about the fact we haven't reviewed them?

al7478:Also, I'm seeing a lot of "...they havent supplied a review set..."
and not very much of "...but we could buy them...". OK, Clare said
recently that you do'nt have the money; that may currently be true, but
has it always been true? Have WHFS&V never had enough money in the
buying kitty since the 9.1s "came out"?

I have no idea about the finances, other than that there isn't actually a buying kitty, and we have to justify any expenditure on review equipment. As a result, we tend only to buy products that are of interest to the wider readership, which we otherwise cannot source elsewhere.

al7478:Also, Andrew, I would have said:

"Because to borrow a pair from a staff member (or anyone else) would, were it to get a less than perfect review, just stir up another hornet's nest of forum intrigue and abuse."

Because it's true.

Yes, I'm sure you would. But for this product, and its predecessor, it seems even five stars aren't enough to satisfy the manufacturer.

 

[Andrew Everard]

idc:Should What Hifi blow their budget and buy the AVIs (which I think you should), once you have finished with them, what do you do with such kit? Would you, like sell it......

Yes, we have sold on review equipment in the past, either to people within the company or via E-bay. And I repeat that we only tend to buy products we consider of interest to the widest possible readership.

 

[chebby]

Andrew Everard:......we only tend to buy products we consider of interest to the widest possible readership.

This blew the budget for a few years to come.

I am still waiting for a Haymarket office temp to accidently put it on ebay with a 'Buy It Now' price of £33

 

[Andrew Everard]

chebby:This blew the budget for a few years to come.
I am still waiting for a Haymarket office temp to accidently put it on ebay with a 'Buy It Now' price of £33

No, that was supplied on loan for review, and we don't have any office temps.

 

[Alec]

1 - because people dont have the courage of their convictions, cant demo stuff easily, want to avoid AVI dealers but would quite like to hear them...possibly...but really, im perplexed.

2 - understood. afterall they are a relatively pricey niche product and justifying them may be difficult. Thanks for the answer.

3 - i agree. i was just making the point that there'd be a storm if a review paints them as less than perfect, or at least good enough to better a silly price system, or indeed not good enough. either way, you cant win, and thats regardless of how/when/if you review them and who supplies them, and regardless of the Ashley factor - there'd be planty of mud thrown by others.