DCT Treatment of powerkords review, AlienRik, Idc etc

[jase fox]

michael hoy:jase fox:michael hoy:
Jase.

Had my BDP running for 25 hrs now on the RA powerkord, I have to say wasn't expecting much, but yes, the picture and sound have both improved.

The PQ does look sharper almost 3D on Band of Brothers.

I agree Michael, as id use the word "3d" feel to films. Watching animation on bluray is jaw dropping mate, especially Ice age & Cars, its out of this world !

Only 25hrs you say? Ah well youve still got maybe 475 to go lol before it reaches Maximum performance.

hearing things more pronounced,

This Is what i also feel, every movie i watch is like a new remaster, Amazing stuff !!

 

[Anonymous]

Mine got delivered today and have just done a test on the CD player
swapping from the chord power chord on the CDP and the RA on the amp
and vice versa. The RA lead on the CPD player definitely makes it
louder, brighter and the background instruments are easier to make out
/ are more separated, although its not more enjoyable than the Powerchord as its a touch harsh / hard sounding. The chord is warmer but i guess this is to be expected given its been used / run in for a certain amount of time. I'm looking forward to the RA cable burning in properly as i think its
going to be better in the long run than the Chord cable. We shall see.....

 

[True Blue]

Gander, interesting initial review of the RA on the CDP comparered to the Chord Power Chord.

Must admit that even though we have "similar" setups I could not have described it as anywhere near the Chord. Mine is burning in now on my AV reciever, as it made my CDP sound "fluffy" no crispness to leading or trailing edges, less detailed as well. Still its working wonders on my reciever, so it may have found its home . Will be swapping around mind you when fully burnt in.

 

[Anonymous]

Yeah its interesting eh mate, i did expect to hear similar results to you but it would seem they are opposites! I will have another swap about when i have some time tomorrow, and when the mrs doesn't have to endure my geekiness and constant playing of he same track over and over. To be fair though, she is very good at noticing the difference with the kit and saying what she thinks is better etc.

 

[True Blue]

LOL, well I have had to disconnect my surround speakers and reciever for redecorating purposes so to aid the burn in I plugged RA DCT Powerkord into my PS3, really wish I had not..............am going to be another £70 worse off next month. Everything is better PQ SQ the whole damn lot, except my playing skills at PES2010.

 

[Anonymous]

lol, that's because you are playing the wrong game mate, get on fifa! (1st time ive bought it after being avid PES fan). One thing is for sure that the RA cable is a relative bargain.

 

[idc]

This is a cracking thread. It is great to get some long term reviews as well as the usual 'I just plugged it in and....'

 

[True Blue]

Just incase anyone is getting one of the Powerkord 8's for thier V+ box, the AC in is vertical and not horizontal so the arrow which is supposed to be on the top of the cable IMO goes towards the outside of the box. Mine looks cracking this way round. 100 hours in and still changing daily. Went through a period of horrible graining earlier today but that settled out ok. At this rate "burn in" will be complete on March 20th. Unless standby counts??

As for the DCT treated cord :-(, no hours for about a week due to all home cinema and non essentials being moved prior to decorating and new carpet. At this rate might be burnt in by XMAS :-(

 

[Anonymous]

jase fox:michael hoy:
Jase.

Had my BDP running for 25 hrs now on the RA powerkord, I have to say wasn't expecting much, but yes, the picture and sound have both improved.

The PQ does look sharper almost 3D on Band of Brothers.

I agree Michael, as id use the word "3d" feel to films. Watching animation on bluray is jaw dropping mate, especially Ice age & Cars, its out of this world !

Only 25hrs you say? Ah well youve still got maybe 475 to go lol before it reaches Maximum performance.

Cars, Ice Age, Madagascar - stunning, truly stunning.

 

[aliEnRIK]

True Blue:LOL, well I have had to disconnect my surround speakers and reciever for redecorating purposes so to aid the burn in I plugged RA DCT Powerkord into my PS3, really wish I had not..............am going to be another £70 worse off next month. Everything is better PQ SQ the whole damn lot, except my playing skills at PES2010.

Plugging a decent mains cable into my fat PS3 made a hugh difference, probably more than any other piece of equipment

 

[Anonymous]

Here is a copy of my reply to another post, by the way Jase , thanks you cost me a fortune but hopefully I'll thank you later


ValianTX:
That's a substantial investment in mains cables - what differences have they made?






Hi Valian

You are quite right a helava amount of money but in 2009 I have upgraded my whole system at a substantial cost and after reading Jase's thread and the improvement he says it is making I went for initally 1 Classic PowerKord and 1 PowerMaxT Plus to try them out

Now you'll think I am crazy because I cant tell you the difference at the moment as all my kit is boxed up as my cinema room is waiting for a plasterer as I replaced the windows in there, it also will get a fresh lick of paint.

That said and to mitigate buying the 3 extra cables I used the PowerMaxT Plus on my Panasonic plasma just to burn the cable in ,as it was originally bought for my projector, but the difference it has made to the plasma is noticable , so much so that I cant now go back to the original.cable

As everyone knows the sound on TV sets is very poor so much so that we usually watch SKY with subtitles enabled ,with the RA we no longer need to do so as the vocals are alot clearer and there is some improvement in low freq (not bass)

This was also noticed by my better half so the cable now has to stay on the plasma.

Therefore if the basic cable can make a difference to a rubbish system I am taking the chance that the higher end cable is justifiable on all my highend kit

So due to the bargain price , the free upgrade to Wattgate and DCT treating I bought one for each piece of kit before the Sale ends

If ,when I can use them and I feel it was not worth the money I can return within 30 days ,if that expires and the price goes back to retail I am confident I could sell them on flea Bay and get my money back

As usual with HiFI it is a case of diminishing returns with upgrding kit.

 

[Anonymous]

jase fox: Well the powerkord-8 im very pleased with, as its adding so much more depth to the picture, colours seem richer & more detail so overall impressed so far, i hope you get the same result mate?

OK let's back up a minute. I could be completely wrong here but are we talking about an IEC cable ? You're claiming all of the above, when all your cable is doing is just giving power to your source component which is doing all the work ?!!

You think that somehow the power lead is changing both your pq and aq in your source component ?! Wow mate - I've got a kettle that boils water more efficiently than any you can buy on the market. Are you interested ?

Please tell me this thread is a joke ??!!

 

[robjcooper]

Monsieur Le Force,

Actually I did plug a Ross Andreas "Magic Pixie Dust Elite" cable into my kettle and I have to say the water was much clearer and had a greater depth to its taste. Probably the nicest £200 cup of tea I've ever had. Now considering removing the heating element itself and replacing it with a solid gold loop, hand forged by one of the N'avi from Avatar who's just opened a specialist water boiling shop down the road which will I believe add a further 3 dimensionality to my water and for that I'm happy to pay £3578 plus VAT.....

....welcome to the wonderful world of cable debate !

 

[Anonymous]

robjcooper:
Monsieur Le Force,

Actually I did plug a Ross Andreas "Magic Pixie Dust Elite" cable into my kettle and I have to say the water was much clearer and had a greater depth to its taste. Probably the nicest £200 cup of tea I've ever had. Now considering removing the heating element itself and replacing it with a solid gold loop, hand forged by one of the N'avi from Avatar who's just opened a specialist water boiling shop down the road which will I believe add a further 3 dimensionality to my water and for that I'm happy to pay £3578 plus VAT.....

....welcome to the wonderful world of cable debate !

Bonjeur mon amie Rob. (Yea I'm sure I spelt that rubbish wrong but it's been like 20 years !)

Seems like at least someone else here is on my wavelength lol !

EDIT:Anyone with at least half a brain cell would've found Rob's 'Ross Andreas' a bit funny.....Non ?!

 

[JoelSim]

THE_FORCE:robjcooper:
Monsieur Le Force,

Actually I did plug a Ross Andreas "Magic Pixie Dust Elite" cable into my kettle and I have to say the water was much clearer and had a greater depth to its taste. Probably the nicest £200 cup of tea I've ever had. Now considering removing the heating element itself and replacing it with a solid gold loop, hand forged by one of the N'avi from Avatar who's just opened a specialist water boiling shop down the road which will I believe add a further 3 dimensionality to my water and for that I'm happy to pay £3578 plus VAT.....

....welcome to the wonderful world of cable debate !

Bonjeur mon amie Rob. (Yea I'm sure I spelt that rubbish wrong but it's been like 20 years !)

Seems like at least someone else here is on my wavelength lol !

EDIT:Anyone with at least half a brain cell would've found Rob's 'Ross Andreas' a bit funny.....Non ?!

IECs make a significant difference, well a good one will anyway.

 

[Anonymous]

JoelSim:
IECs make a significant difference, well a good one will anyway.

Ermmm Joel no offence but who/what internet site/company/individual have you been listening to ? Do you honestly think that a power lead is going to affect the pq or aq of a source component ?!!

Come on, honestly....do you really believe that ?!

In fact it gives me the needle that people are lead to believe this and it's promoted on various AV websites.

Use your own loaf. If you think that, then more fool you for buying into it. Ask any qualified electrician about the power lead, and what happens between plug and source, and then suit yourself !

 

[Anonymous]

ive never tried em , so it would be unfair to knock em , but , heres my logic , russ andrews sells them for , i dont know , £60-£100 ??

now , he has his overheads like any other business , so one might assume he would need to make £30-£40 per cable pre tax ,

he probably buys them in from china or somewhere , maybe a few thousand at a time , at a good price for him

now if they do really improve a tv , bluray player ,etc , why dont the likes of sony etc use them ??

they could buy them in the hundreds of thousands , probably much cheaper , or even make them themselves , why dont they ??

surely at least one of the big companies out there would steal a march on the competition and supply them with their av products ??

if the gain was noticeable , that would surely happen ?? they are doing just about anything else they can think of to improve performance , and thus sell more , make more money ??

supplying better powerkords would be an easy improvement for them , if they do indeed work ?? can anyone tell me why they dont ??

 

[Anonymous]

maxflinn:can anyone tell me why they dont ??

They work Max - just as any other IEC power cable does. All it does it feed power from the plug to the source.

IEC Power Cords HAVE NO ABILITY TO INCREASE YOUR PQ OR AQ QUALITY.

Please, unless you want to be taken for a muppet, don't buy into it like a muppet. Simple as.

 

[Anonymous]

well now i wouldnt call anyone who owns a powerkord a muppett , i would like to know why the tv makers dont supply them with their products though , its a fairly straightforward question for any believers out there ??

 

[Anonymous]

Yes you're right Max. It was unfair of me to use the term Muppet. If someone wants to spend their money on an overpriced IEC cord then that is completely their prerogative. Each to their own !!

 

[hammill]

maxflinn:well now i wouldnt call anyone who owns a powerkord a muppett , i would like to know why the tv makers dont supply them with their products though , its a fairly straightforward question for any believers out there ??
This is something I have often wondered too. Also, do any of the manafacturers use after market cables when they demo their products at shows etc?

 

[Anonymous]

So the force, do you think there could be some brain trickery involved in the perceived improvements?

 

[True Blue]

THE_FORCE:
maxflinn:can anyone tell me why they dont ??

They work Max - just as any other IEC power cable does. All it does it feed power from the plug to the source.

IEC Power Cords HAVE NO ABILITY TO INCREASE YOUR PQ OR AQ QUALITY.

Please, unless you want to be taken for a muppet, don't buy into it like a muppet. Simple as.

Firstly, please could we not get this thread closed down by going down a whole cable debate saga, you dont agree, fine thats your opinion. However, some of us do notice actual differences and this is a nice thread to talk about it.

Secondly, no-one is saying it feeds better "power" to the equipment, that is absurd to even think it. 230v AC is just that regardless what cable it goes down.

To set the scene now imagine you are at home and an aerial snapped off your indoor radio............not the end of the world, just go and get a piece of cable (or coathanger) and replace it. The radio will now recieve transmissions, why, because ALL wire whether speaker cable, power cable or interconnect cable can act as an aerial and pick up MFI and RFI.

What I am saying is the more expensive the cable the better effect it has of screening outside influences and interferences onto whatever signal path you are protecting, in the pursiut of an exact reproduction of your source material.

This too is the end of the argument regarding "the miles of rubbish cables to your hourse", all these cables are doing is preserving the exact nature of the source, not improving it, just screening out outside interference, as above, also wireless and microprocessors give off interference, within your home.

I am not as you say "a muppet", I believe in what I hear, and do not abuse those who cannot hear anything.

PS I am a qualified Chief Engineer holding a mechanical engineering degree and also authorised to work on high voltage systems.

 

[Anonymous]

NayTyson:So the force, do you think there could be some brain trickery involved in the perceived improvements?

The brain is the key to the problem Nay. Or shall I say, one's imagination. Grey matter is a funny old thing, and sometimes you can convince yourself of something even though it may indeed be false.

I'm a realist, and there is no scientifically quantifiable proof to date that using these treated IEC cables offer any improvement over either pq or aq. As long as the source component is getting the correct amount of power needed, which is what the bundled IEC cables do, then it will be the source component that is the deciding factor in any improvements.

I'd rather spend the money on some CD's/BD's or a nice meal out !

EDIT: True Blue I apologise about the muppet thing. I've just been having a chat to my bro' in law about this very topic - he's a manager for EDF London & South East, and a qualified sparky of 50 years. He had a little giggle to himself when I showed him this thread, then he shook his head. He didn't need to say anything !

 

[aliEnRIK]

THE_FORCE:

maxflinn:can anyone tell me why they dont ??

They work Max - just as any other IEC power cable does. All it does it feed power from the plug to the source.

IEC Power Cords HAVE NO ABILITY TO INCREASE YOUR PQ OR AQ QUALITY.

Please, unless you want to be taken for a muppet, don't buy into it like a muppet. Simple as.

Im bored of these debates, but Russ Andrews has PROVEN that braided mains cables 'measureably' reduce RFI in the mains signal