Budget hifi setup for organ music

[hec80]

Edited! I'm looking at sorting out a budget setup that will sound good for bassy classical that involves a lot of organ music. It needs to have Bluetooth as the person using it mainly streams stuff, and to be under £1000 (as far under as possible!) - I'm thinking of the Yamaha RS202D & Q Acoustics 3030i speakers. Has anyone got this / a similar setup - if so, how does it sound? Would I be better off adding a sub - in which case which amp would be best? Any other suggestions gratefully received!

 

[Al ears]

Edited! I'm looking at sorting out a budget setup that will sound good for bassy classical that involves a lot of organ music. It needs to have Bluetooth as the person using it mainly streams stuff, and to be under £1000 (as far under as possible!) - I'm thinking of the Yamaha RS202D & Q Acoustics 3030i speakers. Has anyone got this / a similar setup - if so, how does it sound? Would I be better off adding a sub - in which case which amp would be best? Any other suggestions gratefully received!

Unfortunately, and not knowing your room size, you are unlikely vto find a speaker system that will do justice to a grand piano let alone an organ.
Headphones perhaps??

 

[landco]

Edited! I'm looking at sorting out a budget setup that will sound good for bassy classical that involves a lot of organ music. It needs to have Bluetooth as the person using it mainly streams stuff, and to be under £1000 (as far under as possible!) - I'm thinking of the Yamaha RS202D & Q Acoustics 3030i speakers. Has anyone got this / a similar setup - if so, how does it sound? Would I be better off adding a sub - in which case which amp would be best? Any other suggestions gratefully received!

In your case, the frequency range goes down to 30 Hz, respectively, you either need a large stereo pair (of the inexpensive ones, this is the JBL E100 on the secondary market), or you need to add a subwoofer, making a 2.1 system (triphonic), Q Acoustics 3030i is a small bookshelf speaker, without a subwoofer she will not play the full musical range.

As for the amplifier, amplifiers of traditional circuitry (class AB) in the initial price range can turn off at high volume due to overheating protection. Therefore, in the budget segment, I recommend an amplifier in class D, for example, this

B50 SE Bluetooth Stereo Amplifier

50W x 2 Powerful Bluetooth Stereo Amplifier for Home TPA3116D2 Amplifier Chip with High Efficiency and Low Distortion. Bluetooth 5.0, Turn Your Old Speakers into Bluetooth. 15M Long Distance Transmittion and Low lantency. Free iOS & Android Go CONTROL APP with EQ.

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[hec80]

In your case, the frequency range goes down to 30 Hz, respectively, you either need a large stereo pair (of the inexpensive ones, this is the JBL E100 on the secondary market), or you need to add a subwoofer, making a 2.1 system (triphonic), Q Acoustics 3030i is a small bookshelf speaker, without a subwoofer she will not play the full musical range.

As for the amplifier, amplifiers of traditional circuitry (class AB) in the initial price range can turn off at high volume due to overheating protection. Therefore, in the budget segment, I recommend an amplifier in class D, for example, this

B50 SE Bluetooth Stereo Amplifier

50W x 2 Powerful Bluetooth Stereo Amplifier for Home TPA3116D2 Amplifier Chip with High Efficiency and Low Distortion. Bluetooth 5.0, Turn Your Old Speakers into Bluetooth. 15M Long Distance Transmittion and Low lantency. Free iOS & Android Go CONTROL APP with EQ.

www.arylic.com

Thanks for your input - I've been rethinking & now looking at Wharfedale Diamond 230 speakers with the amp - have arranged to demo the setup at Richer Sounds

 

[hec80]

Unfortunately, and not knowing your room size, you are unlikely vto find a speaker system that will do justice to a grand piano let alone an organ.
Headphones perhaps??

I know it's not going to be anywhere near perfect, but the person it's for is currently using a 6 year old Bose Soundlink Mini so hopefully we can improve on that. She doesn't want headphones. Now looking at floorstanders - possibly Wharfedale Diamond 230s

 

[landco]

Thanks for your input - I've been rethinking & now looking at Wharfedale Diamond 230 speakers with the amp - have arranged to demo the setup at Richer Sounds

XLS Series 15" 3-Way Passive Speaker

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[gasolin]

Not a problem

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There are a little left for cables and stands

Passive
https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/integrated-amplifier/fosi-audio-bt20a-pro-class-d-amplifier-tpa3255-bluetooth-50-2x225w-4-ohm-p-17556.html
(tone controls and bluetooth )

Remember to get a bigger power supply for more power

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Mission LX-6 MKII

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[podknocker]

Edited! I'm looking at sorting out a budget setup that will sound good for bassy classical that involves a lot of organ music. It needs to have Bluetooth as the person using it mainly streams stuff, and to be under £1000 (as far under as possible!) - I'm thinking of the Yamaha RS202D & Q Acoustics 3030i speakers. Has anyone got this / a similar setup - if so, how does it sound? Would I be better off adding a sub - in which case which amp would be best? Any other suggestions gratefully received!

For what it's worth, I listen to a bit of Bach now and then and my QA3030i certainly do reach down into the lower registers of the pipe organs on my CDs. Also, I owned a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 230 and I got a pair of these for £199 at RS a few years ago. They would be ideal for listening to the church organ, but for me, the bass was very bloated and boomy in my living room and I found it really annoying with the music I mainly listen to.

 

[gasolin]

qa3030i with the fosi audio v3 (cooling) from audiophonics + a bt unit

Can get cheaper and better if it has to be new

https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/inte...d-amplifier-tpa3255-2x225w-4-ohm-p-17954.html or a little cheaper from ebay

Fosi Audio V3 TPA3255 Verstärker Audio Stereo 2 Kanal Lautsprecher HiFi 48V/32V | eBay

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Bluetooth 5.0 Receiver Transmitter Micro SD RCA Jack 3.5mm - Audiophonics

This small Bluetooth 5.0 receiver and transmitter offered at a low price will allow you to broadcast your music wirelessly to a classic audio system or a headphone for example.

www.audiophonics.fr

 

[gasolin]

Have had a yamaha A-S301, i thought it wasn't good at bass, lacked punch, was to soft

 

[hec80]

For what it's worth, I listen to a bit of Bach now and then and my QA3030i certainly do reach down into the lower registers of the pipe organs on my CDs. Also, I owned a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 230 and I got a pair of these for £199 at RS a few years ago. They would be ideal for listening to the church organ, but for me, the bass was very bloated and boomy in my living room and I found it really annoying with the music I mainly listen to.

Thank you - that's really helpful. Hopefully RS will also have the 3030i's (or at least 3020i's) in the shop too so we can compare the sounds😁

 

[gasolin]

the bass was very bloated and boomy in my living room and I found it really annoying with the music I mainly listen to.

Did you try the foam plugs in the bass port ?

 

[hec80]

Not a problem

Yamaha WXC-50 Wireless Streaming Pre-Amplifier

The WXC-50 is a new-concept audio component that goes beyond conventional audio thinking. It let you access a wide variety of audio content such as music from streaming services or stored on a smartphone, and enjoy high quality sound and style thanks to the ability to network with Yamaha’s...

petertyson.co.uk

LD Systems Dave 8 XS

Compact PA/Media System Consists of: 1x Active band pass subwoofer with 1x 8" speaker and 2x 2x 4"/1" satellites, System power: 150 W sub + 2x 100W top, Frequency range: 45 - 19.000 Hz, SPL: 117 dB max, Connectors: XLR/Jack and RCA inputs, speaker...

www.thomann.de

There are a little left for cables and stands

Passive
https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/integrated-amplifier/fosi-audio-bt20a-pro-class-d-amplifier-tpa3255-bluetooth-50-2x225w-4-ohm-p-17556.html
(tone controls and bluetooth )

Remember to get a bigger power supply for more power

Fosi Audio 48V 5A Power Supply Adapter for TB10D, BT20A PRO,V3

Power your audio devices with the Fosi Audio 48V 5A Power Supply Adapter. Perfect for TB10D, BT20A PRO, V3 models. Get powerful sound instantly.

fosiaudioshop.com

Mission LX-6 MKII

Mission LX-6 MKII (Black)

Shop for Mission LX-6 MKII (Black) Speaker Pair with Richer Sounds for a 6 Year Guarantee, expert advice and Lowest Prices Guaranteed

www.richersounds.com

Elac Debut F6.2

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petertyson.co.uk

Wow - thank you - loads to think about there. I'm trying really hard not to get mission creep & end up causing her to spend more than she wants to (if I were choosing a system for myself it would be different, but am trying to balance "sensible" with decent sound...) But the more things I consider the better

 

[podknocker]

Did you try the foam plugs in the bass port ?

I think the bass port was at the base, above the plinth and it would have been tricky to close that off.

 

[gasolin]

I think the bass port was at the base, above the plinth and it would have been tricky to close that off.

My fault, mabye i was thinking about the diamond 12.4

What amp did you try use ?

Tighter sounding amp, an amp with higher damping factor, im currently using qed silver anniversary xt that has a faily controlled not boomy bass, what cables did you use ?

You could have bi amped them for better bass control ?

 

[podknocker]

My fault, mabye i was thinking about the diamond 12.4

What amp did you try use ?

Tighter sounding amp, an amp with higher damping factor, im currently using qed silver anniversary xt that has a faily controlled not boomy bass, what cables did you use ?

You could have bi amped them for better bass control ?

I used a Quad Vena 2 and looking back, I think this might have been the cause of the boomy bass. It certainly played a part. It failed and it got chucked. Quad are dreadful and it won't happen again.

Biamping's not going to be an option for me. Far too pricey for the difference, if any.

Also, at the risk of upsetting the moderators and setting off their alarm, cabling's not going to make a difference to the sound.

 

[podknocker]

I currently own an Audiolab Omnia and a pair of QA 3030i, on the end of TQ Ultra Blue cabling.

The reasons I bought the fancy cabling is firstly, it's blue and secondly, it's like a ribbon and easy to route etc.

Many cheaper cables are quite stiff and very tricky to locate.

I'm happy with the sound, even for a bit of Bach, but looking for a speaker with a bit more treble now.

 

[gasolin]

Try a silver cable for more highs

 

[Deleted member 201267]

Try a silver cable for more highs

How does that help ?

 

[podknocker]

A very informative video:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx4CAwSLXkY

 

[gasolin]

I does in most cases have more highs,a brighter sound

 

[podknocker]

I does in most cases have more highs,a brighter sound

There is ZERO evidence to support this.

 

[podknocker]

I don't know where people get the idea that a silver cable will give them a brighter sound than a copper one. Perhaps it's that thing, where you associate a colour with a certain sound, a bit like synaesthesia? It's a similar reason why Kodak chose that word, because it sounds like a camera shutter clicking, as you press the button. Ko-dak. Clicky etc. People associate a feature, or quality with something they think is appropriate for that product, but which is totally erroneous. I sort of get where their coming from, but then again, no. It's strange.

 

[Deleted member 201267]

I does in most cases have more highs,a brighter sound

But how exactly ?

 

[gasolin]

Don't ask me how it does it, i don't know the technical reasons

All i know is silver cables can sound different in the high compared to copper cables, often it's brighter