Black Ravioli

[Native_bon]

You may not care what anyone thinks but you do presumably care about and enjoy music.

In that case, please take this advice, it is genuinely meant.... go to a local dealer that does higher end hi fi, or wherever you got your cremonas from. Tell them, you use an AVR and people say, a dedicated stereo amp is better. Please can they show you what a decent stereo set up sounds like, as you might be interested in a decent stereo amp if you like what you hear.

Now... you have nothing to lose by following that advice, and quite a bit to gain.

Thats all im saying, and I mean it in a friendly way.

You have all that nice equipment and you cannot see the difference between an AV amp and dedicated stereo amp?

I have a decent AV amp (Sony STR 5400ES) bought for its apparent musicality. Now, I absolutely hate when people on internet forums use the term "night and day difference", but to my mind the differnence is absolutely night and day.

Well you see.. thats not to say all AV amps are like your sony AV amp!!..

How do you listen to music. CD through your oppo blu ray plaer? and then through a £600 Marantz AVR?

And those through SF Cremona????

Total mismatch if ever I heard of one. Those are KILLER speakers. Why are you feeding them this way, its tantamount to cruelty.

I lived with music though my AVR for a year or two. Trust me, your speakers deserve far better and you are simply missing out. With equipment like that, no amount of Black Ravioli is going to make a jot of difference.

Cause I use my ears.. I dnt care what anyone thinks.. I only care of what sounds good to my ears!! I dnt seem o have a problem with it.. Have you heard my system..?

Krlock3, Am not a novice.. I have listen to so many 2 channel amps.. But i do understand your friendly advice.. Am a music producer & i know when i hear what sounds good to my ears..

Thanx

 

[CnoEvil]

On another forum I saw a picture of them decommissioning a submarine and it really does look like there are pads of BR coming off it!

I think Chebby might have been right......now where did I leave my Geiger Counter. :O

 

[Anonymous]

 

[Helmut80]

:dance:

On another forum I saw a picture of them decommissioning a submarine and it really does look like there are pads of BR coming off it!

I think Chebby might have been right......now where did I leave my Geiger Counter. :O

What's a bit of radiation on the way to audio nirvana, right?

 

[hammill]

On another forum I saw a picture of them decommissioning a submarine and it really does look like there are pads of BR coming off it!

I think Chebby might have been right......now where did I leave my Geiger Counter. :O

Well it might not make your HiFi sound any better, but at least you will be able ti find it in the dark.

 

[CnoEvil]

Are you sure they are not putting it down, as it might help with an Asteroid strike! :shifty:

 

[relocated]

You have all that nice equipment and you cannot see the difference between an AV amp and dedicated stereo amp?

I have a decent AV amp (Sony STR 5400ES) bought for its apparent musicality. Now, I absolutely hate when people on internet forums use the term "night and day difference", but to my mind the differnence is absolutely night and day.

Well you see.. thats not to say all AV amps are like your sony AV amp!!..

How do you listen to music. CD through your oppo blu ray plaer? and then through a £600 Marantz AVR?

And those through SF Cremona????

Total mismatch if ever I heard of one. Those are KILLER speakers. Why are you feeding them this way, its tantamount to cruelty.

I lived with music though my AVR for a year or two. Trust me, your speakers deserve far better and you are simply missing out. With equipment like that, no amount of Black Ravioli is going to make a jot of difference.

Cause I use my ears.. I dnt care what anyone thinks.. I only care of what sounds good to my ears!! I dnt seem o have a problem with it.. Have you heard my system..?

Is there even the remotest possibility that anyone has put together the exact same system as you have?

I see that you have RA Crystal 24. Another company that has fallen foul of ASA investigations into unsubstantiated claims.

 

[CnoEvil]

:dance:

On another forum I saw a picture of them decommissioning a submarine and it really does look like there are pads of BR coming off it!

I think Chebby might have been right......now where did I leave my Geiger Counter. :O

What's a bit of radiation on the way to audio nirvana, right?

Nope!

I like my system to have "full life" not "half life".

 

[Native_bon]

You have all that nice equipment and you cannot see the difference between an AV amp and dedicated stereo amp?

I have a decent AV amp (Sony STR 5400ES) bought for its apparent musicality. Now, I absolutely hate when people on internet forums use the term "night and day difference", but to my mind the differnence is absolutely night and day.

Well you see.. thats not to say all AV amps are like your sony AV amp!!..

How do you listen to music. CD through your oppo blu ray plaer? and then through a £600 Marantz AVR?

And those through SF Cremona????

Total mismatch if ever I heard of one. Those are KILLER speakers. Why are you feeding them this way, its tantamount to cruelty.

I lived with music though my AVR for a year or two. Trust me, your speakers deserve far better and you are simply missing out. With equipment like that, no amount of Black Ravioli is going to make a jot of difference.

Cause I use my ears.. I dnt care what anyone thinks.. I only care of what sounds good to my ears!! I dnt seem o have a problem with it.. Have you heard my system..?

Is there even the remotest possibility that anyone has put together the exact same system as you have?

I see that you have RA Crystal 24. Another company that has fallen foul of ASA investigations into unsubstantiated claims.

I like the sound of these speaker cables.... Have you listened to them personally..?.. does not mean to say i agree with everyhing I listen to.. When i like what i hear I buy it. Its as simple as ABC...

See what i mean. If its not the norm people seem to have a problem with it.... As suppose to the ears doing the job..

 

[the record spot]

You have all that nice equipment and you cannot see the difference between an AV amp and dedicated stereo amp?

I have a decent AV amp (Sony STR 5400ES) bought for its apparent musicality. Now, I absolutely hate when people on internet forums use the term "night and day difference", but to my mind the differnence is absolutely night and day.

100% of the time? Are you sure about that? Really, really sure?

'cos, I think you might be wrong there....

 

[jjbomber]

Why would anyone pay a massive premium for a Rolex .

Because we can.

 

[Andrew Everard]

I'm pasta caring.

 

[Singslinger]

Why would anyone pay a massive premium for a Rolex .

Because we can.

Exactly. :cheers:

 

[Macspur]

On another forum I saw a picture of them decommissioning a submarine and it really does look like there are pads of BR coming off it!

Well, I had a meeting tonight with a guy who was heavily involved with the development of BR... and yes the original incarnation was used in isolating/shielding the computer onboard a nuclear sub.

Mac

 

[shadders]

Hi,

I had a quick read of the forum post - read the ASA details and looked at their (Black Ravioli) web site.

The advert claimed that the product eliminates bad vibrations - i would assume all vibrations are eliminated.

On the forum, someone has stated that nuclear submarine material is used ?.

What would work just as good is an old sock filled with sand. The reason perhaps vibration elimination is used on subs is that they are then less detectable using passive sonar. The reason subs do not use old socks filled with sand is that the material needs to be light, neutral density (will not sink or float), and not affected by water - else the submarine would sink.

So rather than pay £200 for these products, buy some sand from B&Q, fill up a few socks and it should make a difference.

Regards,

Shadders.

 

[jcbrum]

Anechoic tiles on the hull of HMS Triumph. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anechoic_tiles JC

 

[floyd droid]

The reason subs do not use old socks filled with sand is that the material needs to be light, neutral density (will not sink or float), and not affected by water - else the submarine would sink.

Plus they tend stink a bit dunnum.

 

[jjbomber]

On the forum, someone has stated that nuclear submarine material is used ?.What would work just as good is an old sock filled with sand.

Not much of a deterrent though is it? The Germans try to invade in their u-boats and our defense comprises of a sock filled with sand? What do we do? Wait for the Germans to poke their head out of the hatch and bop them over the head? Maybe the smell of old socks will knock them out? I know we have government cutbacks, but socks filled with sand? Really.

 

[jcbrum]

. . . but socks filled with sand? Really.

About as much use as putting anechoic tiles on your amplifier.

:?

JC

 

[atticus]

. . . but socks filled with sand? Really.

About as much use as putting anechoic tiles on your amplifier.

:?

JC

Bazinga!

 

[jcbrum]

. . . but socks filled with sand? Really.

About as much use as putting anechoic tiles on your amplifier.

:?

JC

Having said that, I suppose it might prevent it from getting hit by sonar-guided torpedoes, though.

:roll:

JC

 

[shadders]

Hi,

The Black Ravioli are meant to stop vibrations - this is how they are supposed to work from the advert that was reported.

So old socks with sand is equivalent. The only reason the company has stated they are using nuclear submarine material (if they are, this is a statement by forum poster, so i cannnot confirm) is that it sounds sexy and they can charge you a lot of money.

If old socks and sand were feasible for use on a submarine - they would use them. You cannot use old socks and sand as they are too heavy and get wet, hold water and would sink the submarine. So they engineered an alternative.

Just because a nuclear submarine used a special material does not mean that my Grandma's old socks and a bit of sand is not equivalent for hifi.

Regards,

Shadders.

 

[the record spot]

About as much use as putting anechoic tiles on your amplifier.

:?

JC

Eh?

*takes them off again*

 

[the record spot]

Hi,

The Black Ravioli are meant to stop vibrations - this is how they are supposed to work from the advert that was reported.

So old socks with sand is equivalent. The only reason the company has stated they are using nuclear submarine material (if they are, this is a statement by forum poster, so i cannnot confirm) is that it sounds sexy and they can charge you a lot of money.

If old socks and sand were feasible for use on a submarine - they would use them. You cannot use old socks and sand as they are too heavy and get wet, hold water and would sink the submarine. So they engineered an alternative.

Just because a nuclear submarine used a special material does not mean that my Grandma's old socks and a bit of sand is not equivalent for hifi.

Regards,

Shadders.

Just another take on sticking a house brick on top of your amp or CD player that was popular in the late 90s. Maybe just in more granular form!

 

[floyd droid]

Just another take on sticking a house brick on top of your amp or CD player that was popular in the late 90s. Maybe just in more granular form!

Twasnt that long back that folk* on this forum where doing that. I remember advising against if you had a top loader :twisted:

* Got my diplomatic head on today