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relocated said:
Nick, You absolutely would not get flamed at all. Most people have been down various hifi roads and have owned Naim and all sorts of other stuff and some still do. The only time you get flamed or kicked off is if you deliberately post to be a pain in the bottom. Ash insists that people treat each other with respect. He even encourages people who do or are going to manufacture a competitor product to join in the forum, eg Moos.

Come on in, join up and have a civilised communication with other hifi[and other passtimes] lovers.

Yes, indeed. But the moderation is loaded IMO and in my experience biased. I had it when Max posted some tripe that was plainly off the wall and untrue, requested Ash to remove it, he didn't. I left, happily.

Yes, some good stuff on that forum, but watch out, Naim gets pasted, this forum gets pasted over there, audiophiles and "foo" gets pasted and the objectvity goes out the window. This forum has a broad church, few of the audiophiles they'd have you believe exist over there and more welcoming.

Give it a spin though, when the advice is good, it's alright, but the spin is very prevalent. Forewarned is forearmed, etc.
 
BigH said:
SOrry Jon, I think you misunderstood my question about the tweeters I was expecting something a bit more expensive than those tweeters in your speakers.

I've been told "It's not what you've got, it's how you use it that counts..."

;-)

J+AAtxxx
 
FrankHarveyHiFi said:
Is it just me or does that graph not make sense?

Yup, but it matches the experience.

http://hifipig.com/national-audio-show-2012-paulstop-6-rooms/

http://www.theaudiobeat.com/nas2012/nas2012_alacrity_audio.htm

http://www.hifiwigwam.com/showthread.php?74882-Whittlebury-Show-2012/page12
 
RobinKidderminster said:
I cannot find yr speakers on yr retailers sites. I have looked at 3. Im off to bed. Goodnight all

Sorry, their sites are out of my control. I'm sure that if you were to contact the nearest one, they would be able to help.

Sleep well.

J+AAt
 
RobinKidderminster said:
"Let the sound deal with your EARS" or let your ears deal with the sound? Gosh I'm pickin' nits now! :wall:

Yes you are. It's the sound, from the speakers, that deals to your ears... the experience. Cause and effect, not the other way round.

J+AAt
 
JonAlacrityA said:
Yup, but it matches the experience.

Ok, can you explain then just so that I do understand? You've put a sweep through the speakers which is a flat 55.7dB? And then you've stated at various frequencies which ones are up or down on that 55.7dB? Am I understanding that right?
 
JonAlacrityA said:
FrankHarveyHiFi said:
JonAlacrityA said:
Yup, but it matches the experience.

Ok, can you explain then just so that I do understand? You've put a sweep through the speakers which is a flat 55.7dB? And then you've stated at various frequencies which ones are up or down on that 55.7dB? Am I understanding that right?

Um, it sweeped, beeped and shushed me, in three different positions, then printed that thing out. It's fact.

Go chase XTZ and asked if they can be hacked.

J+AAt

Um, told you we were the best.

J+AAt
 
FrankHarveyHiFi said:
JonAlacrityA said:
Yup, but it matches the experience.

Ok, can you explain then just so that I do understand? You've put a sweep through the speakers which is a flat 55.7dB? And then you've stated at various frequencies which ones are up or down on that 55.7dB? Am I understanding that right?

Um, it sweeped, beeped and shushed me, in three different positions, then printed that thing out. It's fact.

Go chase XTZ and asked if they can be hacked.

J+AAt
 
I'm genuinely asking to make sure I understand what I'm seeing - but I'm not getting any answers. If I am right, are the pluses above or below the 55.7dB line?
 
FrankHarveyHiFi said:
I'm genuinely asking to make sure I understand what I'm seeing - but I'm not getting any answers. If I am right, are the pluses above or below the 55.7dB line?

The amplifier was controlled by the PC.

It sent test signals at the indicated levels and measured, by it's own calibrated microphone, the output from the loudspeaker. It is so sophisticated that it can tell you where the mic is situated in the room.

It took three measurements, then gave a room averaged output. That is what you see in the graph.

I've never seen anything like it in my life, and neither has XTZ.

These speakers are new tech; new physics.

E.G.; THEY NEVER MOVE (+/- 1-2 mm MAX @ 100W)

J+AAt
 
FrankHarveyHiFi said:
I'm genuinely asking to make sure I understand what I'm seeing - but I'm not getting any answers. If I am right, are the pluses above or below the 55.7dB line?

I can see your point. The bars seem to be the inverse of the text. Odd, too, that 1kHz isn't at the reference level, which I thought was the convention.
 
steve_1979 said:
JonAlacrityA said:
These speakers are new tech; new physics.

Oooh new technology? That sounds interesting.

They look like regular passive two-way speakers to me. What's special about them?

Um, company rules state that u go to our site or read the last 3 pages.
 
steve_1979 said:
JonAlacrityA said:
These speakers are new tech; new physics.

Oooh new technology? That sounds interesting.

They look like regular passive two-way speakers to me. What's special about them?

Um, company rules state that u go to our site or read the last 3 pages.
 
JonAlacrityA said:
steve_1979 said:
JonAlacrityA said:
These speakers are new tech; new physics.

Oooh new technology? That sounds interesting.

They look like regular passive two-way speakers to me. What's special about them?

Um, company rules state that u go to our site or read the last 3 pages.
I'm allowed to provide a link as I don't make or sell them...

http://alacrityaudio.co.uk/acoustic-induction/

http://alacrityaudio.co.uk/2012/11/21/audio-induction-how-it-works/
 
steve_1979 said:
JonAlacrityA said:
These speakers are new tech; new physics.

Oooh new technology? That sounds interesting.

They look like regular passive two-way speakers to me. What's special about them?

Seems to be something called "acoustic induction" which is responsible for that awesome looking frequency response. If it does work as shown in the graphs, then I think Alacracity Audio really ought to consider licensing the technology to other manufacturers.

Having a relatively flat frequency down to subsonic levels is impressive for the largest speakers, much less a small monitor.

I would love to hear a pair to determine if that impressive bass response is at the expense of anything else, or just a genuine technological advancement.
 
JonAlacrityA said:
steve_1979 said:
JonAlacrityA said:
These speakers are new tech; new physics.

Oooh new technology? That sounds interesting.

They look like regular passive two-way speakers to me. What's special about them?

Um, company rules state that u go to our site or read the last 3 pages.

I'm pretty sure the rules allow you to discuss your technology if asked. As long as you don't take the opportunity to turn it into a sales pitch or bash competitors.

Very nice frequency response btw.
 
Ajani said:
steve_1979 said:
JonAlacrityA said:
These speakers are new tech; new physics.

Oooh new technology? That sounds interesting.

They look like regular passive two-way speakers to me. What's special about them?

Seems to be something called "acoustic induction" which is responsible for that awesome looking frequency response. If it does work as shown in the graphs, then I think Alacracity Audio really ought to consider licensing the technology to other manufacturers.

Having a relatively flat frequency down to subsonic levels is impressive for the largest speakers, much less a small monitor.

I would love to hear a pair to determine if that impressive bass response is at the expense of anything else, or just a genuine technological advancement.

There might be a dealer near you. Check our map or ring your local establishment. We can sort auditions PDQ

J+AAt
 
Ajani said:
steve_1979 said:
JonAlacrityA said:
These speakers are new tech; new physics.

Oooh new technology? That sounds interesting.

They look like regular passive two-way speakers to me. What's special about them?

Seems to be something called "acoustic induction" which is responsible for that awesome looking frequency response. If it does work as shown in the graphs, then I think Alacracity Audio really ought to consider licensing the technology to other manufacturers.

Would love to. Tried it before but no body believed me.

Would love to do it now; Ali bodies from casting manufacturers, stone-slab cabs, yacht birch ply, different build techniques from different furniture craftsmen, a Blitz on the hifi world, all the trades pulling together to get my tech out there in all their different styles. Mmm, with a world beating advantage? YES PLEASE!!!

Having a relatively flat frequency down to subsonic levels is impressive for the largest speakers, much less a small monitor.

I would love to hear a pair to determine if that impressive bass response is at the expense of anything else, or just a genuine technological advancement.

Again, where are you based? It would be my pleasure to arrange such a demonstration for you.
 
chebby said:
JonAlacrityA said:
steve_1979 said:
JonAlacrityA said:
These speakers are new tech; new physics.

Oooh new technology? That sounds interesting.

They look like regular passive two-way speakers to me. What's special about them?

Um, company rules state that u go to our site or read the last 3 pages.
I'm allowed to provide a link as I don't make or sell them...

http://alacrityaudio.co.uk/acoustic-induction/

http://alacrityaudio.co.uk/2012/11/21/audio-induction-how-it-works/

As far as a can tell (I'm no expert) but those pages only seem to describe what you claim your speaker can do but it doesn't explain how they actually manage to achieve it.

Jon, would you mind expanding on that description a bit and explain in more detail exactly how your speakers actually work. Thanks. (I apologise if I've misunderstood something in your original description due to my lack of knowlege regarding speaker designs).
 
New physics eh? Unnexplained graphs. Is all this the tech breakthrough or new magic or snake oil? This thread has developed now into 6th dimension. Parallel universes. Paranormal or what? We needed this! Thanks. 🙂
 

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