Asking for a discount without being an insulting idiot

[BrianRostron]

Ben - I actually tried some ATC SCM100asl's. The must have the best mid range performance possible for money, very impressive indeed. In many ways I loved them. The bass was just so lean for my taste, they ran to very low frequencies but just not much there. With a decent sub though...... could be excellent I guess.

And what's all this salesmen stuff! Stop it guys! Each to his own, and a decent salesman (rather than one just interested in a sale) is worth his or her weight in gold. Plus my mate was a salesman, and he is now semi retred and worth a mint!

 

[John Duncan]

some will say AVI sounds better for 1/10th of the price :clap:

Some will. Ask them if they've ABXed them.

You think they'll sound the same?

I have no idea.

 

[BenLaw]

Ben - I actually tried some ATC SCM100asl's. The must have the best mid range performance possible for money, very impressive indeed. In many ways I loved them. The bass was just so lean for my taste, they ran to very low frequencies but just not much there. With a decent sub though...... could be excellent I guess.

And what's all this salesmen stuff! Stop it guys! Each to his own, and a decent salesman (rather than one just interested in a sale) is worth his or her weight in gold. Plus my mate was a salesman, and he is now semi retred and worth a mint!

Ah yes, I recall now. Have you tried any planar speakers? I'm guessing you have the space if you're contemplating blades.

 

[BenLaw]

some will say AVI sounds better for 1/10th of the price :clap:

Some will. Ask them if they've ABXed them.

You think they'll sound the same?

I have no idea.

I think you have some idea.

 

[matthewpiano]

You also need to demo widely IMO at this price point. Try to listen to a variety of solutions, including planar speakers and some big actives, like ATC.

Agreed. With such a large budget this is the only sensible thing to do. I think I'd probably spend about a year trying stuff before spending at that level! (Not that I'm ever going to have that budget)

 

[BrianRostron]

No! Planar speakers completely off my radar! So, worth checking out I guess?

 

[BrianRostron]

And Cno, feel free to post bank account number and sort code etc. I'll see how much cash is left after the weekend ......

 

[Bigsounds]

You miss the point. Do you think Brad Pitt asks for discounts on a Rolls Royce? Snob market, mate.

Probably the tightest people I know are the ones with shed loads of money...and thats why

Ask for discount and salesmen are there to be abused and insulted

If they didn't want to be they should have paid more attention at school

Looking at the level of your gear, your the one that should have paid more attention at school. Working in sales is one of the best jobs one could have.

 

[John Duncan]

some will say AVI sounds better for 1/10th of the price :clap:

Some will. Ask them if they've ABXed them.

You think they'll sound the same?

I have no idea.

I think you have some idea.

Actually, I think you're right - I suspect they would sound different. I don't know which I would prefer as I've only heard one.

 

[Tarxman]

Lie !. If dealer B says " that will be 32,800 quid to you sir ". You respond with " laters mate dealer A quoted me 27k ". Would be surprised if you make it to the door without being called back.

Alternatively just ask what kind of discount would be on offer if you bought these things. If you get a negative , walk !. You are not being insulting just asking a question.

More importantly , if you are going to drop 30k on gear , you best be bloody sure to get it right because you are in for a walloping if in a few weeks down the line you go off it.

In that sort of an instance, if it were me, I would say best buy it from there.

Salespeople aren't silly, if they know it's an absurd price, they aren't going to match it. And quite frankly, in that situation, I would consider you to be an "insulting idiot".

 

[CnoEvil]

And Cno, feel free to post bank account number and sort code etc. I'll see how much cash is left after the weekend ......

Just put the thrupence ha'penny in an envelope and address it to CnoEvil Esq., N.Ireland.

 

[BenLaw]

some will say AVI sounds better for 1/10th of the price :clap:

Some will. Ask them if they've ABXed them.

You think they'll sound the same?

I have no idea.

I think you have some idea.

Actually, I think you're right - I suspect they would sound different. I don't know which I would prefer as I've only heard one.

Exactly. I'm sure everyone would expect them to sound distinctly different. And as you know ABX is nothing to do with preferences, just whether one can tell the difference. So no need to ABX AVI and blades. Just trying to avoid perpetuating confusion over the nature / purpose of ABX.

 

[Anonymous]

You miss the point. Do you think Brad Pitt asks for discounts on a Rolls Royce? Snob market, mate.

Probably the tightest people I know are the ones with shed loads of money...and thats why

Ask for discount and salesmen are there to be abused and insulted

If they didn't want to be they should have paid more attention at school

Looking at the level of your gear, you're the one that should have paid more attention at school. Working in sales is one of the best jobs one could have.

Really can you quantitfy that please because I thought I got value for money (you don't know what I paid) all sorts of people influence what we buy aka Richard Branson, he is quoted as saying "ipsum sine timore consector" which loosely translated from the latin means "Screw it, lets do it!", or could it mean "Screw You!!"

 

[John Duncan]

some will say AVI sounds better for 1/10th of the price :clap:

Some will. Ask them if they've ABXed them.

You think they'll sound the same?

I have no idea.

I think you have some idea.

Actually, I think you're right - I suspect they would sound different. I don't know which I would prefer as I've only heard one.

Exactly. I'm sure everyone would expect them to sound distinctly different. And as you know ABX is nothing to do with preferences, just whether one can tell the difference. So no need to ABX AVI and blades. Just trying to avoid perpetuating confusion over the nature / purpose of ABX.

Why would one expect them to sound distinctly different? Presumably they both purport to represent more or less state of the art (and therefore should sound quite similar), it's just that one claims to do so more cheaply?

 

[the record spot]

Good luck with the dem, but might you be in a position to try some other models too? Zingali speakers are apparently stunning, both in audio and finish terms and in youyr price bracket. Limited dealers however, but a couple are around the country.

McIntosh would also be on my shortlist for amps and CD players. Likewise Audio Research. Perreaux amps too.

 

[BenLaw]

some will say AVI sounds better for 1/10th of the price :clap:

Some will. Ask them if they've ABXed them.

You think they'll sound the same?

I have no idea.

I think you have some idea.

Actually, I think you're right - I suspect they would sound different. I don't know which I would prefer as I've only heard one.

Exactly. I'm sure everyone would expect them to sound distinctly different. And as you know ABX is nothing to do with preferences, just whether one can tell the difference. So no need to ABX AVI and blades. Just trying to avoid perpetuating confusion over the nature / purpose of ABX.

Why would one expect them to sound distinctly different? Presumably they both purport to represent more or less state of the art (and therefore should sound quite similar), it's just that one claims to do so more cheaply?

Not sure what point you're trying to make asking questions you know the answer to but let's keep it short by saying driver size and number and cabinet size.

 

[matthewpiano]

You miss the point. Do you think Brad Pitt asks for discounts on a Rolls Royce? Snob market, mate.

Probably the tightest people I know are the ones with shed loads of money...and thats why

Ask for discount and salesmen are there to be abused and insulted

If they didn't want to be they should have paid more attention at school

Looking at the level of your gear, you're the one that should have paid more attention at school. Working in sales is one of the best jobs one could have.

Really can you quantitfy that please because I thought I got value for money (you don't know what I paid) all sorts of people influence what we buy aka Richard Branson, he is quoted as saying "ipsum sine timore consector" which loosely translated from the latin means "Screw it, lets do it!", or could it mean "Screw You!!"

Looks like a good system to me.

 

[Anonymous]

You miss the point. Do you think Brad Pitt asks for discounts on a Rolls Royce? Snob market, mate.

Probably the tightest people I know are the ones with shed loads of money...and thats why

Ask for discount and salesmen are there to be abused and insulted

If they didn't want to be they should have paid more attention at school

Looking at the level of your gear, you're the one that should have paid more attention at school. Working in sales is one of the best jobs one could have.

Really can you quantitfy that please because I thought I got value for money (you don't know what I paid) all sorts of people influence what we buy aka Richard Branson, he is quoted as saying "ipsum sine timore consector" which loosely translated from the latin means "Screw it, lets do it!", or could it mean "Screw You!!"

So come on quantify it you sanctimonious C U N T

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[the record spot]

Pathetic. Take it somewhere else.

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[Anonymous]

Pathetic. Take it somewhere else.

Why? Why the f u c k should I go on tell me

I'm in Coventry go on tell me where to meet and I will why should I take s h it like that really

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[BenLaw]

Reported. Hopefully banned.

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[Anonymous]

Reported. Hopefully banned.

To be honest I hope so because this is such a w a n k forum full of bigotts it's unbelievable

so f u c k you alll

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[the record spot]

Reported. Hopefully banned.

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[BenLaw]

It's clear who the offensive bigot is. Reported again.

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[the record spot]

Pathetic. Take it somewhere else.

Why? Why should I go on tell me

I'm in Coventry go on tell me where to meet and I will why should I take it...

Your first post on this thread was boneheaded enough; you're just showing your ignorance and deserve the reaction that you got from the guys who work in sales here after your cheap shot.

By the same token, clearly, why should they take it from you?

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