There's coverage of our deliberations on a range of receivers in our forthcoming Awards issue....
I recently purchased the Sony STRDA 2400ES but as I haven't finished decorating the room yet its still in the box.
The nice folks at Richer Sounds are happy to exchange it if I wish. Would it be a good idea to pay the extra £100 or so and upgrade to the Yamaha RX-V1065?
Clare if you think its treading into "Awards" territory then I understand if you can't answer.
Thanks
The nice folks at Richer Sounds are happy to exchange it if I wish. Would it be a good idea to pay the extra £100 or so and upgrade to the Yamaha RX-V1065?
Clare if you think its treading into "Awards" territory then I understand if you can't answer.
Thanks
Well our recent Group Test put the Denon AVR-1910 above the (still excellent) Sony '2400ES, and the Yamaha '1065/Denon AVR-2310 are a class up from that, so it's definitely worth considering. Though it depends on the rest of your system, obviously....
The new amp will be paired with a yet unpurchased TV and Blue Ray Player.
I'll probably keep the Bose acoustimass speaker system
I'll probably keep the Bose acoustimass speaker system
roger06
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Clare Newsome:Well our recent Group Test put the Denon AVR-1910 above the (still excellent) Sony '2400ES, and the Yamaha '1065/Denon AVR-2310 are a class up from that, so it's definitely worth considering. Though it depends on the rest of your system, obviously....
Hi Clare
Then perhaps you could advise me. My two (presumably) dud Sony STR 2400s are on their way back to Amazon. The good news is I've been selling stuff like crazy on eB@y to fund it and sales have gone well so I may well have a bit more to spend.
What would you advise to go with my system ? (outlined in sig)
Thanks!
Hi Clare
Then perhaps you could advise me. My two (presumably) dud Sony STR 2400s are on their way back to Amazon. The good news is I've been selling stuff like crazy on eB@y to fund it and sales have gone well so I may well have a bit more to spend.
What would you advise to go with my system ? (outlined in sig)
Thanks!
After all your centre-speaker trials and tribulations, i'd strongly advise you go along to your local specialist dealer and do some auditioning (preferably taking your speakers with you). It'd give you a great idea of the extra performance (or not) each step up gives you.
roger06
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You just have to go to your specialist dealer once. Atleast that'll ensure peace of mind....& you won't find yourself in the situation you're in right now (which has certainly taken more than an hour of your time).
Well actually, the review only mentions one area where the Yamaha might perhaps out perform the Denon, (given the definition of "arguably") and one area where the Denon definetly out performs the Yamaha, (albeit marginally)
Also "there is nothing of note" against the Denon whereas there is a negative comment against the Yamaha.
Thus, if the reviews are taken at face value the Denon is the superior product, (albeit marginally).
But then, it seems to be down to a coin toss. I wonder if What-Hi-Fi would be brave enough to give a joint award, (assuming of course that there isn't a contender out there that betters them both).
Also "there is nothing of note" against the Denon whereas there is a negative comment against the Yamaha.
Thus, if the reviews are taken at face value the Denon is the superior product, (albeit marginally).
But then, it seems to be down to a coin toss. I wonder if What-Hi-Fi would be brave enough to give a joint award, (assuming of course that there isn't a contender out there that betters them both).
roger06
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bigboss:You just have to go to your specialist dealer once. Atleast that'll ensure peace of mind....& you won't find yourself in the situation you're in right now (which has certainly taken more than an hour of your time).
That, is a very good point!
That, is a very good point!
Re: Hehe,image the Marantz 6004 as the winner!!!!!!
Oh, without (arguably) a shadow of doubt.
The Denon will get demoted to 4 stars and the Yamaha, after having been re-designated as a £500 receiver, will get product of the year.
Having now been demoted to 3 stars and having at last been recognised as ripping the UK public off, (compared to what as charged in the US), Pioneer will concentrate future efforts on in car audio before withdrawing from the UK market altogether.
Oh, without (arguably) a shadow of doubt.
The Denon will get demoted to 4 stars and the Yamaha, after having been re-designated as a £500 receiver, will get product of the year.
Having now been demoted to 3 stars and having at last been recognised as ripping the UK public off, (compared to what as charged in the US), Pioneer will concentrate future efforts on in car audio before withdrawing from the UK market altogether.
Would the Yamaha be a better choice than the Denon 1910 to marry up to my Kef 3005SE, and replace my Onkyo 606. I also read somewhere that the Yamaha has a problem with skyHD, assigning the optical to the HDMI..?
I'm considering either the Yamaha, Denon 1910 or the Pioneer 919 as they are all around the same price.
Would any of these be a huge improvement on the Onkyo?
I'm considering either the Yamaha, Denon 1910 or the Pioneer 919 as they are all around the same price.
Would any of these be a huge improvement on the Onkyo?
Claire,
Thanks for the review even though I had already taken the blind leap to buy before the reviews were out. Last time I said I was struggling with upgragding the software, but that has been sorted out now. BUT AM STILL NOT HAPPY.
1. How high does one turn up the volume to appreciate music from sky. I find myself pushing up to -20. am using optical cable from sky box to receiver
2. The same for Blu ray disc was watching MATRIX RELOADED, to get an appreciation I had to turn the volume to around -24
3. I was listening to cd played thru PS3 and was listening to Seals Kiss From A Rose, and I had to turn the music to as high as -30.
I am of the opinion that the volume settings am going at are too high but still I have to do that to get that satisfaction out of the system.
what volumes were you comfortable with in the test? Am not find the loudness to satisfy for a FIVE STAR product that it is.
Acoustic Energy Aegis Neo 5.1 Speaker System is what am using and I know they are carrying only 4 stars now and I may be wrong to say that the 4 stars were at the 1000 quid price range and looking that they can now be found under 600 pounds they become a very interesting purchase.
What am I getting wrong? My room is reasonably size about 7metres by 4 metres and I would thank a combination like this would not struggle to fill up the room.
Someone help me out there!
two4one
Thanks for the review even though I had already taken the blind leap to buy before the reviews were out. Last time I said I was struggling with upgragding the software, but that has been sorted out now. BUT AM STILL NOT HAPPY.
1. How high does one turn up the volume to appreciate music from sky. I find myself pushing up to -20. am using optical cable from sky box to receiver
2. The same for Blu ray disc was watching MATRIX RELOADED, to get an appreciation I had to turn the volume to around -24
3. I was listening to cd played thru PS3 and was listening to Seals Kiss From A Rose, and I had to turn the music to as high as -30.
I am of the opinion that the volume settings am going at are too high but still I have to do that to get that satisfaction out of the system.
what volumes were you comfortable with in the test? Am not find the loudness to satisfy for a FIVE STAR product that it is.
Acoustic Energy Aegis Neo 5.1 Speaker System is what am using and I know they are carrying only 4 stars now and I may be wrong to say that the 4 stars were at the 1000 quid price range and looking that they can now be found under 600 pounds they become a very interesting purchase.
What am I getting wrong? My room is reasonably size about 7metres by 4 metres and I would thank a combination like this would not struggle to fill up the room.
Someone help me out there!
two4one
Hi two4one. Different sources have different levels of output, so it's undestandable that you have to change the volume depending on the source. Not all discs or TV programmes are necessarily recorded at the same level, which again might result in listening at different volumes. I wouldn't get too concerned about the numbers on the front of your amp. If it sounds loud enough when you've altered the volume, then surely everything's fine?
Hi Andy,
Well what concerns me is that for a product of this quality and price I should not have to go above half on the volume to enjoy everyday listening. I helped my brother inlaw to chose an all in one dvd hometheatre, LG 905 if I remember and I thnk I did not have to push the volume that high to appreciate and enjoy the sound. Unless am missing something here or unless its my speakers not being matched to the receiver.
Like I asked I would be really interested to know the volumes that were being used in the review testing and as well to know what speakers it was paired with. I know I will have to buy a separate cd and player to enjoy my music. At the moment is just trying and trying to see wahats best for the receiver and the speakers I got.
two4one
Well what concerns me is that for a product of this quality and price I should not have to go above half on the volume to enjoy everyday listening. I helped my brother inlaw to chose an all in one dvd hometheatre, LG 905 if I remember and I thnk I did not have to push the volume that high to appreciate and enjoy the sound. Unless am missing something here or unless its my speakers not being matched to the receiver.
Like I asked I would be really interested to know the volumes that were being used in the review testing and as well to know what speakers it was paired with. I know I will have to buy a separate cd and player to enjoy my music. At the moment is just trying and trying to see wahats best for the receiver and the speakers I got.
two4one
Hi,
I have the Teufel Motiv 3 speaker system (http://www.teufel.eu/Homecinema/Motiv-3.cfm), which I was fortunate enough to win in a competition. I have bought an Onkyo TX-SR607 which Teufel recommended for these speakers, but as the Yamaha is so competitively priced now I'm tempted to return the unopened Onkyo and buy the Yamaha. Should I stick with the manufacturer's recommendation or go with the Yamaha? Any ideas?
Also, could you please advise me if this Yamaha RX-V1065 is suitable to power the Teufel speakers which are rated at 4 Ohm? The Yamaha manual says there's an option to run the front speaker terminals at 4 Ohm if required, but it does not mention anything about the other channels being 4 Ohm compatible?
The Yamaha RX-V1065 is on the recommended hardware list on Teufel's website so I think it will be ok but I just want to make sure: http://www.teufel.eu/support/hardware/avreceiver/
Thanks in advance,
Gareth.
I have the Teufel Motiv 3 speaker system (http://www.teufel.eu/Homecinema/Motiv-3.cfm), which I was fortunate enough to win in a competition. I have bought an Onkyo TX-SR607 which Teufel recommended for these speakers, but as the Yamaha is so competitively priced now I'm tempted to return the unopened Onkyo and buy the Yamaha. Should I stick with the manufacturer's recommendation or go with the Yamaha? Any ideas?
Also, could you please advise me if this Yamaha RX-V1065 is suitable to power the Teufel speakers which are rated at 4 Ohm? The Yamaha manual says there's an option to run the front speaker terminals at 4 Ohm if required, but it does not mention anything about the other channels being 4 Ohm compatible?
The Yamaha RX-V1065 is on the recommended hardware list on Teufel's website so I think it will be ok but I just want to make sure: http://www.teufel.eu/support/hardware/avreceiver/
Thanks in advance,
Gareth.
Thanks Andrew,
Sorry, I'm new to all this so maybe I'm asking too many questions, but the Yamaha manual (http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/av/english/re/RX-V1065_om_U.pdf) says that if you are using 4 ohm speakers for the front 2 channels (L&R) then select the '6 Ohm min' setting, although it doesn't mention about the other channels? Does this matter? I presume not, but just making sure!
Also, would you say the Yamaha is a better match for my Teufel Motiv 3 speakers than the Onkyo 607?
Thanks again, I really appreciate your advice.
Sorry, I'm new to all this so maybe I'm asking too many questions, but the Yamaha manual (http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/av/english/re/RX-V1065_om_U.pdf) says that if you are using 4 ohm speakers for the front 2 channels (L&R) then select the '6 Ohm min' setting, although it doesn't mention about the other channels? Does this matter? I presume not, but just making sure!
Also, would you say the Yamaha is a better match for my Teufel Motiv 3 speakers than the Onkyo 607?
Thanks again, I really appreciate your advice.
I just found this on the Yamaha FAQ webpage:
Can I use low impedance speakers with my Yamaha amp?
Yes, many Yamaha AV receivers are stable down to 4 ohms. We recommend that you use only speakers with a minimum of 4 ohms. Also, please make sure that the impedance selector switch is set to the correct position as recommended by the owner's manual.
I'd still like to know 1) what that setting is and 2) if it's the '6OhmMin' setting for the front 2 L&R channels, what about the other channels?
Can I use low impedance speakers with my Yamaha amp?
Yes, many Yamaha AV receivers are stable down to 4 ohms. We recommend that you use only speakers with a minimum of 4 ohms. Also, please make sure that the impedance selector switch is set to the correct position as recommended by the owner's manual.
I'd still like to know 1) what that setting is and 2) if it's the '6OhmMin' setting for the front 2 L&R channels, what about the other channels?
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