Yamaha RX-V1065 or Denon AVR-2310

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Both have received good reviews but which one would you go for?

 

[Clare Newsome]

You'll find out our verdict in next week's Awards issue (even sooner if you join us at the Manchester Show/subscribe to the mag and get your copy at the weekend)...but as mentioned elsewhere, it wasn't a unanimous verdict; these are definitely two to audition if you're looking at this price/class level.

 

[Frank Harvey]

Personally speaking, the Yamaha. With 2 channel systems, you'll find some are all about figures and being perfect, others are about the music. To me, and a few others here, the Yamaha is the latter.

Only a personal audition will tell you which one is right for you.

 

[Anonymous]

Is there any chance to read the verdict on line somewhere?

 

[Clare Newsome]

There will be when our dedicated Awards microsite is updated to reveal the 2009 winners next week

 

[MUSICRAFT]

stokes2608:Both have received good reviews but which one would you go for?

Hi stokes2608

I would have Yamaha's RX-V1065.

Thanks

Rick @ Musicraft

 

[Clare Newsome]

That's two dealers for Yamaha - guess we know who's more generous on margins

(Just kidding...)

 

[Anonymous]

I went for the Denon, has a more rounded sound to my ears...

 

[ear]

I share the same opinion.

 

[Jonnyhifi]

Having auditioned and been all set to go for the Denon plus B&W 685 Theatre package ( very impressive) , the appearance of the on-line Yamaha review and the massive price difference has chucked the balls in the air yet again.

I'm now thinking that the Yamaha + pricier Monitor Audio RX series (probably RX2 for fronts, which I haven't been able to audition yet) may be a better option, on the basis that the rate of speaker technology advancement and model replacement seems much slower - so I could keep the higher quality RXs for many years and take advanatge of the rapid changes to amp tech through upgrades in that area. All subject to hearing the Yam and RXs in action of course. Maybe Manchester can oblige.

Any views on this approach?

As an aside, any thoughts on pairing the Denon with the RXs?

 

[MUSICRAFT]

Jonnyhifi:

Having auditioned and been all set to go for the Denon plus B&W 685 Theatre package ( very impressive) , the appearance of the on-line Yamaha review and the massive price difference has chucked the balls in the air yet again.

I'm now thinking that the Yamaha + pricier Monitor Audio RX series (probably RX2 for fronts, which I haven't been able to audition yet) may be a better option, on the basis that the rate of speaker technology advancement and model replacement seems much slower - so I could keep the higher quality RXs for many years and take advanatge of the rapid changes to amp tech through upgrades in that area. All subject to hearing the Yam and RXs in action of course. Maybe Manchester can oblige.

Any views on this approach?

As an aside, any thoughts on pairing the Denon with the RXs?

HI Jonnyhifi

Yamaha AV amps + Monitor Audio speakers = great combination (time after time)

I have tried the 2310 with the Silver RX's and i thought it sounded a little hard.

Btw, unless i have missed something who is Manchester?

Thanks

Rick @ Musicraft

 

[Anonymous]

MUSICRAFT: Yamaha AV amps + Monitor Audio speakers = great combination (time after time)

Rick @ Musicraft

Agreed. I wonder why Monitor Audio are teaming up with Onkyo to do the demos at Manchester?

http://www.monitoraudio.co.uk/news/sound-and-vision-manchester-show

 

[Pistol Pete1]

MUSICRAFT:Jonnyhifi:

Having auditioned and been all set to go for the Denon plus B&W 685 Theatre package ( very impressive) , the appearance of the on-line Yamaha review and the massive price difference has chucked the balls in the air yet again.

I'm now thinking that the Yamaha + pricier Monitor Audio RX series (probably RX2 for fronts, which I haven't been able to audition yet) may be a better option, on the basis that the rate of speaker technology advancement and model replacement seems much slower - so I could keep the higher quality RXs for many years and take advanatge of the rapid changes to amp tech through upgrades in that area. All subject to hearing the Yam and RXs in action of course. Maybe Manchester can oblige.

Any views on this approach?

As an aside, any thoughts on pairing the Denon with the RXs?

HI Jonnyhifi

Yamaha AV amps + Monitor Audio speakers = great combination (time after time)

I have tried the 2310 with the Silver RX's and i thought it sounded a little hard.

Btw, unless i have missed something who is Manchester?

Thanks

Rick @ Musicraft

I think you have missed a lot, Rick!!!

AV and HIFI show at Manchester this weekend!!!!!!

 

[MUSICRAFT]

Pistol Pete1:MUSICRAFT:Jonnyhifi:

Having auditioned and been all set to go for the Denon plus B&W 685 Theatre package ( very impressive) , the appearance of the on-line Yamaha review and the massive price difference has chucked the balls in the air yet again.

I'm now thinking that the Yamaha + pricier Monitor Audio RX series (probably RX2 for fronts, which I haven't been able to audition yet) may be a better option, on the basis that the rate of speaker technology advancement and model replacement seems much slower - so I could keep the higher quality RXs for many years and take advanatge of the rapid changes to amp tech through upgrades in that area. All subject to hearing the Yam and RXs in action of course. Maybe Manchester can oblige.

Any views on this approach?

As an aside, any thoughts on pairing the Denon with the RXs?

HI Jonnyhifi

Yamaha AV amps + Monitor Audio speakers = great combination (time after time)

I have tried the 2310 with the Silver RX's and i thought it sounded a little hard.

Btw, unless i have missed something who is Manchester?

Thanks

Rick @ Musicraft

I think you have missed a lot, Rick!!!

AV and HIFI show at Manchester this weekend!!!!!!

Hi PP11

Thanks for clarifying it for me.

I would not know as i don't do shows anymore.

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

 

[Frank Harvey]

passingbat:Agreed. I wonder why Monitor Audio are teaming up with Onkyo to do the demos at Manchester? Maybe because the newer RX is much smoother than the old RS's, they need quite lively ampification to pep them up a bit to sound a little more immediately impressive. At a show, your product has to impress from the off, otherwise people will just walk straight back out of the room. Although, many manufacturers seem to manage that with their choice of music

 

[Anonymous]

FrankHarveyHiFi:passingbat:Agreed. I wonder why Monitor Audio are teaming up with Onkyo to do the demos at Manchester? Maybe because the newer RX is much smoother than the old RS's, they need quite lively ampification to pep them up a bit to sound a little more immediately impressive.

Do you have personal preference to go with the RX6's David?

 

[Frank Harvey]

I think everyone knows my personal preference is for the Yamaha

Even if they did sound more lively on the Denon or Onkyo, I still prefer the Yamaha's processing, so it would be the Yamaha. Personally, I'd be looking at the RXV2065, or the RXV3900 for the RX series, but seeing as they're so close in price at the moment, I'd go with the 3900.

 

[ear]

ok..procesing...many features...but how many do you use...? you will always prefer one...so...in the end...you'll always choose the more lively one...so...if others make speakers sound more lively....then....

 

[Frank Harvey]

Processing will depend on the user - I tend to use 'standard' or 'adventure' settings for movies, and find some music DSP settings can liven up a dull live CD. Features tend to be roughly on par at any given price point. Another area Yamaha was ahead on was their front effect speakers, which they've been doing for over 10 years - now creeping onto Denon and Onkyo as ProLogicIIz. Still works a little differently though, and has given birth to 3D DSP on the Yamahas.

 

[Jonnyhifi]

FrankHarveyHiFi:

Personally, I'd be looking at the RXV2065, or the RXV3900 for the RX series, but seeing as they're so close in price at the moment, I'd go with the 3900.

I'm still thinking that with limited funds I should invest in the RX series if I like it on audition and go for the 1065 (at half the cost of the 2065 and 3900), leaving upgrade options as the processing tech seems to quickly filter down to newer cheaper models . Also leaves potential for a £500 ish or dedicated stereo amp in the near future. What do you reckon David and/ or Rick?

 

[Clare Newsome]

I'd wait until you read our full review of the Silver RX package in next week's Awards issue (with subscribers from tomorrow; on sale at Manchester Show over the weekend), and the suggested partners we've trialled it with

Dealers can only recommend the products they stock...

 

[Anonymous]

Clare Newsome:IDealers can only recommend the products they stock...

Given that Frank Harvey stock all the brands most people are going to be buying, admited that it's a personal choice and (somewhere on these forums) said Yamaha aren't the ones to sell if you're looking for high profit margins. they're probably not a bad source of advise

 

[Jonnyhifi]

Thank you Clare, makes perfect sense. I hope to get to the show and will pick up the mag/ try the RXs there.

Just keen not miss out on low prices and good availbality as I remember last year (been looking at upgrades for some time!) that the Yamaha AX 863SE was very scace after last year's Awards.

 

[Clare Newsome]

passingbat:
[ they're probably not a bad source of advice

Indeed they are not. But there are other options - and, as you point out, personal preference is king!

 

[Anonymous]

i don't get it, howcome everyone here is disregarding the
Pioneer VSX-1019AH-K

when cnet gave it a rave review and put it on top of the denon 1910...

i wonder if that will be included in the awards issue because the pioneer isn't covered online at all...