Which Van Damme cable is more flexible?

[chebby]

Which 2x4mm Van Damme is the more flexible cable? Blue Series or UP-LC-OFC?

Hopefully someone here has tried both.

Thanks.

 

[Q5]

Which 2x4mm Van Damme is the more flexible cable? Blue Series or UP-LC-OFC?

Hopefully someone here has tried both.

Thanks.

In my experience - UP-LC-OFC

 

[chebby]

Which 2x4mm Van Damme is the more flexible cable? Blue Series or UP-LC-OFC?

Hopefully someone here has tried both.

Thanks.

In my experience - UP-LC-OFC

Thanks. Well there wasn't much in it as far as cost or looks (and 2x4mm2 of pure copper is 2x4mm2 of pure copper however it's 'arranged'.

I have just ordered a 2 metre and a 2.5 metre run of the 2x4mm2 UP-LC-OFC 'Hi-fi' loudspeaker cable terminated with soldered banana plugs on all ends.

 

[Blackdawn]

Which 2x4mm Van Damme is the more flexible cable? Blue Series or UP-LC-OFC?

Hopefully someone here has tried both.

Thanks.

Yeah, I have both types (6mm) - both sound good. UPLC OFC fairly flexible although nothing like the Chord Rumour I had, which was much more flexible.

 

[DIB]

Which 2x4mm Van Damme is the more flexible cable? Blue Series or UP-LC-OFC?

Hopefully someone here has tried both.

Thanks.

In my experience - UP-LC-OFC

Thanks. Well there wasn't much in it as far as cost or looks (and 2x4mm2 of pure copper is 2x4mm2 of pure copper however it's 'arranged'.

I have just ordered a 2 metre and a 2.5 metre run of the 2x4mm2 UP-LC-OFC 'Hi-fi' loudspeaker cable terminated with soldered banana plugs on all ends.

I ordered a slightly shorter pair of exactly the same cable, with soldered banana plugs, a few weeks ago from A1.

I ordered them about 2.00pm on a Friday afternoon and they arrived the following morning. Can't ask for better than that really.

They are pretty flexible too.

.

 

[drummerman]

Silicon sleeving is usually very flexible and relatively heat proof.

Not that this probably much concerns you but I did find out first hand after once burning clumsily through the (inflexible) pvc cabling of my Antex solder iron.

In your case, of the two VanDamned cables, I would have thought the round one is overall sligthly more inflexible but will twist in every direction whereas the parallel spaced on is more flexible in two directions but not the others.

My Naca is an absolute bxxxxx and my favorite affordable cable, VdH's CS122 Hybrid, whilst better, is still not exactly a contortionist.

Some of QED's cable use a super hard sleeve which probably could be used as a weapon.

 

[chebby]

Cables arrived this morning. Now fitted. Old cables dusted and bagged.

System got bass! Lots more bass. Nice bass too. No variables were hurt during this change. Volume exactly where I left it on both amp and AirPlay.

Conclusion number one ... Old cables must have been choking bass. (Skinny and very rigid old, white, QED cables marked "Balanced Design Concept Speaker Cable" which makes them QED Performance Original AFAIK.)

Conclusion number two ... I am probably listening for differences at some level even though - on another level - I didn't expect any. (I just wanted shorter, more flexible and nicer looking cables with a decent gauge of pure copper terminated with soldered plugs all round for about £50.)

They are pretty

 

[drummerman]

Great you're 'appy.

Perhaps not proof positive but another notch for those who enjoy (or otherwise) that cables can make small but noticeable differences.

Now onto mains cables ...

Did I ever mention those sexy AudioFriendly mains cables ... ?

 

[drummerman]

Doubt it but even if you do just hear what you want to hear the new cable does its job ... .

That AudioFriendly power cable would look lovely dangling out the back of your Quad.

Even if you only see it when dusting.

 

[Jota180]

You might have been hearing what you expected to hear with "old, rigid cables" too which ended up with an unneccessary expenditure!

 

[chebby]

Perhaps not proof positive but another notch for those who enjoy (or otherwise) that cables can make small but noticeable differences.

Not necessarily. I might just be hearing what I want to hear. I'll never know unless I DBT it and that's not going to happen for lots of (mainly practical) reasons.

The track "A Beautiful Space" ripped from the Ballistic Brother's 'London Hooligan Soul' CD is sounding amazing and it's hard to think I am imagining this.

 

[ID.]

I often hear slight, but noticeable, differences between cables. Even between a couple of digital cables.

Might there have been anything else with the old cables that could have hampered performance (corrosion, the wrong colour...)?

Glad to hear (read) that the size is right and you are enjoying your system even more.

 

[drummerman]

Where my experience slightly differs (on very short runs of around 3m each) is that some thin cables lack treble rather than bass.

 

[chebby]

You might have been hearing what you expected to hear with "old, rigid cables" too which ended up with an unneccessary expenditure!

Not completely unnecessary. I was tired of the QED's reluctance to go around corners (and stay there) and they were too long. It turned out they were 3 metres each run and I now have 2 metre and 2.5 metre runs which are perfect, leaving no excess and staying exactly where they are put rather than trying to whip me in the face (like the QEDs did this morning when attempting to coil them in a bag!)

 

[Jota180]

You might have been hearing what you expected to hear with "old, rigid cables" too which ended up with an unneccessary expenditure!

Not completely unnecessary. I was tired of the QED's reluctance to go around corners (and stay there) and they were too long. It turned out they were 3 metres each run and I now have 2 metre and 2.5 metre runs which are perfect, leaving no excess and staying exactly where they are put rather than trying to whip me in the face (like the QEDs did this morning when attempting to coil them in a bag!)

Ah the joys of wrestling with cabling that appears to have a mind of it's own. The man (or woman) who invents a system to reliably get electricity from the wall to the equipment without the need for kettle power cables gets my vote as emperor of the universe. I must have 20 of these in my living room alone.

 

[chebby]

Now onto mains cables ...

Did I ever mention those sexy AudioFriendly mains cables ... ?

I do need a shorter mains cable (a couple of them actually) which is why i'll be ordering these in 1m lengths to replace the 1.5m and 2m ones I have now ...

BS1363A approved and tested. (Couldn't find reference to BS1363/BS1363A in the description of those AudioFriendly leads.)

Should come to a bit less than a tenner in total.

 

[chebby]

Yeah this bass thing is real.

In fact the whole sound is louder. I just got back in and stuck on some music and almost jumped because it was so much louder in comparison to normal. I've had to take it down a couple of 'notches' on the amp and a bit on the AirPlay with the same music I was listening to yesterday. Even iPlayer Radio was a bit too 'fullsome' for this time of day. (An episode of 'Giles Wemmbley Hogg Goes Off'.)

So what's going on? Has that 16mm2 (combined cross sectional area of copper conductors) opened up the floodgates or what? Could my old QEDs have just been plain 'sh#gged out' by now?

It's all good though. The tom toms and double bass in 'Mo' Horizons' 'Flyin Away' are sounding totally groovy and i've honestly never noticed the bass line separately in this before. It's time to break out 'Count Basie and the Kansas City 7' for some real jazz bass. (An old 'reference' album.)

 

[Q5]

Glad your enjoying it Chebby, I have always liked this cable been using it for the last 4 years.

 

[bigboss]

Yeah this bass thing is real.

In fact the whole sound is louder. I just got back in and stuck on some music and almost jumped because it was so much louder in comparison to normal. I've had to take it down a couple of 'notches' on the amp and a bit on the AirPlay with the same music I was listening to yesterday. Even iPlayer Radio was a bit too 'fullsome' for this time of day. (An episode of 'Giles Wemmbley Hogg Goes Off'.)

So what's going on? Has that 16mm2 (combined cross sectional area of copper conductors) opened up the floodgates or what? Could my old QEDs have just been plain 'sh#gged out' by now?

It's all good though. The tom toms and double bass in 'Mo' Horizons' 'Flyin Away' are sounding totally groovy and i've honestly never noticed the bass line separately in this before. It's time to break out 'Count Basie and the Kansas City 7' for some real jazz bass. (An old 'reference' album.) 

I remembered idc used to talk about a "sweet spot" in cables which are different in one another. Once you match the "loudness" it should sound the same as your previous cable, if idc is right.

 

[chebby]

Glad your enjoying it Chebby, I have always liked this cable been using it for the last 4 years.

It's definitely going to be my standard recommendation from now on. (Although I am now wondering what the UP-LC-OFC Hi-fi 2 x 6mm will be like ...)

 

[plastic penguin]

Mmm... now I'm tempted to listen to some TQ Blue or Black. 'Infidelity Hi-Fi' asked whether I fancied a home dem over two years ago. Of course I sniggered at the prospect.

Proves there is musical life after cables. (Never thought I'd say that).

 

[chebby]

Mmm... now I'm tempted to listen to some TQ Blue or Black. 'Infidelity Hi-Fi' asked whether I fancied a home dem over two years ago. Of course I sniggered at the prospect.

Too rich for me.

 

[plastic penguin]

Mmm... now I'm tempted to listen to some TQ Blue or Black. 'Infidelity Hi-Fi' asked whether I fancied a home dem over two years ago. Of course I sniggered at the prospect.

Too rich for me.

And me.

But would be an interesting exercise given I've never been blown away by cables.

 

[Andrewjvt]

Glad your enjoying it Chebby, I have always liked this cable been using it for the last 4 years.

It's definitely going to be my standard recommendation from now on. (Although I am now wondering what the UP-LC-OFC Hi-fi 2 x 6mm will be like ...)

When i changed from thin qed cheap cables to 6mm ofc 500 strand the bass jumped out at me in comparision and i was not expecting it or wanting it.

 

[drummerman]

Now onto mains cables ...

Did I ever mention those sexy AudioFriendly mains cables ... ?

I do need a shorter mains cable (a couple of them actually) which is why i'll be ordering these in 1m lengths to replace the 1.5m and 2m ones I have now ...

BS1363A approved and tested. (Couldn't find reference to BS1363/BS1363A in the description of those AudioFriendly leads.)

Should come to a bit less than a tenner in total.

Oh no ... :-(