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Jasonovich

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Perhaps when posting in forums, if you don't like the way others react to your views on cables, or anything else, just keep quiet about them...

Otherwise, be prepared to take the rough with the smooth.
I've always been open minded about these cable experiments.
Science isn't something that's etched in stone. Short comings is always down to process and methodology.
Findings today where they tell you there's no definitive proof that cables sound better or different. May hold true until it is scientifically disproven, that is why, I value my ears, more than the pretty curves on the VDU.
Why do we assume there's a direct correlation with measurements on a graph and sound quality?

Why is the air much sweeter in the valleys than the air in Sheffield?
My little machine tells me the constitution of the elements that produce the oxygen is exactly the same, so it's all in my head.
It's scientific fascism!
Due to advancements in technology, scientific doctrines are always open to challenge and can subsequently proven to be falsehood.
Here's a link to cable tests that have a very different outcome. Worth a read.
Will it change your view on the sonic merits of different cables.
I think not but always good to have an open mind.

 

Gray

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Why do we assume there's a direct correlation with measurements on a graph and sound quality?
We're not wrong to assume that Jason.
Because anything that can actually be heard, can be measured.

What about stereo image? you might ask.
That's something constructed in the brain of the listener.
It is - based on miniscule time differences between the speakers - differences that can be measured.
 

Jasonovich

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We're not wrong to assume that Jason.
Because anything that can actually be heard, can be measured.

What about stereo image? you might ask.
That's something constructed in the brain of the listener.
It is - based on miniscule time differences between the speakers - differences that can be measured.
Fair enough Gray, it's Christmas 😅🎄 🎄 🎁
Have a great festive season celebration and may the new year ahead is a special one for you and yours.
Merry Christmas everybody 👍
 

Revolutions

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Perhaps you were looking at the most expensive XLR cables. Ewa cables are much cheaper than Tellerium and equally as good . View attachment 8112View attachment 8112
I’m probably not the intended audience, so shouldn’t have replied to your original post.

I paid £45 for a pair of Mogami XLRs, and even then I’m fairly sure I could have spent half as much and achieved the same sound in my system. I remember from my studio days that you can avoid degradation with pretty basic cabling if the signal is properly balanced.
 

podknocker

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I've always been open minded about these cable experiments.
Science isn't something that's etched in stone. Short comings is always down to process and methodology.
Findings today where they tell you there's no definitive proof that cables sound better or different. May hold true until it is scientifically disproven, that is why, I value my ears, more than the pretty curves on the VDU.
Why do we assume there's a direct correlation with measurements on a graph and sound quality?

Why is the air much sweeter in the valleys than the air in Sheffield?
My little machine tells me the constitution of the elements that produce the oxygen is exactly the same, so it's all in my head.
It's scientific fascism!
Due to advancements in technology, scientific doctrines are always open to challenge and can subsequently proven to be falsehood.
Here's a link to cable tests that have a very different outcome. Worth a read.
Will it change your view on the sonic merits of different cables.
I think not but always good to have an open mind.

You're really missing the point when it comes to science. At the moment, science can't prove claims that many people make about cables sounding different. I can't see the electrical properties of copper and plastic changing any time soon, so my bet is that the laws of physics and how they relate to electronics and cables won't change. At the moment, science doesn't have any evidence or research to support the cable believers. IF you can find any scientifiic research to prove cables can sound different, then this needs to be presented on a forum like this one. Science does find new truths to prove previous truths wrong, but at the moment science says cables can't sound different.. They can have very different measurements, but in tests, will sound the same, unless the reviewer is being sponsored, which does happen. Where is the science to prove, without doubt, that cables sound different? If people insist cables sound different, there must be a physical reason. After all, it's lengths of wire covered in plastic. These aren't alien materials and their qualities can easily be measured. If a different cable sounds different to you, there must be a reason. Saying it sounds better on a forum will always provoke a response you won't like, if you can't, or won't back up your views with real evidence. I have an opem mind, but to science and proof and consensus. Many people say they are open minded, but not to evidence. The post above featuring £620 XLR cables is another example of people believing expensive cables must sound better. They look nice and shine, but they are copper wires with pins on the end and the ends will be soldered on using basic tin I imagine. What part of these cables do people think is improving the sound? They will behave exactly like cables costing a tenth as much. It seems to be an irrational obsession with some people. Cable bling and the idea that because it's very expensive, it's going to perform better. The reason they are expensive is because people are gullible and will pay a fortune for 2m of copper and plastic. If they sell them, they will always charge these prices. The UK mains supply is 230V and 50Hz. If anyone can justify buying this cable, or explain how it will improve the mains supply to your system, I'm open minded to suggestions. My theory, is that someone did a typo and put the decimal point in the wrong place. A £25 item then sold for £250 and then £2500 and then £25000 and these companies are laughing at cable nerds and all the way to the bank. No material or production method could justify these ridiculous prices.

 
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