Whats bright and whats warm?

[admin_exported]

Hey

How do you know what will match with what, surley you have not heard every speaker and amp.

Is there a way of telling from brand to brand?

Like how do I know if my Pioneer amp is warm or bright and what do I match it with ect..

Nice 1

 

[chebby]

Experimentation, demos, reviews, other user's opinions.

All highly unreliable given the galaxy of variables (room sizes, furnishings, partnering equipment, build materials) and the plethora of different preferences/tastes/perceptions that influence other people's opinions of the same kit.

One man's 'incisive and detailed' can be another's 'warm and smooth'.

Unless you get really lucky, or have the world's biggest hifi shop next door (with a generous loan policy and a lot of patience) you are doomed to groping around in the darkness.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

At the end of the day the only true way to know is to listen to your amp with the speaker package.

Pioneer amps are the so called defintion of bright amp, so it is a safe bet that you don't want to partner it with a bright speaker package.

I have heard bright and not bright speaker packages in all most every brand i have heard.

A good way to tell is that if someone is demoing a particular amp and speaker package in a shop then its a safe bet they are a really good match but then only you can say it sounds good to me.

So i don't think there is a way of telling without listening.

 

[Andrew Everard]

gel:Pioneer amps are the so called defintion of bright amp

According to...?

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Andrew Everard:

gel:Pioneer amps are the so called defintion of bright amp

According to...?

Okay i better re-phrase that, pioneer amps have been described in many reviews as sounding bright.

 

[bigboss]

Warm usually refers to an emphasis on mid or lower frequencies, or bass. Bright refers to an emphasis on the high frequencies, or treble.

Generally, the recommendation is to pair bright sounding speakers with warm receivers and vice versa BUT it depends on your listening preferences. If you prefer a warm sound, you may love the combination of warm sounding receivers and warm sounding speakers.

Always audition before you make a purchase.

 

[Anonymous]

See I like treble with detailed bass, so maybe I would like a bright amp like my pioneer with bright speakers.... No?

I find my pioneer with my 9.1 a bit too warm and not much exitement in the high.

So I am buying speakers in the next 2 months and want some tips really.

Like movies, but also listen to the odd cd here and there, and have my selection narrowed to 500 speakers..

RX2 or RX6 Gloss White

B&W 684 OR 684

MS Mezzo 6 or 2's

Or dali Ikon as I already have the centre.

My wife is allowing me to spend 1500.00 of my own money,, LOL as long as she does not hear a word from me about speakers for the next 5 years... I told her..... you mean 5 min?

 

[FunkyMonkey]

Regarding warmth and brightness, I really dislike the way that most people who profess to be hifi hobbyists will assert that a warm sound is preferable. For them maybe, but they dismiss "brightness" as being a symptom of bad hifi engineering.

Absolutely disagree with this. If you like a warm sound, then that's great, but don't pretend that it's more highly fidelitous to the original recording. I would say that a bright revealing sound is far and away more realistic.

You get mroe detail, more insight. From waht I have read, Japanese listeners prefer this. British ears seem to prefer warmth. DOesn't matter really, it's how you want to listen to your music.

Of course, you can have warm AND insightful, but I think warmth is a colouration, and therefore less hifi and more tuning to satisfy a preference. I suppose it's like adding milk and sugar to your chocolate!!!

 

[JoelSim]

A sound which is too bright can tend towards being harsh and therefore grating to listen to for any length of time. I prefer a detailed yet warmer sound, one which envelopes you rather than sings at you.

 

[Anonymous]

JoelSim:A sound which is too bright can tend towards being harsh.

Don,t forget -Warm sound can also tend toward being Dull and laid back, and which will make the sound Less informative in the upper Midrange and Treble....What you might call Bright another man might call it Exiting, and what
another man call Dull another might call it Warm/Full.

Warm or Bright there is no right or wrong as long as it sound good to you!

After all there is no such thing as perfect in the Hifi world.

 

[JoelSim]

marco_1:
JoelSim:A sound which is too bright can tend towards being harsh.

Don,t forget -Warm sound can also tend toward being Dull and laid back, and which will make the sound Less informative in the upper Midrange and Treble....Warm or Bright there is no right or wrong as long as it sound good to you!

After all there is no such thing as perfect in the Hifi world.

Correct.

 

[chebby]

JoelSim:I prefer a detailed yet warmer sound, one which envelopes you rather than sings at you.

Perhaps WHF should award Tog ratings, instead of stars, to the equipment they review.

 

[Anonymous]

See I must not really be that much of a hi-fi nut.

I have a Dali Ikon centre with diamond 9.1, and I cant hear a sound difference.

I tried MS on the front, Q accustics as well and they all sounded ok, so maybe My untrained ears dont care about warm and bright.

When I audition the RX6 ect will ask them to do with a pioneer amp, too bad the RX6 in white are so much more.

Maybe by the time I buy in 2 months, they will come down a bit

 

[Andrew Everard]

canada16:See I must not really be that much of a hi-fi nut.

I have a Dali Ikon centre with diamond 9.1, and I cant hear a sound difference.

I tried MS on the front, Q accustics as well and they all sounded ok, so maybe My untrained ears dont care about warm and bright

Yes, but then the MCACC system in your Pioneer amp, like the automatic calibration in most modern AV amplification, applies equalisation in an effort to make all speakers conform to a theoretical 'ideal' sound. For that reason it will tend to disguise tonal inconsistencies between the speakers in your system, although its real function is to compensate for differences in placement, etc..

And to anticipate the next question, yes, that does mean you could use speakers of different brands on each channel if you really wanted to - and indeed you do have something of a mish-mash of speakers in your current system - but using similarly-voiced speakers all round, or at least across the front three channels, will mean less equalisation will be needed, which can only be a good thing.