What speaker cables ?

[Mickfromdenmark]

Hello everybody here at what hifi forum

i have recently aquired a set of Elac BS 253 which stands on a set of dynaudio 3.

I use the Rotel ra-12 integrated AMP. Currently i am using Van den hul the snowline speaker cables.

I want a more warm and precise cable, so what are your suggestions ? 2x3m lenght, budget 400-500$ and has to able to be bought in Europe online

 

[Captain Duff]

What you are using is fine. Cables cannot actually add anything new to the sound (think about that for a moment please), and only in some specific cases can they take things away (signal degredation etc.). As your cable will not remove anything (particularly over 3 meters) then save your money for something more worthwhile...

 

[Singslinger]

I have had great results with Ringmat speaker cable - very good bass and weight.

Alternatively, something from Chord might work. I have also used Epic Twin with very satisfactory results. Perhaps sharper and more detailed than Ringmat but more expensive.

Good luck!

 

[BronC]

I've tried a few - the ones I would suggest would be Tellurium Q if you could get them - the blue or the black

 

[abacus]

Forget it, speaker cables make NO diffrence to the sound. (As has been proved in every single blind test that has been done, and there has been a lot of them)

Bill

 

[Craig M.]

What you are using is fine. Cables cannot actually add anything new to the sound (think about that for a moment please), and only in some specific cases can they take things away (signal degredation etc.). As your cable will not remove anything (particularly over 3 meters) then save your money for something more worthwhile...

That would be my advice too. If you want to change the sound, change your speakers - after first experimenting with the positioning of your speakers and listening position.

 

[Cypher]

Forget it, speaker cables make NO diffrence to the sound. (As has been proved in every single blind test that has been done, and there has been a lot of them)

Bill

Agree 100%.

 

[PAULCHRISTOPHER]

I think it is wrong to say that speaker cables do not make any difference to the sound. I think it is right to say that there is very little difference between cable or flex which is designated as speaker cable. Otherwise beginners on here might use any old "bell" wire to hook up their speakers which I think would make a difference. I previously used some medium thickness clear Maplin cable with Mordaunt and Short Pearls. I now have a better set up so use 5 meters of Van Dam Blue 2.5 sq mm on each speaker so that I can move them around to find the best sound. It sounds excellent to me with 66 year old ears! They say oxygen free is a prerequisite and obviously the thicker the cable is the lower the resistance but I am not going down the power station route!

 

[PAULCHRISTOPHER]

I think it is wrong to say that speaker cables do not make any difference to the sound. I think it is right to say that there is very little difference between cable or flex which is designated as speaker cable. Otherwise beginners on here might use any old "bell" wire to hook up their speakers which I think would make a difference. I previously used some medium thickness clear Maplin cable with Mordaunt and Short Pearls. I now have a better set up so use 5 meters of Van Dam Blue 2.5 sq mm on each speaker so that I can move them around to find the best sound. It sounds excellent to me with 66 year old ears! They say oxygen free is a prerequisite and obviously the thicker the cable is the lower the resistance but I am not going down the power station route!

 

[PAULCHRISTOPHER]

Sorry my signature has not come through. My system comprises Technics SLBD 22 Tuntable, Marantz PM6004 amplifier,MarantzCD6004 CD player, Marantz NA7004 Tuner & streamer and Q Acoustics 2500i floorstanders (which are just getting to be run in).

 

[PAULCHRISTOPHER]

Sorry my signature has not come through. My system comprises Technics SLBD 22 Tuntable, Marantz PM6004 amplifier,MarantzCD6004 CD player, Marantz NA7004 Tuner & streamer and Q Acoustics 2500i floorstanders (which are just getting to be run in).

 

[BronC]

Disagree 100%

I have tried 2 blind tests and could hear differences. Not all speaker wire sound the same on all equipment

Try yourself and be the judge

 

[BronC]

Disagree 100%

I have tried 2 blind tests and could hear differences. Not all speaker wire sound the same on all equipment

Try yourself and be the judge

 

[PAULCHRISTOPHER]

Sorry my signature has not come through. My system comprises Technics SLBD 22 Tuntable, Marantz PM6004 amplifier,MarantzCD6004 CD player, Marantz NA7004 Tuner & streamer and Q Acoustics 2500i floorstanders (which are just getting to be run in).

 

[Mickfromdenmark]

I dont need nay sayers, i have heard my setup with nordost the frey and the sound was indsanely good and my speakers are very good. So only advices towards good cables please.

 

[iceman16]

I would suggest Tellurium Q black

 

[acalex]

I have tried Siltech, Atlas, Cardas, Kimber, Tellurium Q, Vertere and Purist Audio, in the end each one had a different sonic signature and it is really system dependant. My pick was Purist Audio in the end but I think Tellurium Q Blue or Black might be an easy choice for that budget

 

[altruistic.lemon]

Mickfromdenmark, hi, and you're lucky living in one of the nicest countries on the planet. Cr*p weather, but!

Anyway, have a look here: http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/why-some-speaker-cables-sound-different-in-laymans-terms?page=17 and you'll see why many doubt the influence of cables.

 

[nopiano]

Mick, I fear that even in the unlikely event anyone else has heard your combination (and your speakers are very new - I heard their predecessors) they still may not share the same sound aims. I find the jet tweeter quite smooth, so a bit puzzled why you are unhappy.

I would want to consider changing cables only after mounting your new speakers on proper stands, as I take it they are currently on top of other speakers. You might try angling yours more or less, so you are off axis.. You might try connecting the terminals of he Dynaudios together, to "short" them out, as this will limit cone movements. Otherwise they might be singing along!

Do try this before wasting money on more cables...

 

[Mickfromdenmark]

Mick, I fear that even in the unlikely event anyone else has heard your combination (and your speakers are very new - I heard their predecessors) they still may not share the same sound aims. I find the jet tweeter quite smooth, so a bit puzzled why you are unhappy.

I would want to consider changing cables only after mounting your new speakers on proper stands, as I take it they are currently on top of other speakers. You might try angling yours more or less, so you are off axis.. You might try connecting the terminals of he Dynaudios together, to "short" them out, as this will limit cone movements. Otherwise they might be singing along!

Do try this before wasting money on more cables...

i use Dynaudio 3 stands as written in my first post and yes they do sound very i want a cable thay grants better perspective and more dynamic bass

 

[Captain Duff]

But Mick, how can a length of wire add extra bass?

 

[nopiano]

i use Dynaudio 3 stands as written in my first post and yes they do sound very i want a cable thay grants better perspective and more dynamic bass

Apologies, I didn't read it as speaker "stands" - and when I googled Dynaudio 3 I only got speakers. Hence I imagined you were using those as stands! Do try tweaking the toe-in though.

If that is no help, then I'd suggest a trial purchase from someone who ofers home listening. Does Russ Andrews export to Denmark?

http://www.russandrews.com

Something like Kimber 4TC might do the trick.

 

[Mickfromdenmark]

i use Dynaudio 3 stands as written in my first post and yes they do sound very i want a cable thay grants better perspective and more dynamic bass

Apologies, I didn't read it as speaker "stands" - and when I googled Dynaudio 3 I only got speakers. Hence I imagined you were using those as stands! Do try tweaking the toe-in though.

If that is no help, then I'd suggest a trial purchase from someone who ofers home listening. Does Russ Andrews export to Denmark?

http://www.russandrews.com

Something like Kimber 4TC might do the trick.

Yes i can buy those kimber cables here in Denmark so i will call and ask for a demo set for a trial at home other recommendations are still welcome, and no im am not looking for more bass i just want the extra performance i know i can squeeze out my system to the nay sayers, you can just stick to the common electric cables .... :?

 

[Singslinger]

Hi Mick, if you liked the improvement in your system with Nordost cables, then maybe go for that, or if too expensive, perhaps check the secondhand market?

 

[ellisdj]

If you want to squeeze more performance out - treat your room, then make changes like cables.

Dont have to go mad with the treatment - behind head, side walls in the right spots and you will hear your system like never before!!