John Duncan
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If you wouldn't mind. kthxbai...chebby said:John Duncan said:I'm not seeing much here to trouble the moderators, FYI.
Sorry.
I'll try to do better.
If you wouldn't mind. kthxbai...chebby said:John Duncan said:I'm not seeing much here to trouble the moderators, FYI.
Sorry.
I'll try to do better.
cheeseboy said:ellisdj said:Chord company recently did demos of their usb and network cables I believe showing people in a demo scenario the differences of the cables
Ellis - this is only a comment on the chord company, nothing about what you have said, but chord have had their knuckles wrapped already by the ASA, so excuse me if I don't believe anything they say.
https://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2014/11/The-Chord-Company-Ltd/SHP_ADJ_274211.aspx#.VZENI0Zfik4
ellisdj said:I agree on your comment - rare one for us to agree first time ever I think
rjbell said:If you have endless budget then hey ho but partically for budget systems there money could be much better spent on speakers than cables in my opinion. If fact i don't buy into the 30% source 30% amp 30% speaker and 10% cables advice i hear so often. At the budget end, pushing the boat out on the speakers make a bigger impact.
ellisdj said:cheeseboy said:ellisdj said:Chord company recently did demos of their usb and network cables I believe showing people in a demo scenario the differences of the cables
Ellis - this is only a comment on the chord company, nothing about what you have said, but chord have had their knuckles wrapped already by the ASA, so excuse me if I don't believe anything they say.
https://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2014/11/The-Chord-Company-Ltd/SHP_ADJ_274211.aspx#.VZENI0Zfik4
I agree on your comment - rare one for us to agree first time ever I think
However I respect a company willing to say here come and listen for yourself and let us show you because its big potential to be shot down. Its an extremely difficult siutaiton to get right for multiple people as well so its ballsy.
I am sure they were doing it at Bristol this year - but I am also sure I saw an invitaiton type advert to go to a delaer for something similar.
Has anyone been and what were your thoughts?
ellisdj said:However I am very happy with the placebo improvements made to my system and that is all that matter to me
MickyBlue said:i had fallen into the usb trap and bought a tellurium black usb, i also had a chord usb silver plus lying about so did some comparisons, there was absolutely no difference apart from a serious lack of tenners in my wallet.
bigboss said:I visited the Chord demo twice (on different occasions at the Bristol show). I think they had 4 headphones with different cables. I tried really hard, but could not appreciate any difference. I made sure to match the volume.
steve_1979 said:bigboss said:I visited the Chord demo twice (on different occasions at the Bristol show). I think they had 4 headphones with different cables. I tried really hard, but could not appreciate any difference. I made sure to match the volume.
I'm using a cheap thin replacement headphone cable which is ment for one of Sennheiser's budget headphone models on my HD700's because I wanted a cable with a 3.5mm plug instead of the standard 1/4". It sounds identical to the thicker more expensive audiophile one that comes as standard with the HD700.
MajorFubar said:steve_1979 said:bigboss said:I visited the Chord demo twice (on different occasions at the Bristol show). I think they had 4 headphones with different cables. I tried really hard, but could not appreciate any difference. I made sure to match the volume.
I'm using a cheap thin replacement headphone cable which is ment for one of Sennheiser's budget headphone models on my HD700's because I wanted a cable with a 3.5mm plug instead of the standard 1/4". It sounds identical to the thicker more expensive audiophile one that comes as standard with the HD700.
That's an interesting one (no, seriously). I use ATM50X headphones in my home studio. They come with three different cables but none of them is an 'iOS' cable with built-in controls and a mike. So even though tbh I couldn't see me really going out-and-about with some M50X headphones on my head at my age because I'd look like a fat ageing cyberman, I bought a cheap aftermarket cable from China with a built-in mike and controls. You know what? It sounds bloody rubbish. You have to turn up the volume on the iPhone 5S by at two notches to get the same level of volume and the clarity is diminished. Yeah I know, it surprised me too. Not because I don't believe there are differences between analogue cables but because I didn't really expect to notice anything on a six foot headphone lead. Just goes to show! :-D
bigboss said:ellisdj said:cheeseboy said:ellisdj said:Chord company recently did demos of their usb and network cables I believe showing people in a demo scenario the differences of the cables
Ellis - this is only a comment on the chord company, nothing about what you have said, but chord have had their knuckles wrapped already by the ASA, so excuse me if I don't believe anything they say.
https://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2014/11/The-Chord-Company-Ltd/SHP_ADJ_274211.aspx#.VZENI0Zfik4
I agree on your comment - rare one for us to agree first time ever I think
However I respect a company willing to say here come and listen for yourself and let us show you because its big potential to be shot down. Its an extremely difficult siutaiton to get right for multiple people as well so its ballsy.
I am sure they were doing it at Bristol this year - but I am also sure I saw an invitaiton type advert to go to a delaer for something similar.
Has anyone been and what were your thoughts?
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I visited the Chord demo twice (on different occasions at the Bristol show). I think they had 4 headphones with different cables. I tried really hard, but could not appreciate any difference. I made sure to match the volume.
Yes they did.ellisdj said:I thought I saw they were doing proper demos where you had to book a place maybe I got it wrong.
lol don't worry I knew what you meant.steve_1979 said:The absence of an edit button on this forum is really starting to get on my tits now!
David@FrankHarvey said:Yes they did.ellisdj said:I thought I saw they were doing proper demos where you had to book a place maybe I got it wrong.
ellisdj said:bigboss said:ellisdj said:cheeseboy said:ellisdj said:Chord company recently did demos of their usb and network cables I believe showing people in a demo scenario the differences of the cables
Ellis - this is only a comment on the chord company, nothing about what you have said, but chord have had their knuckles wrapped already by the ASA, so excuse me if I don't believe anything they say.
https://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2014/11/The-Chord-Company-Ltd/SHP_ADJ_274211.aspx#.VZENI0Zfik4
I agree on your comment - rare one for us to agree first time ever I think
However I respect a company willing to say here come and listen for yourself and let us show you because its big potential to be shot down. Its an extremely difficult siutaiton to get right for multiple people as well so its ballsy.
I am sure they were doing it at Bristol this year - but I am also sure I saw an invitaiton type advert to go to a delaer for something similar.
Has anyone been and what were your thoughts?
I visited the Chord demo twice (on different occasions at the Bristol show). I think they had 4 headphones with different cables. I tried really hard, but could not appreciate any difference. I made sure to match the volume.
Was that their foyer stool BB or their demo room? I didn't go to either?
I thought I saw they were doing proper demos where you had to book a place maybe I got it wrong.
spooks1982 said:Oddly I had basically the same discussion/argument with the guys over on the naim forum but it was related to network cables. My argument was that, so long as the cable is made properly there will be no difference between a regular network cable and a special audio network cable.
The guys on the naim forum, some of whom were quite learned went to extreme lengths to explain about RFI and EMI to prove that these audio network cables transmit less interference into the DAC and thus provide a better sound once converted into Analogue. I still thing its hogwash but here is the link to the thread - makes interesting reading.
Interested to know what people think!
http://forums.naimaudio.com/topic/gs108-switch-ports-1?page=1
spooks1982 said:Oddly I had basically the same discussion/argument with the guys over on the naim forum but it was related to network cables. My argument was that, so long as the cable is made properly there will be no difference between a regular network cable and a special audio network cable.
The guys on the naim forum, some of whom were quite learned went to extreme lengths to explain about RFI and EMI to prove that these audio network cables transmit less interference into the DAC and thus provide a better sound once converted into Analogue. I still thing its hogwash but here is the link to the thread - makes interesting reading.
Interested to know what people think!
http://forums.naimaudio.com/topic/gs108-switch-ports-1?page=1
ellisdj said:Some of the best interconnects ever made are not screened at all - so its not ALL about the screen.
In fact some companies say metal anywhere near the main conductors is counter productice to SQ.