TV Shootout: Panasonic CZ950, LG EF950V OLED, ZT Plasma

[Son_of_SJ]

I'm booked on!

If you can report back on here afterwards, with as much detail as possible, that would be good, Series 1 boy! In particular I'm interested to see how the 60ZT65 on display compares with your calibrated 50VT65, especially as you had been considering getting a ZT.

 

[Series1boy]

Funny you should mention the ZT. I did see this tv at the first shootout and I thought it was better than the oled, not having a dig Gel . It was very good and if memory serves me, I'm not sure there was any significant difference with my VT. That said, we were in a darkened auditorium and a few people on this forum have said the main improvements with the ZT was in day light conditions.

My main reasons for going is to look at the OLEDS, in particularly the Panasonic to see if the 8k price tag is worth it and also if there is a big difference with the latest OLEDS and the last reference plasma, the ZT.

I will report back, but I'm not promising a report as detailed as BB did; he's very at good at this...

 

[Son_of_SJ]

My main reasons for going is to look at the OLEDS, in particularly the Panasonic to see if the 8k price tag is worth it and also if there is a big difference with the latest OLEDS and the last reference plasma, the ZT.

The answer to the phrase that I've highlighted seems, according to both Steve Kemp (Bumtious) and Steve Withers, to be NO. Listen to minutes 53 to 63 of this podcast https://www.avforums.com/threads/avforums-podcast-21st-october-2015.1987701/ and then listen from minute 20 to minute 32 of this podcast https://www.avforums.com/threads/avforums-podcast-28th-october-2015.1989042/. And the LG EF950V OLED is flat, which is a big plus for me, and for many folk.

I will report back, but I'm not promising a report as detailed as BB did; he's very at good at this...

Hey, don't you be unintentionally dissing me, I think you'll find that I also wrote a pretty damn good report after visiting bigboss in April or May this year! *blum3*

 

[Series1boy]

Hey, don't you be unintentionally dissing me, I think you'll find that I also wrote a pretty damn good report after visiting bigboss in April or May this year! *blum3*

yes you are very good too...*mail1*

 

[bigboss]

 

[tele1962]

Unfortunately AVForums consider HDTVtest some sort of threat to their reviews so frown upon any links or mention of said site (don't i know it). I know that is a little childish but there we are........the British AV press seem to take this stance where £ signs are involved and AVF has become IMO one of the very worst, it's a case of our reviews or nothing (even if we get it wrong). The WWW used to mean the abuility to share information............however profit got in the way for some.

So i would if you can go along to this event and see first hand how these TV's perform.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Unfortunately AVForums consider HDTVtest some sort of threat to their reviews so frown upon any links or mention of said site (don't i know it). I know that is a little childish but there we are........the British AV press seem to take this stance where £ signs are involved and AVF has become IMO one of the very worst, it's a case of our reviews or nothing (even if we get it wrong). The WWW used to mean the abuility to share information............however profit got in the way for some.

So i would if you can go along to this event and see first hand how these TV's perform.

Perhaps it's the strange outcome of results at your shootouts! OLED is clearly better in every area than plasma except motion:

https://www.avforums.com/review/lg-ea980-55ea980-curved-1080p-oled-tv-review.9969

How you think plasma is better than OLED is crazy! So no wonder they don't think much to you.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Here too they would pick an OLED over the Samsung 8500 plasma and Panasonic vt65 every day of the week:

http://www.cnet.com/uk/products/lg-55ea980v/

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Here too they would pick an OLED over the Samsung 8500 plasma and Panasonic vt65 every day of the week:

http://www.cnet.com/uk/products/lg-55ea980v/

 

[tele1962]

Not my Shootouts i have nothing to do with them, but at that time the results stood for themselves. Your generalising the tech, no one said that one tech is better than the other, just early OLED's had problems with colour accuracy etc that the likes of the ZT did not. I believe those problems are being/have been overcome.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Unfortunately AVForums consider HDTVtest some sort of threat to their reviews so frown upon any links or mention of said site (don't i know it). I know that is a little childish but there we are........the British AV press seem to take this stance where £ signs are involved and AVF has become IMO one of the very worst, it's a case of our reviews or nothing (even if we get it wrong). The WWW used to mean the abuility to share information............however profit got in the way for some.

So i would if you can go along to this event and see first hand how these TV's perform.

Perhaps it's the strange outcome of results at your shootouts! OLED is clearly better in every area than plasma except motion:

https://www.avforums.com/review/lg-ea980-55ea980-curved-1080p-oled-tv-review.9969

How you think plasma is better than OLED is crazy! So no wonder they don't think much to you.

Colour accuracy gets 9 out of 10 and greyscale gets 10 out of 10, it seems you might have had a faulty OLED.

And OLEDs have got worse not better. Tint problems, not such good reviews as the first one.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

I just had a look at the Panasonic 60zt65 review on AV Forums and colour accuracy is 10 out of 10 and greyscale 10 out of 10, so you might have a point on colour accuracy but that still doesn't change the fact that AVForums said and so do I that OLED is better than plasma.

https://www.avforums.com/review/panasonic-zt65-zt60-tx-p60zt65-3d-plasma-tv-review.520

 

[Deleted member 2457]

I just had a look at the Panasonic 60zt65 review on AV Forums and colour accuracy is 10 out of 10 and greyscale 10 out of 10, so you might have a point on colour accuracy but that still doesn't change the fact that AVForums said and so do I that OLED is better than plasma.

https://www.avforums.com/review/panasonic-zt65-zt60-tx-p60zt65-3d-plasma...

 

[bigboss]

Let's wait for the shootout gel. What's the point of coming to conclusions before the event?

 

[spiny norman]

You'd think this is just the sort of shootout WHSV should be doing: after all, they have the facilities and the contacts, given all the TVs they review, seem keen to get 'user reviews'. and clearly there are enough people here interested?

 

[Son_of_SJ]

Bigboss, for some reason (buried in a traumatic childhood event no doubt) gel finds it necessary to keep on telling us that OLED is better than plasma, about at least every fortnight, both here and on AVForums. Even Steve Withers couldn't understand why gel keeps on belittling a technology that has now been dead for two years. I don't know why gel keeps on banging on about OLED being better than plasma, but lordy, it is tiresome.

 

[ellisdj]

Panny ZT has disadvantage in the shootout depending on if the 4k tvs upscale to 4k

It's a good test though of how tech has moved on and how old tech still hold its own or not

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Let's wait for the shootout gel. What's the point of coming to conclusions before the event?

No I was talking about the last event.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Bigboss, for some reason (buried in a traumatic childhood event no doubt) gel finds it necessary to keep on telling us that OLED is better than plasma, about at least every fortnight, both here and on AVForums. Even Steve Withers couldn't understand why gel keeps on belittling a technology that has now been dead for two years. I don't know why gel keeps on banging on about OLED being better than plasma, but lordy, it is tiresome.

Thats because numpties like you keep saying plasma is still better than OLED all the time, I am just stating the obvious what's wrong with that? You keep saying plasma is better Steve Withers doesn't understand that either! So what have you got to say about that then? *smile*

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Panny ZT has disadvantage in the shootout depending on if the 4k tvs upscale to 4k

It's a good test though of how tech has moved on and how old tech still hold its own or not

According to the new reviews OLED have failed behind in 2D.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Look the new flat LG OLED 65ef only gets 1 ten out of 10 the rest of the results are behind:

https://www.avforums.com/review/lg-65ef950v-ef950-ef9500-ultra-hd-4k-oled-tv-review.12014

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Look the new flat LG OLED 65ef only gets 1 ten out of 10 the rest of the results are behind:

https://www.avforums.com/review/lg-65ef950v-ef950-ef9500-ultra-hd-4k-ole...

So no doubt in your shootout you are going to bang on about colour accuracy on the ZT65 being better than the flat LG?

 

[Deleted member 2457]

And screen uniformity has got worse on the new OLEDs I wonder if you will mention that at your shootout?

 

[tele1962]

Gel mate i am not 100% sure where you are coming from with your posts. But maybe try to get along to Leeds, i think it will be a great experence and i believe David M is coming over to help out.*smile*

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Gel mate i am not 100% sure where you are coming from with your posts. But maybe try to get along to Leeds, i think it will be a great experence and i believe David M is coming over to help out.*smile*

Okay cool buddy, thanks for the invitation. I will see if I can get someone to join me. Cheers!

Just confusing when one website says it's better and another it not.