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Your local multiplex perhaps screens a more diverse section of films than mine. Whenever I look at listings it feels like management have gone out of their way to pick films I have zero interest in watching.

Luckily there's an independent cinema nearby.

Not really, though we do get the occasional reasonable film.

We haven't got an Indie either, but I've just discovered that the gallery in MK does show films occasionally on a Friday night, which is where I saw Muscle Shoals. It's not much, just a screen, a couple of speakers, 2 sofas, 16 chairs, and a small bar, but atleast it's a small step towards something decent.
 

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I saw Gravity and thought it was terrific. Re: the ending, there were only going to be two choices weren't there - she lives or dies. Either would have been acceptable, IMO. But still, it's the most visually arresting film I have seen in a very long time, and I spent much of it thinking "how the hell did they do THAT?!?!?". I too thought that the 3D went a bit skee-wiff towards the end, but this was my only experience of iMAX outside the Air and Space museum in Washington (a.maz.ing.) and I still found it very immersive. The sound quality was also way above par.

Are we ready to watch Tzameti yet? EDIT - just seen previous replies, will watch it next.
 
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There were so many improbable (if not impossible) happenings, I seriously thought she was going to land in her own back garden instead of 10 metres from shore.

Visually decent, but blo*dy hell, let's have a hint of realism.
 

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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW said:
There were so many improbable (if not impossible) happenings, I seriously thought she was going to land in her own back garden instead of 10 metres from shore.

Visually decent, but blo*dy hell, let's have a hint of realism.

What if she actually is dead? Discuss.
 

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There's honestly not much to spoil. (That's not a criticism.)

It's possible to read ending as you suggest, JD. It's unfortunately impossible to say any more without mild spoilers.

Either way, I thought it was a good thriller; but unlike the best science fiction there was little in terms of character depth or existential commentary.

Sure, it looked good;* and it was fairly suspenseful at times, but it's not a film I'd feel compelled to revisit.

* I presume it looked good in most cinemas; though the crosstalk was horrendous when I saw the film, which really frustrated me.
 

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[CONTAINS GRAVITY SPOILERS]

Well, BBB is right about the implausibility of much of it. None of it is impossible (apart from, as I understand it, Sandra Bullock's ability to get out of a space suit in 10 seconds flat), but the characters are blessed with exceptionally good luck. I do think that it's possible that she died towards the end, given that she does hallucinate...something...through lack of oxygen, and it's possible that what happens thereafter is just made up à la Lost. Her dragging herself from the primordial swamp to stand erect at the end (awooga! awooga! 2001 allusion!) hints at this if you care to take it that way, though the director has insisted that that was not his intention.
 
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I get your point that the end could have been an hallucination, but I just don't think the film was that clever.
 
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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW said:
I get your point that the end could have been an hallucination, but I just don't think the film was that clever.

Well the plot was quite simple tbh. But the film *making* was incredibly clever, IMO.

There were obviously clever people involved in the making of this film, the director and the writer were not among them.

When the film ended, I actually thought to myself that it wasn't such a bad film, but then I actually started to think about it, and the more I thought about it, the worse it got.

If there was any possibility that she could have survived, I may have thought it was a good film, but I can think of atleast 4 occasions during the film that she would have undoubtedly been killed, or been sent spinning out in space a la Clooney, therefore the possibility of the dream ending means nothing to me, she would have been dead way before anyway.
 

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John Duncan said:
dragging herself from the primordial swamp to stand erect at the end (awooga! awooga! 2001 allusion!) hints at this if you care to take it that way, though the director has insisted that that was not his intention.

You can interpret the film any way you like. There's nothing stopping you from reading the film that way.

I worked my way through the special features on the Invasion of the Body Snatchers Blu-ray (the Kaufman-Sutherland version) and enjoyed Ben Wheatley's take on the film's ending.

Wheatley pointed out that Sutherland could still be human, but had become so good at imitating pod people that he saw Veronica Cartright as a liability. I'm sure the filmmakers didn't have this in mind; though it makes for a more entertaining denouement.

We should never look to the director as a source of absolute authority; and as readers we play an important role in constructing films' meanings.
 
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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW said:
There were obviously clever people involved in the making of this film

If by clever we mean technically innovative, I agree entirely.

I did, though I don't have your vocabulary. :)
 
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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW said:
I don't have your vocabulary. :)

I wasn't suggesting that.

I've been nowhere near my most pretentious on this thread so far. Wait until we start discussing Mulholland Drive!

That'll be in January won't it? I have a feeling I'm on holiday then. :grin:
 
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