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[strapped for cash]

this gave no explanation regarding Vinnie Jones - he has changed, but what has he accepted? The only thing that I could think of was that someone could have no function in life.

Or was Vinnie a mediator (translator), forcing characters to confront their true (repressed) selves?

I don't understand the closing portion with the murdered being flown around by the birdman.

Does the film suggest uxoricide isn't so bad, because you'll get over it eventually (you will survive)?

I'd argue that this is one possible reading.

 

[Hi-FiOutlaw]

I have enjoyed reading everyones analyses of the film. On Wednesday night I started mentally analysing the film, but I never realised about the Freudian interpretation, until I read SFCs comments.

After my first viewing I thought that maybe the common thread was the changes in the characters lives. Then I read a review that said that the common thread was about acceptance:

1 - the man finally accepts that he has killed his wife

2 - the ad executive finally accepts that her ad ideas are crap

3 - the lad finally accepts that his father will always be a bird

4 - the one burglers acceptance that he is gay

But this gave no explanation regarding Vinnie Jones - he has changed, but what has he accepted? The only thing that I could think of was that someone could have no function in life.

I also have some questions about the filmcraft:

1 - After both viewings, I had the unanswered question - why did the man want to murder such a beautiful wife in the first place? Does anyone else think that it would have helped the film, to have a short introductory section explaining the murder (maybe them having a row, or whatever)?

2 - I could never understand why we needed to see the dancing rabbit in the hypnotism show - I do not think that the rabbit added anything to the film.

3 - Why did the ad executive need to have her moment of realisation that her ideas were crap, in such a sudden manner? If felt as though it was a forced sudden ending, because the budget had run out, or the director knew that the film was too long, or the writer had run out of ideas. All the other characters were allowed a gradual realisation of acceptance.

4 - I don't understand the closing portion with the murdered being flown around by the birdman. Is it an analogy for the murderer has committed suicide, and is being flown to heaven?

5 - I was puzzled by the schoolgirls in the cafe, talking about being injured by birds - what was that about?

6 - I also wondered if the murderer was intended to be the anti-hero, but that left the question about why then kill him at the end of the film.

Sorry that there are more questions here, than answers, but hopefully it will help continue the discussion.

I think your review is spot on, i've reply to one post of SFC by saing the review didn't need to be so deep in interpretation.

Until now, and IMO, you give me the most logic interpretation of the movie!

I didn't manage to come out with an answer why the ad maker stop running!
I do wonder why the schoolgirl is injured by a bird... Can the bird be the hypnotized father...?

 

[BenLaw]

If you're jumping ahead of yourself, then I really am, but one of my next suggestions may well be a 60 year old film.

I'm now thinking "What films were released in 1953?" The answer is of course many, so we'll have to wait for your next round. (Perhaps you meant 1954, since it'll be 2014 when you next post suggestions.)

You should definitely watch The Third Man.

Do you have Third Man on blu ray strapped? If so and assuming it isn't the Criterion version, what is PQ like?

 

[BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW]

Le Quattro Volte

These are the cheapest prices I could find.

Blu Ray http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B005C3DPPM/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

DVD http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0051ZH8P4/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

 

[BenLaw]

Yeah I just ordered the £5.55 plus postage one, quite a saving on elsewhere and IMO a good price for a small release film.

 

[BenLaw]

Doppel post.

 

[BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW]

If you're jumping ahead of yourself, then I really am, but one of my next suggestions may well be a 60 year old film.

I'm now thinking "What films were released in 1953?" The answer is of course many, so we'll have to wait for your next round. (Perhaps you meant 1954, since it'll be 2014 when you next post suggestions.

Or I was guessing it's age, and got it badly wrong,

It will be one from 2, one from 1961, and one from 1964. Both are awesome, and nothing like SS5+ apart from the country of origin.

No guessing.

 

[BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW]

Yeah I just ordered the £5.55 plus postage one, quite a saving on elsewhere and IMO a good price for a small release film.

Me too. I thought, Blu ray makes sense if I want to keep it.

 

[strapped for cash]

It will be one from 2, one from 1961, and one from 1964.

No guessing.

I can think of one famous contender from 1961, but I'll keep it zipped. I could be completely wrong, of course.

 

[strapped for cash]

Do you have Third Man on blu ray strapped? If so and assuming it isn't the Criterion version, what is PQ like?

Unfortunately I don't have a Region A Blu-ray player and the £100+ for the Criterion disc, which I'm sure is superior to the Studio Canal release.

I own the latter. It's a worthwhile upgrade over the DVD. I often buy Blu-ray releases simply to avoid PAL speed-up.

 

[BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW]

It will be one from 2, one from 1961, and one from 1964.

No guessing.

I can think of one famous contender from 1961, but I'll keep it zipped. I could be completely wrong, of course.

Well, I did a little research in to Japanese films from both years, and if you do, it becomes blatantly obvious which films I'm considering.

Both corkers though. I'll definitely choose one for my 3 options though, as everybody should see these films.

 

[strapped for cash]

Well, I did a little research in to Japanese films from both years, and if you do, it becomes blatantly obvious which films I'm considering.

Both corkers

Mothra and Mothra vs. Godzilla should really be watched back-to-back.

 

[BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW]

Well, I did a little research in to Japanese films from both years, and if you do, it becomes blatantly obvious which films I'm considering.

Both corkers

Mothra and Mothra vs. Godzilla should really be watched back-to-back.

You bugg*r!

 

[Hi-FiOutlaw]

Le Quattro Volte

These are the cheapest prices I could find.

Blu Ray http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B005C3DPPM/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

DVD http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0051ZH8P4/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

I've already bought one copy as well!

Thanks BBB

:cheers:

 

[BenLaw]

Do you have Third Man on blu ray strapped? If so and assuming it isn't the Criterion version, what is PQ like?

Unfortunately I don't have a Region A Blu-ray player and the £100+ for the Criterion disc, which I'm sure is superior to the Studio Canal release.

I own the latter. It's a worthwhile upgrade over the DVD. I often buy Blu-ray releases simply to avoid PAL speed-up.

You could mod your BDP but I didn't think you had. I'm even further away than you from watching the Criterion version. Its existence has put me off getting the Studio Canal version but I think I should just get it, it doesn't make any sense to be stuck with the DVD.

 

[BenLaw]

Well, I did a little research in to Japanese films from both years, and if you do, it becomes blatantly obvious which films I'm considering.

Both corkers

Mothra and Mothra vs. Godzilla should really be watched back-to-back.

You bugg*r!

I thought it was Invasion of the Neptune Men.

 

[BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW]

You're both b*stards!!!!

Back to the drawing board.

 

[strapped for cash]

You could mod your BDP but I didn't think you had. I'm even further away than you from watching the Criterion version. Its existence has put me off getting the Studio Canal version but I think I should just get it, it doesn't make any sense to be stuck with the DVD.

I refuse to pay over £100 for a single film, no matter how good it is.

I paid £70 for the limited edition Twilight Time Fright Night Blu-ray. I'm glad I own it, especially for the lossless isolated score, but it was an absurd extravagance.

I like Fright Night, largely for nostalgic reasons, but it's no horror masterpiece, as some cult fans insist. I think that's the most I've ever spent on a single Blu-ray.

 

[strapped for cash]

You're both b*stards!!!!

Back to the drawing board.

Sonny Chiba fans might enjoy Invasion of the Neptune Men. I think film club rules permit selection of foreign language cult favourites.

 

[strapped for cash]

The Le Quattro Volte Blu-ray has sat neatly on my living room table for a couple of days, so I thought I'd check whether other members managed to obtain a copy.

I decided to hold off on watching the film until others have done so; that way I might remember more when we get round to discussion. Perhaps we should agree on a specific weekend when everyone can watch the film?

 

[BenLaw]

Mine arrived today, so ready when everyone else is.

 

[BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW]

We could try Strapped, but I doubt it would be possible, plus I have to be in the mood for certain types of film, so I'd probably rather not.

I'm away from home until Friday evening, so no idea if the film's been delivered yet. Will report in to the wife later and ask her.

 

[Hi-FiOutlaw]

My copy arrived today as well!

I'm gessing that this one will be seen in quattro volte... :shifty:

 

[expat_mike]

My copy is in the post, but the estimated delivery date is 26th Oct - so please wait a bit longer before watching the film.

 

[BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW]

My film has arrived, so will try to watch this, or next weekend.