Always wanted a set of floor standers for my system ( but on a limited budget ) and now have the chance to buy either a second hand pair of rtl3 se's or a new pair of f4's for around the same money (£165-00) . I've read some reviews and they both seem to be rated about the same.People who own tdl's seem to love the strong bass , the four star rating from the what hifi review seems too suggest that the f4's could perform at about the same level . Any advice would be appreciated or alternatives , and any advice on amps as i've heard that the rtl's perform better with 60+ amps (currently using NAD ) , remembering that on a tight budget ( credit crunch , nagging missus etc. etc.), many thanks.