Speaker wire for Monitor Audio RX6 with Yamaha Z7

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Hey guys,

After reading many forums topics about the Monitor Audio Silver RX6 with the Yamaha Z7, I decided to be bold. Lash out and grab them both for an absoulte bargin, along side the RXLCR and RXFX.

This system will be primarily for watching movies, with some music at times. I'm just after a few opinions on good wiring to match this kit for the full theatre experience.

Bi-Amping the fronts. 5 needed, budget around 15 pounds p/m

Centre, 2 m needed. 15 pounds p/m

Rears, 20 m needed, around the 5 pound mark.

Thanks in advanced.

 

[kevinJ]

Why do you want to bi-amp the front speakers?

 

[Anonymous]

I'll be running a 5.1 system. Why not use the other 2 outputs on the receiver?

 

[Frank Harvey]

It might be a tad over your budget, but I'd go for the Odyssey 4 (4 core) - £36 per metre but you'd only need one length to bi-wire/bi-amp a speaker. The Odyssey 2 (2 core) is all you'd need to wire the centre speaker at £18 per metre.

 

[kevinJ]

Using two outputs doesn't make much difference. I've tried it too. The transformer inside a receiver isn't powerfull enough to actualy deliver more power when you connect 2 amps per speaker. Keep it simple, just use one amp per speaker, and use the money you save to buy better quality speakercable for the fronts and centre.

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the advice David, That is a smidgen over budget, unless i can get a great deal. So are The Chord Company cables in general a great match for my equipment? How do you think the Rumour 4 would sound? This again is a bit of a budget stretch, but one that is probably manageable. Should i even be considering somthing more entry level like the Carnival Silver?

 

[Anonymous]

Hmm, Thanks Kevin. This is something i think i will consider.

 

[Frank Harvey]

Originally, before reading your budget, I would've recommended the Carnival Silver Screen as being ideal, but we find in our hi-fi demo room that the Odyssey just sounds so much better - easier on the ear and far more open. As suggested, you could just single wire everything and use Odyssey 2 all round - I'd rather do that than bi-wire with Carnival Silver Plus.

 

[Anonymous]

OK Carnival Silver Plus is out of the equation. Do you think Odyssey 2 all round would be a sonic winner over Rumor 4 bi amp . Odyssey 2 centre? Im guessing its a good idea to keep your cables the same throughout the front speakers.?

 

[Frank Harvey]

If you feel that bi-amping your front pair gives you better music, then I'd go with a 4 core cable, but those benefits need to be weighed up against having a better quality 2 core cable without the bi-amping.

 

[Anonymous]

Haha, well the only way I can weigh up the difference is if I had the option of comparing the two. Which i don't. Thanks for your help David.

 

[MUSICRAFT]

Prime Cuts:
Hey guys,

After reading many forums topics about the Monitor Audio Silver RX6 with the Yamaha Z7, I decided to be bold. Lash out and grab them both for an absoulte bargin, along side the RXLCR and RXFX.

This system will be primarily for watching movies, with some music at times. I'm just after a few opinions on good wiring to match this kit for the full theatre experience.

Bi-Amping the fronts. 5 needed, budget around 15 pounds p/m

Centre, 2 m needed. 15 pounds p/m

Rears, 20 m needed, around the 5 pound mark.

Thanks in advanced.

Hi Prime Cuts

You may be intetested to know that i mostly use/sell a generic cable which is very modestly priced at around £3/m. I have sold this cable with (as i far as i recall) all the DSP-Z7/Silver RX combination sold. The generic cable is good enough that i also use it in the shop with DSP-Z11, Monitor Audio's Platinum, Chord Electronics SPM3005/DSP8000 etc. The cable works a treat and therefore i will suggest that you also look the possibility of using a generic speaker cable as it could save you quite a bit of money.

Thanks

Rick @ Musicraft

 

[Gerrardasnails]

FrankHarveyHiFi:
If you feel that bi-amping your front pair gives you better music, then I'd go with a 4 core cable, but those benefits need to be weighed up against having a better quality 2 core cable without the bi-amping.

I agree. I use the Odyssey 4 on my RS6s and RS centre - great cable and you can get bargains on eBay.

 

[Frank Harvey]

Because of what we have on display, we tend to use the Odyssey for most demos, and the few times we've changed it for the Carnival Silver Screen, or even Rumour, there's been a noticable difference in performance.

 

[Anonymous]

Hi Rick,

Thanks for your reply, unfortunatly I have order my gear from interstate, there is nowhere around here where i can audtion the RX Silvers. Saving money using generic cable might get me that little bit closer to affording the RXW-12.

Thanks Gerrardasnails, I will have a look on ebay for some cheaper Odyssey Cable.

Hey David, you would obviously use terminated wires in shop. Do you think its necessary at home? What are your thoughts too Rick?

 

[MUSICRAFT]

Prime Cuts:
Hi Rick,

Thanks for your reply, unfortunatly I have order my gear from interstate, there is nowhere around here where i can audtion the RX Silvers. Saving money using generic cable might get me that little bit closer to affording the RXW-12.

Thanks Gerrardasnails, I will have a look on ebay for some cheaper Odyssey Cable.

Hey David, you would obviously use terminated wires in shop. Do you think its necessary at home? What are your thoughts too Rick?

Hi Prime Cuts

Your welcome and i hope you will enjoy the performance of your new components for many years to come. Yamaha AV amps + Monitor Audio speakers = great match (time after time)

I will still suggest that you look at a generic cable as you've rightly said you'll end up saving money which can be put towards the Silver RX-W12 instead. The Silver RX-W12 sub will give a far bigger return on your investment than the speaker cables will.

I mostly use and have used the generic speaker cable with components from budget to high end over the last few years. The cable is very flexible and sounds terrific. Job done and no sleep lost!

Btw, its a good idea to terminate the cable with some banana plugs.

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

 

[Frank Harvey]

Prime Cuts:Thanks Gerrardasnails, I will have a look on ebay for some cheaper Odyssey Cable.

It would also be worth checking out what a dealer can do for you as well - that way you can get the exact length you want, and the exact terminations you want, and I'm sure if the ebay sellers are genuine Chord dealers, then other Chord dealers will be able to do the same price, maybe even a little better.

Hey David, you would obviously use terminated wires in shop. Do you think its necessary at home?

You don't have to use any terminations, bare wire will perform just as well as terminated ones. The benefit with terminated cables is that it makes it far easier to unplug and plug in your amplifier, should you need to remove/move it for whatever reason. Bare wires a real pain in this situation. We terminate all our Chord cables in store with soldered Chord 4mm plugs and Chord Co shrinkwrapping - it looks much more professional than just bare wires

To add to what's been said earlier, the only reason I didn't go for the Odyssey cable is that my cable needs to travel under a door (all equipment is at the back of the room), which the Rumour 2 allows me to do, but the Odyssey is too thick. Otherwise I'd have no hesitation in changing to Odyssey.

If you don't get decent cables now, you will in the future, so just go for it. Yes, a sub will make a bigger difference if you're not currently using one, but having to replace cables at a later date is a false economy. The Odyssey will stand a few system upgrades too - it may even be the last cable you ever need.

 

[Anonymous]

I see your point about using generic cables will be a false economy. I would plan to ugrade them eventualy anyway. Obviously there is a difference in sound between using generic and high grade cables. I guess the question is, is the difference worth the extra few hundred dollars?

First I'll see what bargins and be scored on premium cables from local dealers.

Thanks for the help everyone.

 

[Anonymous]

We sure pay a premium price down here in Australia, I've found the RX6 AV12 with sub z7 and free Blu-Ray player S1900, for AU $6000.

I payed just under that for the Z7 (at %60 off RRP), and the RX6 RXLCR and RXFX, NO sub and NO free blu-ray!

Same goes for cables. the Odyssey 2 is 18 pound in the uk, which is $33 au,

RRP for Odyssey 2 is $55 au, which is 33 Pounds.

WTF

 

[Frank Harvey]

Ouch! And most people over here think they have it bad.....

Regarding using better cables, it's a case of the biggest difference is moving from basic stuff to some decent stuff in the first place. From there on, differences get smaller, but it's the small differences that sometimes makes it worth paying the extra for. I'm not advocating that more expensive cables=better sound fullstop, but merely making a recommendation based on my experiences in our demo rooms with various equipment. After being used to the Odyssey, the Carnival almost seems dull in comparison! (It's not, it just sounds that way).

When people are building their first system, I'd always recommend putting the majoriity of money into the electronics, as cables can be upgraded at a later date, but it's different for those who already have a system.

 

[Anonymous]

I wish I could get gear at UK prices! I don't think the high end market is quite as big here.

This is my first system and hopefully one i wont feel the need to upgrade on for a long time. I don't like doing things in half measure. I didn't want to have to compromise on any of the important things. I knew that if I did I would sitting at home, unhappy with what i have, wishing i lashed out and got what i wanted. This is the reason why i said *** It, and went for it all.

I think you're right saying the biggest difference is moving from basic stuff to more decent stuff. I think this applies to almost everything. If i can get a great deal on the odyssey i think I'll go with it. I mean whats 100 or 200 dollars extra when you're spending big money on everything else.

Thanks for help

 

[Frank Harvey]

Prime Cuts:I don't think the high end market is quite as big here.

I think if I lived over there, I'd have other things I'd want to be doing with my time than listening to music!!

 

[Anonymous]

Hahah, They don't all look like Jeniffer Hawkins. Only about 70% of em

 

[Anonymous]

Hoping if someone can confirm or deny if these Chord Odyssey cables look genuine

http://stores.shop.ebay.com.au/hi-fi-star-online_Speaker-Cables_W0QQ_fsubZ14090462QQ_sidZ200191042QQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em322

These are less than 1/4 of the price I would pay in Australia, RRP here is way over my budget, I would have to downgrade to Carnival Silver, or i found these generic calbes in Aus,

http://www.chromeaudio.com.au/store/speaker-cables-high-end-cables-c-81_83/silverhs-silver-speaker-cable-5m-pair-p-254

You thoughts and comments would be apreciated

Thanks